He's not just a Landlord, he's the Last of the Landlords.


It could possibly be a similar situation with Series 6, where BBC America partially funded the series for it's Utah-filmed episodes.

But generic as it is, Vancouver is also distinctly North American, which is a refreshing change. If we're having Earth-set stories in cities it's always nice to see somewhere other than London and Cardiff (and the odd stock shot of New York thrown in).

I think that Doctor Who really makes the most of its location filming, and I always look forward to hearing where they're headed next. I do wonder if they have some kind of deal with Spain given that it's been used in Series 7, 8, 9 and now 10 as well in some capacity or other. It's been a fantastic way to keep things looking diverse... the Wild West, the moon, Skaro, wherever Missy was at the start of Series 9 (possibly Spain itself), Nevada, and now whatever Valencia is being used for. They've had a lot of creative ideas on how to use some places.

...impatient, you were

Guess that confirms he's Bill's landlord

Apparently he is also in The Flash as well this time round.

But nice to see Doctor Who going back to Vancouver if it's true. Can't wait!

It is interesting. I like what your implying and hope their is something in it.

Am I the only one who thinks we'd need more than Jack for the Christmas special? I feel this year's special needs something of an extra push and Jack wouldn't be enough. Maybe him and several other characters too? Something that's way bigger in terms of story than The Husbands Of River Song was.

The Christmas special has to be about a guest star, a concept or a story that will draw viewers. As much as some fans seem to love Captain Jack, Barrowman isn't going to be the one to draw viewers.

They usually show a trailer during children in need mid november. Hope they get some good guest stars. Silent or 12th night would be a great title for it.

The video of The Doctor & students fleeing the house.

Trying to make out the dialogue...

"What was it?"
"The man... (who owns our??)... house"
"You sure about that?"

I disagree. The advent of a River return was big news last year, and as much as I love River, in my opinion Jack still seems to have a bigger fanbase, and it's been much longer since we saw him.

Of course it all comes down to whether a good story has been written, but I feel a Jack return would be something they could really advertise to fans and casual viewers alike.

Not to mention with Arrow, Barrowman is a bigger star in his own right now than he was when he was playing Jack regularly, which could gain the show extra viewership from people who have never watched before, but have heard of his guest role, and watch for him, which could lead to them possibly ending up liking the whole concept of the show, and thus becoming new fans.


Moffat has already said there is no point in him doing big goodbye type stories when most of the audience haven't got a clue who he is, or the fact that he is leaving, so I don't think he's planning to go down that route.

Even if he were, multiple characters returning in one story would be a lot of fun, but I personally think to balance that element with having a good story worth all their returns, such a thing needs a 2 parter to do it justice, rather than the Christmas special.

The stolen Earth/Journeys end was a two parter where the second part was an hour long (totalling a 1hr 45 min story), and I would think any Moffat attempt at a similar thing with characters from his era would need a similar amount of time.

I'm not the biggest Captain Jack fan, he's a pretty boring character to me, but I disagree that he wouldn't draw in viewers. There's a lot of love for Barrowman and his Doctor Who character out there.

He's not the only character whose return would draw in viewers though.

I don't know. I'm not disputing the character's popularity but we already did the former companion/ally returns with River so with Jack, maybe he should be one of several returnee characters for this year's Christmas special.

Peter, Pearl and the cast of Class are all going to be at Comic-Con in New York this October. Apparently there's to be a preview of Series 10 and I would suspect Class content is a dead cert too.

Cue the complaints about the show not debuting its trailers at a British venue.

I think it says the 'preview' will be of the Christmas ep - with 'hints' of Series 10. But I imagine they can show off some Bill action, too.

I don't get that he's popular beyond a clique of fans that want him back - with the public I get the impression he's seen as pretty cheesy. I certainly don't think it would increase viewers. I mean, last year with River didn't exactly set the ratings alight. If the Xmas special is to maintain it's place in the schedule it needs something from outside the series to draw people to it as well as being a rollicking adventure.

I see it as the other way around personally.

Like maybe an actor who is known for his role in the dc tv universe shows?

That's why he ticks many boxes for me. He will be interesting for fans who like him, He has potential to persuade the type of person who loved the RTD era but stopped watching during Moffats time to give the show a new chance, but, perhaps more importantly than those, he could bring in the sort of person who has never watched the show before (but likes sci-fi) to give it a go because an actor from Arrow is involved. Those people may then be impressed with the episode and become fans thereafter.

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The first episode of series 10 is titled 'A Star In Her Eye' #DoctorWho

The Series 10 wiki page was edited with that title on July 14th.

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So, is there any official source to believe that title is true and not just rumour?

The DC shows have a pretty minimal audience in the UK so it's hardly going to be a ratings draw which is, after all, the whole point of the Xmas guest star. It's not Radio Tines cover-inducing as having, say, a Downton Abbey star or someone like that.

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12 swapped the sonic shades for a superior model.

I have to agree. Barrowman isn't as big a deal over here as he was a few years ago, which is why I think Jack would have to be one of several returnee characters for this year's Christmas special instead of just the main attraction.

Whatever the Christmas special is, it needs to be something massive, attention grabbing and something that can pull viewers back into the series.

I quite like A Star In Her Eye as the title for episode 1. I hope it's not changed.

I'm going to guess the 'minimal audience' comment is more your opinion than based on anything.

Sky1 had Arrow first, then continued to purchase the rights to those shows as new one's were made. No way would they have kept doing that, or even purchasing further seasons of arrow, if they were only getting a 'minimal audience' watching them.

Besides that's just one element. For anyone who likes Barrowman in general, it would be a draw, For most RTD era fans, it would be a draw, and for anyone just curious to see how Jack would interact with the 12th doctor, it would be a draw. Add to that those DC tv universe fans and there are various reasons his casting would be a draw for many.

Of course if you don't like the character yourself, you may not see any value in including him, but the very fact that there is a thread right now about Torchwood being back, not to mention Torchwood audios and books still being produced (and selling well enough to keep getting produced), and Jack even gettting a mention in the last series, all goes to show that there is still a lot of interest in the character.

I'm sorry but I have to weigh in on the 'minimal' audience debate for Arrow and the rest of the DC series on Sky1.

https://corporate.sky.com/media-cent...ds-of-tomorrow

I'm with doctor blue box on this one.

Minimal audience compared to the ratings Who gets, yes. Sky can afford to splash out of shows given that they are a subscriber service but their ratings aren't comparable to mainstream shows.

My point is it was that 'minimal' the they wouldn't buy them at all. No channel keeps spending money on foreign imports that hardly anybody is watching.

Besides, as I pointed out, that was just one of a number of reasons why I think bringing Jack back would be a draw to different area's of viewership.

If you don't like something personally, it doesn't it isn't popular. I, for the most part couldn't stand Clara, but that doesn't mean I don't accept she has a fanbase.


Thanks for the handy proof . It seemed obvious to me that they wouldn't keep buying the shows if they were doing well, and I certainly know a fair few people who watch some of them or all of them personally (myself included). That article just makes the point though that they very much do have an audience in the UK.



Thanks for the confirmation.