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Old 19-12-2016, 21:21
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It has been that long a woman has not won Sports Personality

Why is it that not many women win this award
I think it's just unfortunate that sometimes, its the way it shakes out. Jess Ennis-Hill for example, was unlucky not to win a few years ago.
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Old 19-12-2016, 22:17
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I think it's just unfortunate that sometimes, its the way it shakes out. Jess Ennis-Hill for example, was unlucky not to win a few years ago.
This could easily be said about Mo, rather than bringing race, religion, or birth place into things.

Sometimes people look far too hard for a reason, when one is simply not there.
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Old 19-12-2016, 22:20
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I think it's just unfortunate that sometimes, its the way it shakes out. Jess Ennis-Hill for example, was unlucky not to win a few years ago.
I think also the major sports are dominted by men like

Andy Murray in Tennis

England Rugby team. But a few years ago the England Womens Rugby team won Team of the year

And then you have Football and Cricket which are mostly dominated by men because it is more popular
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Old 19-12-2016, 23:00
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She's a woman. Plus cycling is not as high profile or popular as athletics.
It has been that long a woman has not won Sports Personality

Why is it that not many women win this award
Because non PC it may be, but women's sport has a fraction of the competitiveness of men's sport. Women will in general need something special to beat men to this title.
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Old 19-12-2016, 23:25
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My highlight of the show was the guy looking through his clipboard in the background during a talking to audience segment and realising he was on camera. His face was priceless as he hid to the side.
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Old 19-12-2016, 23:29
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Because non PC it may be, but women's sport has a fraction of the competitiveness of men's sport. Women will in general need something special to beat men to this title.
A fraction of the coverage too.
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Old 19-12-2016, 23:42
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A fraction of the coverage too.
It's a bit of both. Some women's sport is very competitive, such as gymnastics, tennis and athletics. However, so long as football, rugby and cricket are getting the bulk of the column inches, then men will get the bulk of the column inches.

It also become a circular issue, because the media loves stars, and stars get attention, and the public assume that the stars are great. And young boys assume that it's reasonable for them to become a professional athlete, but girls don't have as many role models.

I do think it's improving, and while there are less female sporting role models than is desirable, there's a lot more than there used to be. Our improvements in Olympic sports has helped loads.
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Old 20-12-2016, 00:31
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It's a bit of both. Some women's sport is very competitive, such as gymnastics, tennis and athletics. However, so long as football, rugby and cricket are getting the bulk of the column inches, then men will get the bulk of the column inches.

It also become a circular issue, because the media loves stars, and stars get attention, and the public assume that the stars are great. And young boys assume that it's reasonable for them to become a professional athlete, but girls don't have as many role models.

I do think it's improving, and while there are less female sporting role models than is desirable, there's a lot more than there used to be. Our improvements in Olympic sports has helped loads.
I see what you are saying, but I think that there are plenty of pathways for young girls to become a star in whatever sport they want to do, and are plenty of good role models for them, be it women's football, cricket, netball, athletics, MMA, or tennis, just for starters.

Women's sport has in this country, I think never been as potentially good or, or the access pathways so easy to get to.
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Old 20-12-2016, 01:44
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How do you explain Laura Kenny not placing? She has the medals and the publicity.
I thought she'd do better but I don't think the VT on the night did them any favours.
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Old 20-12-2016, 16:55
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This could easily be said about Mo, rather than bringing race, religion, or birth place into things.

Sometimes people look far too hard for a reason, when one is simply not there.
It's also very unfair on those who do win. Alistair Brownlee caught the public imagination this year dragging his brother over the line, in addition to being double Olympic champion. He wouldn't have been up there 'just' for the gold. Nick Skleton wouldn't have been there if he was 30. People relate to people and their stories and they're allowed to do that without being called racist/sexist.
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Old 21-12-2016, 19:23
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I am sure there are some racists out there, but I don't think it's the over-riding factor. There's no doubt that on the grounds of sporting achievement alone, Mo deserved to be in the top three more than Skelton, but so did Jason Kenny, and Sarah Storey, and well most of them, if we're honest. People didn't vote for Skelton in their droves because they are racist, they voted for him because he has a remarkable story, and they admire his perseverance.

And frankly, there are a lot of people who like the fact someone older is able to win gold and he was the only representative of that demographic. I'd argue that you can't cross promote SPOTY and Strictly, and expect everyone that tunes in to be hard-core sports fans voting on achievement alone. In particular, the Strictly voters would all be registered with online accounts on the BBC website and remember their username and passwords.
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