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Old 05-11-2016, 15:08
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Now that Andy Murray is world number 1 I think he is a shoe in to win it. And I will swap my vote to him, outstanding achievement and nothing to do with the Olympics
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Old 05-11-2016, 15:10
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Surely Andy Murray has wrapped up the spotty award after making history and becoming the first British player to be world number 1

WImbledon, Olympic Gold and World Number 1 nobody can beat that!
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Old 05-11-2016, 15:24
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I was going to bet on Murray last night at evens knowing he was going to get no.1, but I forgot, he was always likely to beat Raonic, now his price has totally collapsed to 1/2.
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Old 05-11-2016, 16:18
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He didn't really need anything else to win it but certainly rising to World No. 1 seals the deal. Now people can't even say he hasn't done anything new this year. He'd won Wimbledon and the Olympics before but he's never been Number 1 so the haters have nothing left to throw at him.
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Old 05-11-2016, 16:22
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Was hoping for somebody else in a highly competitive and successful Olympics year, but there isn't any disputing his inevitable victory, especially with #1 sealed.
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Old 05-11-2016, 16:28
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He didn't really need anything else to win it but certainly rising to World No. 1 seals the deal. Now people can't even say he hasn't done anything new this year. He'd won Wimbledon and the Olympics before but he's never been Number 1 so the haters have nothing left to throw at him.
He really ought to have won at least one Australian Open by now.
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Old 05-11-2016, 16:48
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Feel a bit sorry for Mo but the GBP were never going to go for him, for various reasons. Also feel bad for the various people who would have had strong claims to the title in many other years. But Murray has transformed his year from a very good one into something special - well done that man!
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Old 05-11-2016, 17:30
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Now that Andy Murray is world number 1 I think he is a shoe in to win it. And I will swap my vote to him, outstanding achievement and nothing to do with the Olympics
Have to agree, I was going to go with Farah, but Murray has to have the edge now for me.
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Old 06-11-2016, 08:00
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The winner deservedly should be someone from Rio, and that person who is best placed right now is Murray.
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Old 06-11-2016, 11:26
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The winner deservedly should be someone from Rio, and that person who is best placed right now is Murray.
You really are still banging that RIO drum aren't you ? If you seriously, SERIOUSLY, believe Murray will win it for his Rio achievements and not winning Wimbledon and getting to world number 1, then that is almost as silly as your claim that The Rock was a far greater sportsman than Muhammed Ali

Answer me this, yes or no. If Andy hadn't won in Rio would he still be odds on to win ? I'd wager my mortgage and savings he would.
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Old 06-11-2016, 11:58
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IMO, if Murray missed Rio because of injury, he'd still be a favourite. If he attended, and had a decent run, putting in visible effort, but didn't win, he'd be nominated, but people would use that as a reason he should be overlooked, and he'd get less support from the sporting media. If he'd skipped it because he mumbled something about zika, or a packed schedule, he might not have been nominated if he'd not made #1, but now it's impossible to imagine they could have overlooked him, but he'd get less general support.

However, he did go, he fought hard, he supported fellow athletes and he won. He also did other amazing things, so it's all academic. But don't forget, Murray can still lose the #1 position before the end of the year - even though he's in a very strong position to extend/regain that position in the early part of next year.
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Old 06-11-2016, 13:10
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IMO, if Murray missed Rio because of injury, he'd still be a favourite. If he attended, and had a decent run, putting in visible effort, but didn't win, he'd be nominated, but people would use that as a reason he should be overlooked, and he'd get less support from the sporting media. If he'd skipped it because he mumbled something about zika, or a packed schedule, he might not have been nominated if he'd not made #1, but now it's impossible to imagine they could have overlooked him, but he'd get less general support.

However, he did go, he fought hard, he supported fellow athletes and he won. He also did other amazing things, so it's all academic. But don't forget, Murray can still lose the #1 position before the end of the year - even though he's in a very strong position to extend/regain that position in the early part of next year.
Are you saying if Murray hadn't gone to Rio because of Zika but won Wimbledon he wouldn't be nominated ????? Of course he would and he'd be favourite
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Old 06-11-2016, 14:21
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Are you saying if Murray hadn't gone to Rio because of Zika but won Wimbledon he wouldn't be nominated ????? Of course he would and he'd be favourite
I agree but once the clips packages of what was a pretty amazing Olympics start airing, voters might well have leaned towards someone else. Andy would still be favourite but not such an overwhelming one as he currently is as refusing the chance to represent your country is likely to be considered somewhat churlish - not very appealing.

But, anyway, that's all academic - Andy will undoubtedly win and will thoroughly deserve it. Second and third are wide open though; I really don't have a clue who will be getting either of those. In fact, I'm not even sure I know who I want - every time I think of a name I would really like to see up there, another one pops into my head. It's impossible!
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Old 06-11-2016, 16:46
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Wimbledon, Olympic Gold, First ever British Number One. He has to win. In a year of incredible achievements Murray has managed to go above and beyond all of them. It wouldnt be right in someways if he didnt win.
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Old 06-11-2016, 17:27
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You really are still banging that RIO drum aren't you ? If you seriously, SERIOUSLY, believe Murray will win it for his Rio achievements and not winning Wimbledon and getting to world number 1, then that is almost as silly as your claim that The Rock was a far greater sportsman than Muhammed Ali

Answer me this, yes or no. If Andy hadn't won in Rio would he still be odds on to win ? I'd wager my mortgage and savings he would.
We are talking about the whole package, why try and take away from him an achievement that I don't think many, if any one else has done (back to back Olympic Gold)?

Why do you seemingly have a hatred of him winning, and competing over there?
It comes across as if you wished he had never been over there.
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Old 06-11-2016, 18:03
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We are talking about the whole package, why try and take away from him an achievement that I don't think many, if any one else has done (back to back Olympic Gold)?

Why do you seemingly have a hatred of him winning, and competing over there?
It comes across as if you wished he had never been over there.
I have absolutely no hatred of his Olympic win. None at all, show me where you get that from ( which you won't )

It is you who seems to belittle all he has done outside the Olympics. And you cannot argue with that.

And of course you didn't answer my question.
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Old 06-11-2016, 18:06
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Are you saying if Murray hadn't gone to Rio because of Zika but won Wimbledon he wouldn't be nominated ????? Of course he would and he'd be favourite
I'm saying that if he'd skipped it claiming Zika or scheduling, he'd have come under fire for it, which would lessen his personal reputation. People would question his national loyalty, or whether he was just another pampered athlete, more in keeping with footballers than our Olympic heroes. The fact Murray places so much importance in the Olympics and Davis Cup, arguably risking his personal career (no points for the Olympics or Davis Cup this year), is one of the reasons so many general sports fans admire him at a personal level, and it's one of the reasons sporting journalists describe him as someone to look up to.

So, IMO, if he'd skipped the Olympics, he'd have got a lot of negative press, and missed out on a lot of positive press. As I said, it would be different if he was simply injured, and everyone believed that was why he withdrew, and not just to keep himself fresh for the big money tournaments.

Regardless of how you vote, many voters want to see it go to an Olympian rather than a pampered footballer or formula one type. It's Andy's approach to the Olympics that means that despite his success and wealth, he's grouped with the noble Olympians. It may mean nothing to you, but it's a public vote, so you have to be realistic and accept that everyone votes for their own reasons, and that is important to a lot of potential voters.

Personally, I think that winning Wimbledon is still one of the biggest achievements on the global sports calendar, even in Olympic years, but I'm realistic about how the general public sees these things.
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Old 06-11-2016, 18:13
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I'm saying that if he'd skipped it claiming Zika or scheduling, he'd have come under fire for it, which would lessen his personal reputation. People would question his national loyalty, or whether he was just another pampered athlete, more in keeping with footballers than our Olympic heroes. The fact Murray places so much importance in the Olympics and Davis Cup, arguably risking his personal career (no points for the Olympics or Davis Cup this year), is one of the reasons so many general sports fans admire him at a personal level, and it's one of the reasons sporting journalists describe him as someone to look up to.

So, IMO, if he'd skipped the Olympics, he'd have got a lot of negative press, and missed out on a lot of positive press. As I said, it would be different if he was simply injured, and everyone believed that was why he withdrew, and not just to keep himself fresh for the big money tournaments.

Regardless of how you vote, many voters want to see it go to an Olympian rather than a pampered footballer or formula one type. It's Andy's approach to the Olympics that means that despite his success and wealth, he's grouped with the noble Olympians. It may mean nothing to you, but it's a public vote, so you have to be realistic and accept that everyone votes for their own reasons, and that is important to a lot of potential voters.

Personally, I think that winning Wimbledon is still one of the biggest achievements on the global sports calendar, even in Olympic years, but I'm realistic about how the general public sees these things.
and being the first brit ever to reach number 1 is quite an achievement as well
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Old 06-11-2016, 18:42
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I have absolutely no hatred of his Olympic win. None at all, show me where you get that from ( which you won't )

It is you who seems to belittle all he has done outside the Olympics. And you cannot argue with that.

And of course you didn't answer my question.
Your continued questioning regarding my overall appreciating of what a great year Andy has had, which includes the Olympic Gold medal, which you consistently are trying to say, what if he hadn't win it, we'll guess what he did, so stop trying to ask questions about if he didn't, as they are pointless.

I am not at all trying to belittle his unbelievable achievements this year, he has had the year of his life, probably the best year any British tennis player has ever had since tennis was first started up.
I don't call that belittling do you??

His Olympic Gold is a huge part of that successful year, and it just goes to show how successful we were as a nation in both the Paralympics and the Olympics.
If you feel that there are more deserving British sportspeople out there, then those that competed in both competitions in Rio to be on the shortlist, then fair enough, personally, the unbelievable success in both means for me, only people who won at least one gold medal should be on it (of which Andy unbelievably did).
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Old 06-11-2016, 19:24
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Your continued questioning regarding my overall appreciating of what a great year Andy has had, which includes the Olympic Gold medal, which you consistently are trying to say, what if he hadn't win it, we'll guess what he did, so stop trying to ask questions about if he didn't, as they are pointless.

I am not at all trying to belittle his unbelievable achievements this year, he has had the year of his life, probably the best year any British tennis player has ever had since tennis was first started up.
I don't call that belittling do you??

His Olympic Gold is a huge part of that successful year, and it just goes to show how successful we were as a nation in both the Paralympics and the Olympics.
If you feel that there are more deserving British sportspeople out there, then those that competed in both competitions in Rio to be on the shortlist, then fair enough, personally, the unbelievable success in both means for me, only people who won at least one gold medal should be on it (of which Andy unbelievably did).
You have a habit of interrupting threads to make a point which derails it

You came into the thread paying tribute to Ali to say he was good but The Rock was a greater sportsman. That ended that thread as everyone was in shock that somebody could claim that. So well done you succeeded there

In this thread we were chatting about how Murray will win it because he has gotten to World number 1, the first Brit ever. You came in to say "The winner deservedly should be someone from Rio, and that person who is best placed right now is Murray. " Murray getting to world number 1 has absolutely nothing, that is NOTHING, to do with Rio.
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Old 06-11-2016, 19:46
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You have a habit of interrupting threads to make a point which derails it

You came into the thread paying tribute to Ali to say he was good but The Rock was a greater sportsman. That ended that thread as everyone was in shock that somebody could claim that. So well done you succeeded there

In this thread we were chatting about how Murray will win it because he has gotten to World number 1, the first Brit ever. You came in to say "The winner deservedly should be someone from Rio, and that person who is best placed right now is Murray. " Murray getting to world number 1 has absolutely nothing, that is NOTHING, to do with Rio.
We are talking about this award, not the world number one, which an unbelievable achievement, and one that we might not see from another British tennis player in a very long time.

I still stick by the winner of this award, will have done well in Rio, and Andy most definitely falls into this category.
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Old 06-11-2016, 20:04
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Ignoring you now because if I said what I really thought I would get banned like many others before me

Back on track for the rest

Latest betting from Ladbrokes

Andy Murray 1/2
Ali Brownlee 4/1
Mo Farah 8/1
Laura Trott 10/1
Gareth Bale 16/1
Anthony Joshua 33/1
Nick Skelton 33/1
Max Whitlock 33/1
Jason Kenny 40/1
Jess Ennis Hill 66/1
Lewis Hamilton 66/1

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Old 06-11-2016, 20:14
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The advantage Murray has is that his (latest) achievements are more recent than tHe Olympics, and so fresher in the mind... Ali brownlee winning Olympic triathlon for example seems so long ago...

That being said, prior to this weekend I'd have gone for farah as my first choice and then Murray. Now Murray would be my clear winner. British sporting legend.
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Old 06-11-2016, 20:16
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Batdude spreading his magic in here as well I see.
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Old 06-11-2016, 20:23
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Ignoring you now because if I said what I really thought I would get banned like many others before me

Back on track for the rest

Latest betting from Ladbrokes

Andy Murray 1/2
Ali Brownlee 4/1
Mo Farah 8/1
Laura Trott 10/1
Gareth Bale 16/1
Anthony Joshua 33/1
Nick Skelton 33/1
Max Whitlock 33/1
Jason Kenny 40/1
Jess Ennis Hill 66/1
Lewis Hamilton 66/1

100/1 Bar
Why are you insinuating that people have been banned because of myself, it is down to the mods to ban people, not myself, I have no say in those things whatsoever.

I don't quite know why Hamilton is so short, as I can't see him winning the F1 Championship.
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