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Doctor Who Spoilers & Information (Part 3)
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davidnumen
21-08-2016
American shows don't have the cachet they used to have on UK television - nothing matches the likes of Dallas, Dynasty, The Incredible Hulk, The Six Million Dollar Man - these shows came when we had only 3 mainstream channels and dominated ratings pretty well from memory. These days such shows are left to the minority channels such as Channel 5 and Sky. They simply don't have a huge ratings presence and IF ratings is a priority (and given how they've dipped in recent years I think the Xmas episode is a good one to use to boost ratings) then it's much more newsworthy to have, say, Benedict Cumberbatch (unlikely but you get my point - someone from an actual high profile mainstream show) than John Barrowman. I think he's too divisive among fans to even make an impact with the diehards - not that they matter as far as ratings are concerned anyway. I don't mind Captain Jack - I don't have a particular fondness for him but given a good story he'd be welcome however I don't think his return would in any way be a ratings booster. I might be wrong, but certainly as far as UK audiences are concerned I think there's likely a huge crossover with the Who viewership anyway.
doctor blue box
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by davidnumen:
“American shows don't have the cachet they used to have on UK television - nothing matches the likes of Dallas, Dynasty, The Incredible Hulk, The Six Million Dollar Man - these shows came when we had only 3 mainstream channels and dominated ratings pretty well from memory. These days such shows are left to the minority channels such as Channel 5 and Sky. They simply don't have a huge ratings presence and IF ratings is a priority (and given how they've dipped in recent years I think the Xmas episode is a good one to use to boost ratings) then it's much more newsworthy to have, say, Benedict Cumberbatch (unlikely but you get my point - someone from an actual high profile mainstream show) than John Barrowman. I think he's too divisive among fans to even make an impact with the diehards - not that they matter as far as ratings are concerned anyway. I don't mind Captain Jack - I don't have a particular fondness for him but given a good story he'd be welcome however I don't think his return would in any way be a ratings booster. I might be wrong, but certainly as far as UK audiences are concerned I think there's likely a huge crossover with the Who viewership anyway.”

Game of thrones(gets better UK ratings than most UK shows),The walking dead, American Horror story, and yes, though you refuse to believe it - the dc universe tv shows - all examples of American shows being popular in the UK.

Maisie Williams appearance in who last year was all over the media both when she was announced and then again when her episodes were due to air directly Because of her popularity in the UK from being in an american show

The very fact that there are more channels than ever now, and American shows still do well, despite so much choice, suggests that they are more popular than ever.

Besides, as I've consistently stated, it's not just about his presence in those DC shows alone.

From Torchwood still thriving in the form of audio's and books, to yes, his presence in those DC tv shows, to say, the popularity he might have from his various UK presenting jobs he has had, there is much evidence to suggest he is a popular actor, and the character is still popular.


Like I said earlier, if you don't particularly think much of the character and don't want to see him back, then thats fine and you should just say that, but there's no point in trying to project that onto the wider audience by suggesting he's not popular in general, when there is much evidence to suggest that he is both as an actor and as the character.
Shawn_Lunn
23-08-2016
They should be filming the Christmas special soon though.
Abomination
24-08-2016
Apparently David Suchet has been really enjoying his time with Doctor Who
Whoswho1
25-08-2016
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“Apparently David Suchet has been really enjoying his time with Doctor Who ”

who could blame him
Jeremy_Clark
25-08-2016
Will there be a Dalek story in the new season?
Sara_Peplow
25-08-2016
Reckon the daleks will return at some point. Like Missy and the cybermen they are the doctors worst enemies. They always return to torment him.
Shawn_Lunn
25-08-2016
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“Apparently David Suchet has been really enjoying his time with Doctor Who ”

It's always nice hearing that. Looking forward to seeing him in episode 4.
malcy86
25-08-2016
Possible return to the vicarage which doubled as Amy's house in TEH. The vicar said to a tourist that the BBC had rang up with an possible interest in filming there again.

Please no Amy/Rory...
Whoswho1
25-08-2016
Started a cricket thread down below ......saying in DWM Minchin said he always planned to leave with Moffat. I think it was in the moffat departure announcement it was said Matt Srevens would take over as producer
Whoswho1
25-08-2016
@GirlyLetters
The #DoctorWho production team allegedly called to say they may need to use 'Amy's childhood home' again in future.
david_Robinson
25-08-2016
Originally Posted by malcy86:
“Possible return to the vicarage which doubled as Amy's house in TEH. The vicar said to a tourist that the BBC had rang up with an possible interest in filming there again.

Please no Amy/Rory...”

Don't worry, they love reusing locations

They Filmed on the Doomsday Beach again for Series 5. Then again for Series 7

National Museum of Wales is very Popular
It was used for Planet of the Dead, The Big bang, Dalek, The Lazarus Experiment and Voyage of the Damned

You might also know the Millennium Stadium from Doctor who
It was used for the Stormcage, Henry van Statten's Base, UNIT HQ, Tunnel Under Thames, Adipose Industries (basement) And the Stadium itself was used in Fear her. (If you can remember.. You know, when everybody disappeared for some reason)

The Temple Of Peace is another common one
It was Used for Lets Kill hitler, Cold Blood, The End of the World, GridLock and The Fires of Pompeii

Also, Tredegar House is VERY popular
https://moviemaps.org/locations/1jp
Shawn_Lunn
26-08-2016
The house is probably just being used for something new rather than an Amy return, even though she was totally Moffat's best companion.
malcy86
27-08-2016
Originally Posted by david_Robinson:
“Don't worry, they love reusing locations

They Filmed on the Doomsday Beach again for Series 5. Then again for Series 7

National Museum of Wales is very Popular
It was used for Planet of the Dead, The Big bang, Dalek, The Lazarus Experiment and Voyage of the Damned

You might also know the Millennium Stadium from Doctor who
It was used for the Stormcage, Henry van Statten's Base, UNIT HQ, Tunnel Under Thames, Adipose Industries (basement) And the Stadium itself was used in Fear her. (If you can remember.. You know, when everybody disappeared for some reason)

The Temple Of Peace is another common one
It was Used for Lets Kill hitler, Cold Blood, The End of the World, GridLock and The Fires of Pompeii

Also, Tredegar House is VERY popular
https://moviemaps.org/locations/1jp”

Yeah i know the locations that are used over, was more hoping that Moffatt wouldn't bring them back just because it was his last chance to. As much as i hate Amy/Rory i feel another appearence would just be a repeat of TOTD.
Abomination
27-08-2016
"Finished filming my episode of Doctor Who. The Landlord is a very strange and challenging character. Great company & crew. Thanks to all". - David Suchet
Shawn_Lunn
29-08-2016
Onto the Christmas special then and it's about time.

Just realised - Nardole's probably gonna be in the bloody thing isn't he? They'll want the opening episode to focus on Bill, so they'll have to reintroduce him earlier then, won't they?
Lord Smexy
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by davidnumen:
“American shows don't have the cachet they used to have on UK television - nothing matches the likes of Dallas, Dynasty, The Incredible Hulk, The Six Million Dollar Man - these shows came when we had only 3 mainstream channels and dominated ratings pretty well from memory. These days such shows are left to the minority channels such as Channel 5 and Sky. They simply don't have a huge ratings presence and IF ratings is a priority (and given how they've dipped in recent years I think the Xmas episode is a good one to use to boost ratings) then it's much more newsworthy to have, say, Benedict Cumberbatch (unlikely but you get my point - someone from an actual high profile mainstream show) than John Barrowman. I think he's too divisive among fans to even make an impact with the diehards - not that they matter as far as ratings are concerned anyway. I don't mind Captain Jack - I don't have a particular fondness for him but given a good story he'd be welcome however I don't think his return would in any way be a ratings booster. I might be wrong, but certainly as far as UK audiences are concerned I think there's likely a huge crossover with the Who viewership anyway.”

I only hear about the American shows nowadays, such as Arrow and The Walking Dead, whereas the British ones tend to go relatively unnoticed. When it comes to dramas, I do personally think America tends to have the higher quality ones these days. I mean, they did have Breaking Bad, and the writing there was phenomenal, especially by TV standards. Where I'm standing, there's nobody left who hasn't watched it.

I never stop hearing good things about the DC and Marvel shows either, but I couldn't keep up with them all unfortunately.
Airborae
30-08-2016
I know there's a thread, but for those who missed it yesterday (as indeed I did)...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/l...-shown-8731339
MR_Pitkin
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by davidnumen;83684276[B:
“]American shows don't have the cachet they used to have on UK television[/b] - nothing matches the likes of Dallas, Dynasty, The Incredible Hulk, The Six Million Dollar Man - these shows came when we had only 3 mainstream channels and dominated ratings pretty well from memory. These days such shows are left to the minority channels such as Channel 5 and Sky. They simply don't have a huge ratings presence and IF ratings is a priority (and given how they've dipped in recent years I think the Xmas episode is a good one to use to boost ratings) then it's much more newsworthy to have, say, Benedict Cumberbatch (unlikely but you get my point - someone from an actual high profile mainstream show) than John Barrowman. I think he's too divisive among fans to even make an impact with the diehards - not that they matter as far as ratings are concerned anyway. I don't mind Captain Jack - I don't have a particular fondness for him but given a good story he'd be welcome however I don't think his return would in any way be a ratings booster. I might be wrong, but certainly as far as UK audiences are concerned I think there's likely a huge crossover with the Who viewership anyway.”

I stopped reading after this.
CD93
30-08-2016
Costumes.
adams66
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by CD93:
“Costumes.”

Loving the hat!
doctor blue box
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Shawn_Lunn:
“Onto the Christmas special then and it's about time.

Just realised - Nardole's probably gonna be in the bloody thing isn't he? They'll want the opening episode to focus on Bill, so they'll have to reintroduce him earlier then, won't they?”

I thought his role was just a guest in a single story rather than him having a big part in the series, in which case no big re-introduction would be required, he'd just pop up in a story like anyone else.
Airborae
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by CD93:
“Costumes.”

Peter C. there just reminded me of James Frazer of Walmington On Sea (Dad's Army)!
Nelson_De_Souza
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by doctor blue box:
“I thought his role was just a guest in a single story rather than him having a big part in the series, in which case no big re-introduction would be required, he'd just pop up in a story like anyone else.”

From what I've gathered, Nardole is going to be sort of like another companion. Unless I've completely misunderstood everything, but I think he's meant to be in quite a bit of the series, isn't he?
adams66
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Airborae:
“Peter C. there just reminded me of James Frazer of Walmington On Sea (Dad's Army)!”

We're doomed, doooomed I tell you!
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