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Old 02-06-2016, 23:20
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Moffat confirming, that, in some alternative universe, the Marquis De Carabas would have made a fine 11th Doctor.

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Old 04-06-2016, 11:12
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June 17th - supposedly.
They apparently start in two weeks, according to Capaldi, yesterday. Lets hope episodes of the new series can scrape past Top Gear's AI of 60.
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Old 04-06-2016, 11:31
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They apparently start in two weeks, according to Capaldi, yesterday. Lets hope episodes of the new series can beat Top Gear's AI of 60.
You called it.

Assume it's the Christmas episode then as Pearl is in her play up to the 28th. The news drought is nearly over for those of us who like following the filming developments, castings, etc.
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Old 06-06-2016, 02:50
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I wonder if we will get a series worth of 60 minute episodes next year seeing as we have had to wait so long for series 10... I really hope so because we have such a long wait until the new series, so it is only fair we are given extra Doctor Who. Please give us fourteen hour long episodes including this year's and next year's Christmas specials.
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Old 06-06-2016, 15:29
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I wonder if we will get a series worth of 60 minute episodes next year seeing as we have had to wait so long for series 10... I really hope so because we have such a long wait until the new series, so it is only fair we are given extra Doctor Who. Please give us fourteen hour long episodes including this year's and next year's Christmas specials.
That's obviously not going to happen due to production time etc.
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Old 06-06-2016, 20:15
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I wonder if we will get a series worth of 60 minute episodes next year seeing as we have had to wait so long for series 10... I really hope so because we have such a long wait until the new series, so it is only fair we are given extra Doctor Who. Please give us fourteen hour long episodes including this year's and next year's Christmas specials.
They won't make episodes longer than was always intended. The BBC and Moffat couldn't care less how fans feel about the show not airing a series in 2016, despite the fact they probably should care about the reliable fans of one of their most valuable properties.
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Old 06-06-2016, 20:58
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They won't make episodes longer than was always intended. The BBC and Moffat couldn't care less how fans feel about the show not airing a series in 2016, despite the fact they probably should care about the reliable fans of one of their most valuable properties.
The BBC and Moffat both wanted Chibnall, but he's a bit busy at the moment so SM is doing another year, despite probably wanting to get the hell out of it by now. He honestly stated how the whole Series 7/50th anniversary period was not a good time for him in the last DWM interview. Interesting read.

You don't like his era, fair enough, but I think that is really harsh to say that he "couldn't care less." Whatever people might think about the C21 'eras', I personally don't doubt that both RTD and SM both care about Doctor Who a great deal.
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Old 06-06-2016, 21:04
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They won't make episodes longer than was always intended. The BBC and Moffat couldn't care less how fans feel about the show not airing a series in 2016, despite the fact they probably should care about the reliable fans of one of their most valuable properties.
Rubbish. If Moffat really didn't care, he wouldn't have signed on for Series 10 and just finished at Series 9 as originally intended, and we'd be looking at a two-year gap. The gap year wasn't exactly his intention and was out of his control. He's probably getting a hefty pay for this last series, but believe it or not, Moffat is a longtime and devoted Who fan and he does care about the show. What makes you think he doesn't care about the fans, I don't know. He hasn't done anything to suggest such that I know of.
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Old 06-06-2016, 21:06
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The BBC and Moffat both wanted Chibnall, but he's a bit busy at the moment so SM is doing another year, despite probably wanting to get the hell out of it by now. He honestly stated how the whole Series 7/50th anniversary period was not a good time for him in the last DWM interview. Interesting read.

You don't like his era, fair enough, but I think that is really harsh to say that he "couldn't care less." Whatever people might think about the C21 'eras', I personally don't doubt that both RTD and SM both care about Doctor Who a great deal.
It's nothing to do with what I think of the substance of his era, but everything to do with the fact of the stop/start nature of the show over the course of his era.

From series split over two years, to the present where we have no series at all this year, there has been no consistency, which makes me and others wistful for the days of series 1-4 when you could count on a new full series starting in spring every year like clockwork. The time of day the episodes aired didn't even differ half as much then as they have since.

Some people might try and claim that it's all the BBC, but when RTD delivered consistency under the same constraints, then I have to believe that Moffat is simply not as dedicated.

Hope Chibnall can bring back the consistency we had with the RTD era.


Rubbish. If Moffat really didn't care, he wouldn't have signed on for Series 10 and just finished at Series 9 as originally intended, and we'd be looking at a two-year gap. The gap year wasn't exactly his intention and was out of his control. He's probably getting a hefty pay for this last series, but believe it or not, Moffat is a longtime and devoted Who fan and he does care about the show. What makes you think he doesn't care about the fans, I don't know. He hasn't done anything to suggest such that I know of.
I was only responding to someone who expected that they might in some way extend the episodes by way of compensation for no series in 2016. Why, do you think that Moffat will make extra long episodes in 2017 or in any way compensate for the lack of series in 2016?. No?. Me neither, because like I said I really don't think they care what the fans think about having missed out on another series.

By my count, if you consider the fact that there was no series produced in 2013 (the anniversary year, no less) and the fact that there could have been both a series in 2016 and 2017, then by my count, if anyone under Moffat had been in charge since RTD left then we could have had an extra two series by 2017 to what we will have had.

So claim 'rubbish' at my accusation of Moffat being less deidcated to the show than RTD if you wish, but in my opinion, everything about Moffats time seems self evident that it is precisely the case.
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Old 06-06-2016, 21:18
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It's nothing to do with what I think of the substance of his era, but everything to do with the fact of the stop/start nature of the show over the course of his era.

From series split over two years, to the present where we have no series at all this year, there has been no consistency, which makes me and others wistful for the days of series 1-4 when you could count on a new full series starting in spring every year like clockwork. The time of day the episodes aired didn't even differ half as much then as they have since.

Some people might try and claim that it's all the BBC, but when RTD delivered consistency under the same constraints, then I have to believe that Moffat is simply not as dedicated.

Hope Chibnall can bring back the consistency we had with the RTD era.
Except for 2009, when he refused to do a fifth series. Sure, there were the specials, but the only thing stopping him from doing a fifth series for 2009 was that he didn't want to.

But I'm not bashing him for it. It's a respectful decision, I think. The man knew where he wanted to finish and he didn't let the obsessive routine of television ruin that.

Yes, there's been a bit of bad luck with scheduling in recent years. Moffat has exasperated before how grueling it is to work on Doctor Who and how it was often a miracle it was done in time. But hey, it's easy for the consumer to demand.

The S7 split, I believe, was something Moffat was not happy with, but one he had no control over. It's common knowledge however that he worked himself half to death to try and make the 50th something he hoped the fans could appreciate, as well as get it out on time. The split this year is Moffat agreeing to one more series to tide over the transition between him and Chibnall, so that the show doesn't vanish throughout two whole years.

I think your views of his era are having something of an influence in how you judge the situation.
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Old 06-06-2016, 21:27
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Except for 2009, when he refused to do a fifth series. Sure, there were the specials, but the only thing stopping him from doing a fifth series for 2009 was that he didn't want to.

But I'm not bashing him for it. It's a respectful decision, I think. The man knew where he wanted to finish and he didn't let the obsessive routine of television ruin that.

Yes, there's been a bit of bad luck with scheduling in recent years. Moffat has exasperated before how grueling it is to work on Doctor Who and how it was often a miracle it was done in time. But hey, it's easy for the consumer to demand.

The S7 split, I believe, was something Moffat was not happy with, but one he had no control over. It's common knowledge however that he worked himself half to death to try and make the 50th something he hoped the fans could appreciate, as well as get it out on time. The split this year is Moffat agreeing to one more series to tide over the transition between him and Chibnall, so that the show doesn't vanish throughout two whole years.

I think your views of his era are having something of an influence in how you judge the situation.
Not really. I haven't brought up anything regarding the substance of his era, and have been merely sticking to the subject of the consistency or lack thereof, which we have had episodes in comparison to the RTD era.

I don't consider RTD and the 2009 specials the same thing at all, because after 4 years of scheduling consistency, after he decided to leave he still made sure there wasn't a single year that he was in charge that we didn't get multiple episodes.

I conceed and agree with the fact that it is good of Moffat to stay on for series 10 to keep the show going before Chibnall can start, but it still doesn't affect what I think of how dedicated he has been to the show over the entirety of his time in charge.
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Old 06-06-2016, 21:35
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Not much of a surprise, but news none the less - Gatiss confimed to be writing at least one episode of series 10.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...-who-series-10
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Old 06-06-2016, 21:58
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But hey, it's easy for the consumer to demand.
Exactly.

But some doctor Who fans have an extremely childish perspective, which when you think about it is not surprising, as having their favourite thing be the same thing it was in their childhood does tend to suggest a lack of intellectual and / or emotional development.

I'd be interested to know what amazing dedication to anything doctor blue box has had in his life and what he's achieved. Then we can all pick it apart and criticize it despite knowing nothing about the circumstances or the fella's life... just as he feels entitled to do with Steven Moffat.
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Old 06-06-2016, 22:03
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Exactly.

But some doctor Who fans have an extremely childish perspective, which when you think about it is not surprising, as having their favourite thing be the same thing it was in their childhood does tend to suggest a lack of intellectual development.
So every adult who likes doctor who is lacking in intellectual development?

I think with that comment you basically just insulted pretty much everyone on the forum.

Plus, for me personally, It isn't the same thing I liked in my childhood, because the show wasn't on during my childhood.
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Old 06-06-2016, 22:08
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So every adult who likes doctor who is lacking in intellectual development?

I think with that comment you basically just insulted pretty much everyone on the forum.

Plus, for me personally, It isn't the same thing I liked in my childhood, because the show wasn't on during my childhood.

I think an adult who has a fan-level attachment to the show which blinds them to any sense of logic or rationality is lacking in intellectual development yes.

And yes, you are being utterly irrational because you are claiming to know the personal motivation and attitude of a man you don't know and whose personal life you know nothing whatsoever about. You believe you know what happens behind the scenes of the show when you in fact don't. That is actual delusion.

If that happens to insult anyone... if the shoes fits.

I could instead just say... grow up. Act your age. Stop whining like a spoiled, entitled child who thinks he has it owed to him to have talented, accomplished professionals spend their lives and careers pandering to his personal whims. That's the tone of everything you write here. It's banal and tedious.
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Old 06-06-2016, 22:26
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It might be an age thing to a certain extent? If you became a fan in 2005, you would get used to a certain number of episodes a year and expect that to continue ad infinitum. Which besides the soaps doesn't tend to happen with any other Drama series on British TV...or it's certainly rare anyway. (definitely when we're looking at a Drama series which is over 10 years old and still on going....in C21 anyway.)

I'm getting on a bit and became a fan in 1982, so went through the delay between Season 22 and 23, including the large reduction in 'screen time' during said break, and then basically thought the show was finished after Season 26 (bar the McGann one off) so was just rather amazed when it came back on screen 16 years later! So probably am a bit more blasé (wrong word. Um, 'accepting'?) about events since the Series 7 split. (was fine with the 'summer break' for Series 6; personally thought that worked rather well; Spring start; break; back in Autumn; break; Xmas episode)

In an ideal world I'd want at least 13 episodes a year of my favourite programme, but...well, it ain't an ideal world. Stuff happens. Hell, in an ideal world I'd be wanting the number of episodes they were broadcasting in the Sixties! Have a word, Capaldi. Do it "as live". (He'd probably be up for that, actually!)

eta A few other posts have appeared since writing this essay! I am not trying to be mean or patronising...just stream of consciousness. Peace. ("You're just an ageing hippie..." - Ace)
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Old 06-06-2016, 22:31
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I think an adult who has a fan-level attachment to the show which blinds them to any sense of logic or rationality is lacking in intellectual development yes.

And yes, you are being utterly irrational because you are claiming to know the personal motivation and attitude of a man you don't know and whose personal life you know nothing whatsoever about. You believe you know what happens behind the scenes of the show when you in fact don't. That is actual delusion.

If that happens to insult anyone... if the shoes fits.

I could instead just say... grow up. Act your age. Stop whining like a spoiled, entitled child who thinks he has it owed to him to have talented, accomplished professionals spend their lives and careers pandering to his personal whims. That's the tone of everything you write here. It's banal and tedious.
Well firstly, I never claimed to know the personal motivation of anyone - just simply stating an opinion of what I perceive based on the evidence.

Secondly, if you think it's appropriate to start getting personal and insulting to other users over an opinion based discussion on a tv show, as though you are actually angry at my expression of an opinion, then that suggests it isn't me who needs to 'grow up'.
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Old 06-06-2016, 22:37
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It might be an age thing to a certain extent? If you became a fan in 2005, you would get used to a certain number of episodes a year and expect that to continue ad infinitum. Which besides the soaps doesn't tend to happen with any other Drama series on British TV...or it's certainly rare anyway. (definitely when we're looking at a Drama series which is over 10 years old and still on going....in C21 anyway.)

I'm getting on a bit and became a fan in 1982, so went through the delay between Season 22 and 23, including the large reduction in 'screen time' during said break, and then basically thought the show was finished after Season 26 (bar the McGann one off) so was just rather amazed when it came back on screen 16 years later! So probably am a bit more blasé (wrong word. Um, 'accepting'?) about events since the Series 7 split. (was fine with the 'summer break' for Series 6; personally thought that worked rather well; Spring start; break; back in Autumn; break; Xmas episode)

In an ideal world I'd want at least 13 episodes a year of my favourite programme, but...well, it ain't an ideal world. Stuff happens. Hell, in an ideal world I'd be wanting the number of episodes they were broadcasting in the Sixties! Have a word, Capaldi. Do it "as live". (He'd probably be up for that, actually!)

eta A few other posts have appeared since writing this essay! I am not trying to be mean or patronising...just stream of consciousness. Peace. ("You're just an ageing hippie..." - Ace)
Looks like my other TV show, Game of Thrones, the only other one I actually keep up with now that isn't Doctor Who, is being cut shorter for its last few seasons. One of the disadvantages of television, really, in that everything is so controlled.

I was also a fan of the S6 split for DW. I prefer an autumn airtime, but it was nice having the show run through the year a little more evenly rather than "it's here... aaaaand it's gone"
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Old 06-06-2016, 22:49
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Looks like my other TV show, Game of Thrones, the only other one I actually keep up with now that isn't Doctor Who, is being cut shorter for its last few seasons. One of the disadvantages of television, really, in that everything is so controlled.
I was also a fan of the S6 split for DW. I prefer an autumn airtime, but it was nice having the show run through the year a little more evenly rather than "it's here... aaaaand it's gone"
The split was an interesting idea at the time, and as others have said recently, whatever you think of Moffats time, you can't accuse him of not trying new things.

Ultimately though, I think I prefer the nice long run where you really feel you had a good dose of who, and if you have a spring start, then you get the Christmas special at a separate end of the year to the series and it so it still feels like it has a presence in different parts of the year.
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Old 06-06-2016, 23:08
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Capaldi, Coleman and Gomez were at Awesome Con this weekend,
They had a panel and let slip on a few things,
One being that PCap recently shot something to do with Clara, could be a documentary, a minisode, anything really.
He also almost let slip about something which he said he wasn't supposed to after he almost did.
He also think the memory wipe of Clara wasn't successful (the script posted on the web also says he remembers when he sees the painting on the TARDIS)

And lastly, I did see (however can't find ) a Mirror article saying that Peter to leave in 2017, fresh start for Chinball, take it with a pinch of salt, probably usual nonsense, however, they have got a lot in previous one to two years correct ...
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Old 07-06-2016, 16:20
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Capaldi, Coleman and Gomez were at Awesome Con this weekend,
They had a panel and let slip on a few things,
One being that PCap recently shot something to do with Clara, could be a documentary, a minisode, anything really.
He also almost let slip about something which he said he wasn't supposed to after he almost did.
He also think the memory wipe of Clara wasn't successful (the script posted on the web also says he remembers when he sees the painting on the TARDIS)

And lastly, I did see (however can't find ) a Mirror article saying that Peter to leave in 2017, fresh start for Chinball, take it with a pinch of salt, probably usual nonsense, however, they have got a lot in previous one to two years correct ...
Hope none of the Clara stuff is true as I really did hope we were done with her.

Plus, wouldn't it be unfair to overshadow pearl with a storyline remembering Clara in the very same way that some Martha plans claimed the doctor still pining for Rose in series 3 overshadowed her.

Also, regarding the 'Peter leaving' article, i'm sure there have been a fair few of those since the end of series 9 and the announcement of Moffat leaving. They seem to be based on people's assumptions that Chibnall will logically want to start with someone new, rather than any sort of evidence that it is the case. Plus they know when they print these things theyhave a 50/50 chance of being right.

I'd say take any Peter leaving/New doctor starting articles with a huge, truckload of salt unless they quote, Capaldi himself, Moffat, Chibnall, or any official person who works for the BBC.
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Old 08-06-2016, 15:51
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Not much of a surprise, but news none the less - Gatiss confimed to be writing at least one episode of series 10.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...-who-series-10
If we're lucky, it'll be better than his last effort but I kind of hope that he's used a lot less in Chibnall's era and newer writers are chosen over him.
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Old 08-06-2016, 16:02
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It really is a cycle of diminishing returns with Gattis - 2005's The Unquiet Dead was wonderful but since then we've been spiraling downwards, and last year's Sleep No More was rock bottom. I cannot see why he is commissioned each year.
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Old 08-06-2016, 17:06
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The Unquiet Dead is definitely his best effort, although I'm a bit biased because I'm a Charles Dickens fanboi.

The Idiot's Lantern is worst for me, followed by Robots of Sherwood. Personally, I think Sleep No More looks a masterpiece in comparison to those. I don't dread the idea of a sequel to it, but I'm not particularly excited either.

It's strange, since Gatiss is much more consistently good in his non-television Doctor Who stories, and also a brilliant writer in general. I don't know what it is about writing for Doctor Who on the TV that brings out his bad side.
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Old 08-06-2016, 19:04
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Oh dear, reading a possible return for Clara (I wasn't a fan by the way) and then the return of Mark Gatiss for next year hardly fills me with joy ahead of the next series.

Like others, I honestly don't get why Gatiss keeps getting episodes commissioned. They are in my opinion always a low point in any series. I know he's best buds with Moffat, so say no more, but even then surely there has to be more consideration than just being mates with the man.

It sort of adds to that feeling of its who you know, not what you know!

(Also hoping the next series will be an improvement. The last couple I've not at all been keen on if I'm honest!)
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