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It's not the Christmas episode. There's been confirmation on Twitter etc that it is S10Ep1, including IIRC clapperboard shots etc.
There've been rumours that the snow is unseasonal, and caused by the monster... but even if that wasn't the case, it's perfectly possible to have a winter-set episode with snow and all that isn't anything to do with Christmas... |
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Great Game Of Thrones spoiler there.
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'Twas most glorious.
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Is it not possible that for production purposes they are calling this years Christmas episode S10Ep1?
Unless it was something to do with pearls availability, I really couldn't imagine why they would start filming the series before the Christmas special. The Christmas special is due to air in roughly 6 months, whereas the series is about 9 months from airing. If they waited months to film Christmas it would give them hardly any time for the editing/polishing stuff. That coupled with the fact that snow and the sight of a Christmas present positively screams Christmas episode, I think that it is likely that it is indeed the Christmas special, and that it is being called 's10ep1' for production purposes, since it is all being filmed together, and that the people saying it is 'confirmed' not to be the Christmas episode are just seeing that production slate and getting confused. if it's not the Christmas episode and is actually episode 1, it would be very weird to see a snowy episode with people exchanging presents in March (roughly when series 10 would presumably start). |
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I thought that Pearl Mackie wasn't in the Christmas Special this year. That Bill was being introduced in S10E1 instead.
It does seem weird however. Unless they're filming the special in chunks around the main filming. Maybe Series 10 will feature a Doctor-lite episode that was filmed at the same time as the Christmas one? |
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The Christmas special will film in September. The first episode of series ten, introducing Bill, is filming first, followed by, I believe, episodes 3 and 4.
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The Christmas special will film in September. The first episode of series ten, introducing Bill, is filming first, followed by, I believe, episodes 3 and 4.
Is there any actual official source that says that it definitely isn't the Christmas episode? (and by 'official' I mean not 'some guy you've never heard of on twitter says'). |
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Why would you film an episode in September that you have to release in Decemeber,
Still gives them 2 - 3 months for post production. |
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I guess it would make sense if there was an issue with availability. Or, Bill will appear in the Christmas episode (and if so, like with all companions, they film other episodes first so that they know the character well by the time they film their first episode)
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Maybe members of the cast for the Special aren't available till September?
Still gives them 2 - 3 months for post production. Still seems very odd to me that the supposed Episode 1 1 looks so like a Christmas episode. Has anyone considered that this could be the Christmas episode, marked as episode 1 because it is from a production standpoint, and that the rumuored special they are filming in September could actually be the 2017 Christmas episode, filmed at the end of the block, rather than stopping production and then starting again at some other point for the sake of one episode?. Just wondering because it seems a lot of people seem so sure that despite all the visual evidence that it isn't the Christmas episode, yet no one seems to have any particular source for that information other than slate pics which say episode 1, and people talking on twitter, both of which don't prove a lot. As I say, to me, if it turns out it is episode 1, it would feel very strangely out of season to be watching such an episode in March/April time. . |
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That coupled with the fact that snow and the sight of a Christmas present positively screams Christmas episode, I think that it is likely that it is indeed the Christmas special, and that it is being called 's10ep1' for production purposes, since it is all being filmed together, and that the people saying it is 'confirmed' not to be the Christmas episode are just seeing that production slate and getting confused.
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Why would you film an episode in September that you have to release in Decemeber, so that you can film episodes in June that don't have to be out for months after the Christmas episode. Really doesn't make sense to me.
If there's outdoor filming they may wish to avoid a strong summer look, like what happened with The Runaway Bride. Or it could be waiting for cast or location availability to work out with the idea they've got - either for the Christmas special itself or indeed Series 10 episodes that would either have to be retooled if they left those to film later. Uniquely the Series 10 Christmas special will just be filmed as part of the tenth series proper this year. They've filmed as late in the year as this before for the Christmas special so it's quite normal. I don't actually think it's that strange at all myself. |
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Theory: Bill isn't in the Christmas special, but Pearl Mackie is. She will be playing a mysterious new character who dies at the end of the episode, leaving the Doctor confused and intrigued when he supposedly meets her again in episode one.
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Theory: Bill isn't in the Christmas special, but Pearl Mackie is. She will be playing a mysterious new character who dies at the end of the episode, leaving the Doctor confused and intrigued when he supposedly meets her again in episode one.
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Theory: Bill isn't in the Christmas special, but Pearl Mackie is. She will be playing a mysterious new character who dies at the end of the episode, leaving the Doctor confused and intrigued when he supposedly meets her again in episode one.
Done before. And I'm sure I'm not alone in hoping that theres no hyperbole with the new companion. Just an ordinary person who choses to travel with the Doctor. Thats not to say she can't be interesting, or have a unique reason for joining the Doctor... but just a normal person please. On balance, far too many of the companions have had something overly special about them. The only 'normal' one we've had has been Martha. No prophecy surrounding her or mystery to be solved. We've had: 1. Rose - Super powered time vortex absorbing bad wolf. 2. Donna - DoctorDonna everything converging on you.... 3. Amy & Rory - Eventual parents to River Song. 4. Clara - Impossible girl / superhumanly perfect ![]() so please... Bill... be an everyman - a normal person! |
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1. Rose - Super powered time vortex absorbing bad wolf.
2. Donna - DoctorDonna everything converging on you.... 3. Amy & Rory - Eventual parents to River Song. 4. Clara - Impossible girl / superhumanly perfect ![]() so please... Bill... be an everyman - a normal person! As with Clara I hated the impossible girl stuff, and was glad to see it swept under the rug in the end. It denied her any sense of character, or conflict and made her a plot more than a person. But with Series 8 and 9 she was far from perfect...she had a friction with the Doctor, she had a wobble and building self-doubt. She grew reckless with depression after Danny died. She betrayed the Doctor's trust on more than one occasion but never out of malice towards him. She was deeply flawed. As soon as she stopped being the impossible girl she became incredibly human to me. I think eventhough I hate her being the story arc in Series 7, and hate that her story encompassed Hell Bent, she is probably Moffat's biggest character triumph in my eyes. She may have been inconsistent, but again once the impossible girl stuff is out of the way she was inconsistent as a personality trait... not just because the writing wasn't up to scratch. Martha was just decent throughout. Lumbered with an unrequited love story too though it did grate at the time that there was very little else to her so she didn't have the impact she could have done... no fault of Freema Agyeman and I still love the character. It helps that I now 'get' her more with age as well...if that makes any sense. |
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Sounds like a great plotline, reminds me of something though
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As with Clara I hated the impossible girl stuff, and was glad to see it swept under the rug in the end. It denied her any sense of character, or conflict and made her a plot more than a person. But with Series 8 and 9 she was far from perfect...she had a friction with the Doctor, she had a wobble and building self-doubt. She grew reckless with depression after Danny died. She betrayed the Doctor's trust on more than one occasion but never out of malice towards him. She was deeply flawed. As soon as she stopped being the impossible girl she became incredibly human to me. I think eventhough I hate her being the story arc in Series 7, and hate that her story encompassed Hell Bent, she is probably Moffat's biggest character triumph in my eyes. She may have been inconsistent, but again once the impossible girl stuff is out of the way she was inconsistent as a personality trait... not just because the writing wasn't up to scratch.
I still retain that the scene in Dark Water where Clara threatens to destroy the TARDIS keys is one of my favourites of S8. The conflict between the Twelfth Doctor and Clara was something that made their relationship so compelling, as well more believable, and it was brought to a fitting close in Hell Bent. It wasn't forced or rushed, it was something that played out naturally and convincingly, and I enjoyed the angle that their relationship was something dangerous and destructive as opposed to the traditional. Certainly a whole lot more entertaining than the contrived teen romance thing between the Tenth Doctor and Rose, in my opinion. |
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please PLEASE no.
Done before. And I'm sure I'm not alone in hoping that theres no hyperbole with the new companion. Just an ordinary person who choses to travel with the Doctor. Thats not to say she can't be interesting, or have a unique reason for joining the Doctor... but just a normal person please. On balance, far too many of the companions have had something overly special about them. The only 'normal' one we've had has been Martha. No prophecy surrounding her or mystery to be solved. We've had: 1. Rose - Super powered time vortex absorbing bad wolf. 2. Donna - DoctorDonna everything converging on you.... 3. Amy & Rory - Eventual parents to River Song. 4. Clara - Impossible girl / superhumanly perfect ![]() so please... Bill... be an everyman - a normal person! |
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You forgot the rest of Clara's stuff: "The Only Mystery Worth Solving", oh and the fact that she goes through all of The Doctor's history and future and timeline and saves him each and every time throughout all of his adventures. Sigh.
This isnt really the thread to debate a companions merits I guess. For me, Clara was indeed too perfect though . She took everything she saw in her stride. there was very little sense of wonder and seeing the universe through the companions eyes. She always knew what to do and in several situations was the one who saved the day and not the doctor. Hell.... she even operated the TARDIS from time to time.... too perfect.
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You forgot the rest of Clara's stuff: "The Only Mystery Worth Solving", oh and the fact that she goes through all of The Doctor's history and future and timeline and saves him each and every time throughout all of his adventures. Sigh.
"Each and evert time"? Come on! The most that might be justifiable is: She might have saved the Doctor on some occasions, after the interference of the Great Intelligence. In any case, the GI's negative interference was cancelled out by Clara's positive interference. Result: No perceptible change to past events. |
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BIB: That's simply not true. Or, at best, an exaggeration. We were never shown her in the Doctor's future and we were never shown what she actually did in his past.
"Each and evert time"? Come on! The most that might be justifiable is: She might have saved the Doctor on some occasions, after the interference of the Great Intelligence. In any case, the GI's negative interference was cancelled out by Clara's positive interference. Result: No perceptible change to past events. (Emphases mine.) What in the world else am I supposed to make from that monologue? Supposedly, Clara has now been there throughout all of The Doctor's travels and it was she, not him, who saved the day each and every single time. It has been always Clara. The Doctor, apparently, according to Moffat, is nothing. It is all Clara Who. She is the perfect one. It has always been her who saved the day, not The Doctor. Clara Who, Clara Who, Clara Who. |
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I'm with GDK here. The GI enters the Doctor's timeline, described as an open wound, to poison and corrupt his past. Splintered Clara is the antitode to the GI's interference. Whether that's a good concept or not is subjective of course, personally think it played out reasonably well on screen, but the Doctor's past victories are absolutely his as the splinters cancel out the GI's attempts to rewrite the Doctor's past.
How I see it, anyway. |
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I'm with GDK here. The GI enters the Doctor's timeline, described as an open wound, to poison and corrupt his past. Splintered Clara is the antitode to the GI's interference. Whether that's a good concept or not is subjective of course, personally think it played out reasonably well on screen, but the Doctor's past victories are absolutely his as the splinters cancel out the GI's attempts to rewrite the Doctor's past.
How I see it, anyway. |
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Anyhoo... (is that an American expression?)
What's been filming today? Or last night as the case may be... Is it true that the Great Intelligence will be reappearing this season? |
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Anyhoo... (is that an American expression?)
What's been filming today? Or last night as the case may be... Is it true that the Great Intelligence will be reappearing this season? |
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