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Old 19-12-2016, 16:24
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No chance. He was never in contention even after winning gold at 4 Olympics. He won the Americas Cup before didn't he?
Came 5th in 2013 after having helped Team USA win the Americas Cup. Can only do better for helping a British team win it
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Old 19-12-2016, 16:26
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Came 5th in 2013 after having helped Team USA win the Americas Cup. Can only do better for helping a British team win it
I don't think sailing has that much appeal to UK SPOTY voters. He deserved to place much higher in 2013 after winning 4 golds at 4 Olympics.
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Old 19-12-2016, 16:33
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I don't think sailing has that much appeal to UK SPOTY voters. He deserved to place much higher in 2013 after winning 4 golds at 4 Olympics.
He came 8th for that in 2012. Lets face it we have been talking about a man winning 4 golds in 2 Olympics not winning it. Ainslie could be a shout for next year.
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Old 19-12-2016, 16:34
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Re the 2017 SPOTY

Lifetime achievement could be between Mo Farah and Usain Bolt with both of them retiring next year. Or in Mo's case moving away from track to road.

For the main award Andy Murray of course will be in contention, then providing a win against Klitschko Anthony Joshua will also be on the list. A Grand Slam in the 6 nations could see a rugby nomination. It seems there will be plenty of nominations coming from the World Athletics. Maybe another Golf major winner, that will take it up to about 7. Maybe if Jo Konta continues her progress we could see her on the list. If a snooker player can manage the calendar treble then 2017 may hold the best opportunity of a nomination.
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Old 19-12-2016, 16:35
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He came 8th for that in 2012. Lets face it we have been talking about a man winning 4 golds in 2 Olympics not winning it. Ainslie could be a shout for next year.
I wouldn't put money on it. Joshua if he beats Klitchko yes but Ainslie no.
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Old 19-12-2016, 16:36
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Re the 2017 SPOTY

Lifetime achievement could be between Mo Farah and Usain Bolt with both of them retiring next year. Or in Mo's case moving away from track to road.

For the main award Andy Murray of course will be in contention, then providing a win against Klitschko Anthony Joshua will also be on the list. A Grand Slam in the 6 nations could see a rugby nomination. It seems there will be plenty of nominations coming from the World Athletics. Maybe another Golf major winner, that will take it up to about 7. Maybe if Jo Konta continues her progress we could see her on the list. If a snooker player can manage the calendar treble then 2017 may hold the best opportunity of a nomination.
And hopefully Froome. And Whitlock again if he wins at the Worlds.
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Old 19-12-2016, 17:20
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Joshua if he beats Klitschko will be nailed on...
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Old 19-12-2016, 17:33
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It's not as simple as that. Do you honestly believe a British born white christian athlete who won 2 gold medals at the 2012 Olympics in the 5,000 and 10,000 metres wouldn't have won SPOTY that year or even moreso this year when they repeated that feat? You're deluded if you believe that he hasn't won or even placed in the top 3 because his competition was so much better. You can't get much better than a GB athlete winning 2 gold medals in 2 long distance events twice at separate Olympics. If Seb Coe was competing now and achieved the same success he'd have won SPOTY 2 or 3 times by now.
We have white people with three gold medals who were not even nominated, so why bring skin colour into it, it just makes no sense.
It is just that we are living in an age where we are having unparalleled success, in a heck of a lot of different sports, so some people will have to miss out unfortunately.

There can only be one winner if this title each year, so there will be people not picked that in previous generations would have perhaps won comfortably, but that is just how things are, it certainly doesn't have anything to do with a person's skin colour or religious beliefs.
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Old 19-12-2016, 17:34
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Came 5th in 2013 after having helped Team USA win the Americas Cup. Can only do better for helping a British team win it
Unless that event is heavily publicised, then unfortunately for him, u doubt that he will be placed that high, if he is nominated.
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Old 19-12-2016, 17:36
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Re the 2017 SPOTY

Lifetime achievement could be between Mo Farah and Usain Bolt with both of them retiring next year. Or in Mo's case moving away from track to road.

For the main award Andy Murray of course will be in contention, then providing a win against Klitschko Anthony Joshua will also be on the list. A Grand Slam in the 6 nations could see a rugby nomination. It seems there will be plenty of nominations coming from the World Athletics. Maybe another Golf major winner, that will take it up to about 7. Maybe if Jo Konta continues her progress we could see her on the list. If a snooker player can manage the calendar treble then 2017 may hold the best opportunity of a nomination.
There are the deaflympics next year which might provide one or two headlines, if we are successful there, plus the football European Championship finals for the women, so a few headline tournaments there to take note of.
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Old 19-12-2016, 17:46
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Lifetime achievement. I would be highly surprised if farah won a lifetime achievement award.
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Old 19-12-2016, 17:58
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We have white people with three gold medals who were not even nominated, so why bring skin colour into it, it just makes no sense.
It is just that we are living in an age where we are having unparalleled success, in a heck of a lot of different sports, so some people will have to miss out unfortunately.

There can only be one winner if this title each year, so there will be people not picked that in previous generations would have perhaps won comfortably, but that is just how things are, it certainly doesn't have anything to do with a person's skin colour or religious beliefs.
Who ? I wasn't only referring to his skin colour but his religion and birthplace. And I wasn't only referring to him not winning but not even placing in the top 3 for 4 years in a row when he has won 2 medals at Olympics, European and World Championships.
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Old 19-12-2016, 17:59
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're Farah. I do think the "he's a somalian" was part of the reason he didn't come in the top three. Also the drugs problem with the trainer. Also because distance running is no longer an inclusive sport. Very few nations can win.

I was genuinely surprised about the second and third.

But Murray was clearly the only winner this year, especially with the timing of his ascendancy to world number 1 in the only truly global world sport. Fantastic achievement.
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Old 19-12-2016, 18:16
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I wouldn't put money on it. Joshua if he beats Klitchko yes but Ainslie no.
We've never actually won the America's Cup so it would probably get a lot of publicity. Much better chance for Joshua and Frampton in an odd numbered year should they stay unbeaten.
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Old 19-12-2016, 18:20
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We've never actually won the America's Cup so it would probably get a lot of publicity. Much better chance for Joshua and Frampton in an odd numbered year should they stay unbeaten.
Yes. Still not sure about Ainslie though as Americas Cup is considered quite an elitist event for rich boys and their toys
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Old 19-12-2016, 19:04
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Giving the public a vote on anything will bring strange results (Brexit/Trump).

It doesn't always reflect on who deserves to win, and most people dont vote anyway.

As it is, I think Murray was an obvious, and correct winner, but I do think Mo should have been a close second.

I'd agree with those placings. Mo's races were my biggest punch-the-air moments of the Olympics, again.
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Old 19-12-2016, 19:54
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It's not as simple as that. Do you honestly believe a British born white christian athlete who won 2 gold medals at the 2012 Olympics in the 5,000 and 10,000 metres wouldn't have won SPOTY that year or even moreso this year when they repeated that feat? You're deluded if you believe that he hasn't won or even placed in the top 3 because his competition was so much better. You can't get much better than a GB athlete winning 2 gold medals in 2 long distance events twice at separate Olympics. If Seb Coe was competing now and achieved the same success he'd have won SPOTY 2 or 3 times by now.
Totally agree with this and anyone who believes that his race / colour / religion have nothing to do with it are, in my opinion, naïve.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:31
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Who ? I wasn't only referring to his skin colour but his religion and birthplace. And I wasn't only referring to him not winning but not even placing in the top 3 for 4 years in a row when he has won 2 medals at Olympics, European and World Championships.
Well what about for example a three time gold medal winner at Rio, and I think similar at London in 2012, and other multiple world championship wins, in the form of Hurricane Hannah Cockcroft, she is not black, so what is the reason for her not even getting a nomination?

At least Mo has got nominated during his successful period, so I doubt very much skin colour or religious beliefs has anything to do with this, birthplace is still a bit of a flimsy reason, it just looks like something that is being pulled out of thin air, to try and match your belief, when it is more likely to be just down to the sheer unbelievable level of competition during Mo's peak success era.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:39
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Who ? I wasn't only referring to his skin colour but his religion and birthplace. And I wasn't only referring to him not winning but not even placing in the top 3 for 4 years in a row when he has won 2 medals at Olympics, European and World Championships.
How do you explain Laura Kenny not placing? She has the medals and the publicity.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:46
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We have white people with three gold medals who were not even nominated, so why bring skin colour into it, it just makes no sense.
It is just that we are living in an age where we are having unparalleled success, in a heck of a lot of different sports, so some people will have to miss out unfortunately.

There can only be one winner if this title each year, so there will be people not picked that in previous generations would have perhaps won comfortably, but that is just how things are, it certainly doesn't have anything to do with a person's skin colour or religious beliefs.
I'm not sure if it's skin colour itself, but I do think it's strange that such a successful athlete cannot do better at SPOTY. I think it's alot of factors adding up together - being born abroad, possibly being Somalian (I think people are used to Caribbean sporting heroes nowadays but Somalians are probably considered to be different), and perhaps not coming from a regional area that encourages block voting. I think Mo is a Londoner, and in London we don't seem to support our regional stars the same way with repeated voting to ensure their success. The fact it has generated so much discussion here indicates just how wrong it feels. He will probably get a lifetimem achievement award but the validation of the public would be good.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:46
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How do you explain Laura Kenny not placing? She has the medals and the publicity.
She's a woman. Plus cycling is not as high profile or popular as athletics.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:52
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She's a woman. Plus cycling is not as high profile or popular as athletics.
I don't know if you're being serious about the woman point. The emoticon would suggest you aren't which I hope is the case. Reaching for 'they're not a white man' at every turn is lazy and diminishes the achievement of the people who won.

The cycling point makes no sense. Aside from the fact that many people followed it at the athletics and know who Kenny is, if popularity of sport were a factor then then footballers would win every year.
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:57
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How do you explain Laura Kenny not placing? She has the medals and the publicity.
I think someone mentioned a few pages ago that it might've been the fact that the Kenny's were sold as a duo rather than as two separate's cyclists in their own right that may have harmed them in the votes.
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Old 19-12-2016, 21:02
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I don't know if you're being serious about the woman point. The emoticon would suggest you aren't which I hope is the case. Reaching for 'they're not a white man' at every turn is lazy and diminishes the achievement of the people who won.

The cycling point makes no sense. Aside from the fact that many people followed it at the athletics and know who Kenny is, if popularity of sport were a factor then then footballers would win every year.
The last time a woman won this award was Zara Philips in 2006 and that was just a token award because her mother won.
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Old 19-12-2016, 21:18
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The last time a woman won this award was Zara Philips in 2006 and that was just a token award because her mother won.
It has been that long a woman has not won Sports Personality

Why is it that not many women win this award
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