Moto G4 and Moto G4 Plus 2016

Denco1 · 24-05-2016, 21:23

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Is the fast charger just a 2A version?

The TurboCharger is a Qualcomm quick charge 2.0 adapter.

barker71 · 24-05-2016, 21:42

For the cash it actually looks quite good will be interesting to see what the Moto z is priced at but also what the full reviews of the g4 plus say - torn between the moto g4 plus and a nexus 5x now!

jonmorris · 24-05-2016, 21:59

Everyone I know who has got a 5X has been disappointed. Not sure exactly what LG did wrong, or why, but be aware.

I've got a G5 at the moment and that also underwhelms me. The fingerprint reader for one is nothing like as good as on my Nexus 6P, Honor 7, Honor 5X or Huawei P9 (notice a common theme there!).

Zebb · 24-05-2016, 22:03

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Originally Posted by Denco1

The TurboCharger is a Qualcomm quick charge 2.0 adapter.

That comes as standard on the Plus, wonder if it's available as an accessory from Moto?

Denco1 · 24-05-2016, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Zebb

That comes as standard on the Plus, wonder if it's available as an accessory from Moto?

http://www.motorola.co.uk/power-uk/T...argers-uk.html
I wouldn't recommend paying those high prices for a Motorola branded charger though.

jonmorris · 24-05-2016, 22:27

Aukey/Anker/Choetech and others make very affordable Quick Charge 2.0 and 3.0 chargers, battery packs etc.

Zebb · 24-05-2016, 22:30

That's good to know. Quick search found the car one for £9.99, free delivery.

jonmorris · 24-05-2016, 22:41

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Originally Posted by Zebb

That's good to know. Quick search found the car one for £9.99, free delivery.

That's a good price, but maybe search Amazon for a QC3.0 one for future proofing? It's backwardly compatible, so it's one less thing to change in the future when you get a new phone.

Here are a few: https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb....0+car+charger

Denco1 · 24-05-2016, 22:56

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Originally Posted by jonmorris

That's a good price, but maybe search Amazon for a QC3.0 one for future proofing? It's backwardly compatible, so it's one less thing to change in the future when you get a new phone.

Here are a few: https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb....0+car+charger

I think the current G4/Plus might even be Quick Charge 3.0 capable.

shaddler · 25-05-2016, 00:21

Too big, and the Moto G series is creeping up in price.

swb1964 · 25-05-2016, 06:14

Yes I think they started around the 129 pound mark?

As for size, I'd certainly give 5.5 inches a try but that is about as big as I would go.

jonmorris · 25-05-2016, 08:13

I think the original thinking by Motorola was that the price point would remain fairly static (bar inflation, tax rises etc) and the specs would just improve as time went on.

Now it seems the specs are increasing, but so is the price - by quite a bit.

I do believe the Moto G is trying to move from where it was originally pitched, as a decent mid-range phone at a low-end price. When the Moto E came out, it enabled the price to creep up and now I wonder if Lenovo knows what it is doing.

You almost have the G series trying to take over the cheaper X series models (as the X becomes the Z) and the E series can take over where the G was, except I am not sure there will be another E series? Perhaps Lenovo plans to use its own name for the next lot of cheap phones?

The problem these days is that in such a saturated market, it seems crazy to launch a large portfolio of devices as against a few key ones. Low end, mid-range, high-end, done. Then release them every 12 months. At least MotoMaker allows some customisation, but three Moto G models? That seems silly.

shaddler · 25-05-2016, 09:04

It seems the G4 Play will be the their 'budget' model. At 5", 720p, Snapdragon 410 and 2GB RAM it's similar to my Wileyfox Swift which costs £129. The Play has an 8MP camera instead of the 13MP on the Swift but its battery is slightly better at 2800 mah compared to the Swift's 2500. The Swift also has a notification LED, not sure if the Play will. I'd be surprised if it was priced over £130.

Zebb · 25-05-2016, 10:43

At the moment the 4th gen would be a step backwards for 3 network users. My 1st gen 4G phone can use the 800MHz band using 3inT and so get the extra coverage but this one can't.

These new G phones seem overpriced for what they offer, why omit NFC and use an old SoC? Can't think they'll be big sellers like the original ones, unless they drop the price. There is a 'secret' white LED near the fingerprint reader on the Plus but only seems to come on for a second when the power lead is attached.

Should have kept to 5" or less IMO.

barker71 · 25-05-2016, 16:43

Ah didnt realise it couldnt do 800mhz thats a huge shame, making me think of not getting it now

Zebb · 25-05-2016, 16:56

It is capable of 800MHz but 3 is odd in regards which phones can use it.

barker71 · 25-05-2016, 16:58

Oh really? It says 850 on the specs? Also any idea if VoLTE will work on this / wifi calling on ee?

packages · 25-05-2016, 17:12

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Originally Posted by barker71

Oh really? It says 850 on the specs? Also any idea if VoLTE will work on this / wifi calling on ee?

The XT1644 (which I'm guessing is the model we'll get) uses LTE bands 1(2100), 3(1800), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800)

Wi-Fi Calling and VoLTE - Short Term No, Medium to long term - Yes

ianlawn · 25-05-2016, 17:15

So moto e is changing to moto infinity
moto x is moto z

and there is a moto g play, moto g and moto g plus.

They really know how to confuse

carcass · 26-05-2016, 12:00

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carcass · 26-05-2016, 12:09

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Originally Posted by carcass

http://fudzilla.com/news/mobile/4074...-get-android-o
http://fudzilla.com/media/k2/items/c...1daf0afc_L.jpg

A nice picture of a flyer for the Moto G4 Plus has hinted that the Moto G4 might have the support for two new Android OS’, the Android N that comes this fall and Android O that comes in late 2017.

jonmorris · 26-05-2016, 14:12

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Originally Posted by carcass

A nice picture of a flyer for the Moto G4 Plus has hinted that the Moto G4 might have the support for two new Android OS’, the Android N that comes this fall and Android O that comes in late 2017.

Google asks manufacturers to support a device for 18 months, so it stands to reason it will support N (due out late this year) and O which will likely seed to developers around the same time as N did this year.

In a way, it's possibly better to say Android O specifically, than just saying 'supported for nn months' but it still seems a little odd.

Zebb · 26-05-2016, 21:19

Moto Z sneek peek; http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_z_droid...news-18436.php

barker71 · 28-05-2016, 13:11

Also see that Samsung have just announced the Galaxy c5 which seems to be same price point with NFC included too.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gala...news-18431.php

Will be interesting to see if the camera is as good as the moto, as if so that what Ill be getting!

Zebb · 28-05-2016, 14:11

According to Moto UK, both the G4 Plus and G4 are dual SIM as standard but the G4 Play is single SIM.

More info.

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Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by Zebb Is the fast charger just a 2A version? The TurboCharger is a Qualcomm quick charge 2.0 adapter.

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24-05-2016, 21:42	#27
barker71 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 462	For the cash it actually looks quite good will be interesting to see what the Moto z is priced at but also what the full reviews of the g4 plus say - torn between the moto g4 plus and a nexus 5x now!

24-05-2016, 21:59	#28
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Everyone I know who has got a 5X has been disappointed. Not sure exactly what LG did wrong, or why, but be aware. I've got a G5 at the moment and that also underwhelms me. The fingerprint reader for one is nothing like as good as on my Nexus 6P, Honor 7, Honor 5X or Huawei P9 (notice a common theme there!).

24-05-2016, 22:03	#29
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	Quote: Originally Posted by Denco1 The TurboCharger is a Qualcomm quick charge 2.0 adapter. That comes as standard on the Plus, wonder if it's available as an accessory from Moto?

24-05-2016, 22:16	#30
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by Zebb That comes as standard on the Plus, wonder if it's available as an accessory from Moto? http://www.motorola.co.uk/power-uk/T...argers-uk.html I wouldn't recommend paying those high prices for a Motorola branded charger though.

24-05-2016, 22:27	#31
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Aukey/Anker/Choetech and others make very affordable Quick Charge 2.0 and 3.0 chargers, battery packs etc.

24-05-2016, 22:30	#32
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	That's good to know. Quick search found the car one for £9.99, free delivery.

24-05-2016, 22:41	#33
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by Zebb That's good to know. Quick search found the car one for £9.99, free delivery. That's a good price, but maybe search Amazon for a QC3.0 one for future proofing? It's backwardly compatible, so it's one less thing to change in the future when you get a new phone. Here are a few: https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb....0+car+charger

24-05-2016, 22:56	#34
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris That's a good price, but maybe search Amazon for a QC3.0 one for future proofing? It's backwardly compatible, so it's one less thing to change in the future when you get a new phone. Here are a few: https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb....0+car+charger I think the current G4/Plus might even be Quick Charge 3.0 capable.

25-05-2016, 00:21	#35
shaddler Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Station Eleven Posts: 3,489	Too big, and the Moto G series is creeping up in price.

25-05-2016, 06:14	#36
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	Yes I think they started around the 129 pound mark? As for size, I'd certainly give 5.5 inches a try but that is about as big as I would go.

25-05-2016, 08:13	#37
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	I think the original thinking by Motorola was that the price point would remain fairly static (bar inflation, tax rises etc) and the specs would just improve as time went on. Now it seems the specs are increasing, but so is the price - by quite a bit. I do believe the Moto G is trying to move from where it was originally pitched, as a decent mid-range phone at a low-end price. When the Moto E came out, it enabled the price to creep up and now I wonder if Lenovo knows what it is doing. You almost have the G series trying to take over the cheaper X series models (as the X becomes the Z) and the E series can take over where the G was, except I am not sure there will be another E series? Perhaps Lenovo plans to use its own name for the next lot of cheap phones? The problem these days is that in such a saturated market, it seems crazy to launch a large portfolio of devices as against a few key ones. Low end, mid-range, high-end, done. Then release them every 12 months. At least MotoMaker allows some customisation, but three Moto G models? That seems silly.

25-05-2016, 09:04	#38
shaddler Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Station Eleven Posts: 3,489	It seems the G4 Play will be the their 'budget' model. At 5", 720p, Snapdragon 410 and 2GB RAM it's similar to my Wileyfox Swift which costs £129. The Play has an 8MP camera instead of the 13MP on the Swift but its battery is slightly better at 2800 mah compared to the Swift's 2500. The Swift also has a notification LED, not sure if the Play will. I'd be surprised if it was priced over £130.

25-05-2016, 10:43	#39
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	At the moment the 4th gen would be a step backwards for 3 network users. My 1st gen 4G phone can use the 800MHz band using 3inT and so get the extra coverage but this one can't. These new G phones seem overpriced for what they offer, why omit NFC and use an old SoC? Can't think they'll be big sellers like the original ones, unless they drop the price. There is a 'secret' white LED near the fingerprint reader on the Plus but only seems to come on for a second when the power lead is attached. Should have kept to 5" or less IMO.

25-05-2016, 16:43	#40
barker71 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 462	Ah didnt realise it couldnt do 800mhz thats a huge shame, making me think of not getting it now

25-05-2016, 16:56	#41
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	It is capable of 800MHz but 3 is odd in regards which phones can use it.

25-05-2016, 16:58	#42
barker71 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 462	Oh really? It says 850 on the specs? Also any idea if VoLTE will work on this / wifi calling on ee?

25-05-2016, 17:12	#43
packages Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 879	Quote: Originally Posted by barker71 Oh really? It says 850 on the specs? Also any idea if VoLTE will work on this / wifi calling on ee? The XT1644 (which I'm guessing is the model we'll get) uses LTE bands 1(2100), 3(1800), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800) Wi-Fi Calling and VoLTE - Short Term No, Medium to long term - Yes

25-05-2016, 17:15	#44
ianlawn Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 900	So moto e is changing to moto infinity moto x is moto z and there is a moto g play, moto g and moto g plus. They really know how to confuse

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carcass Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 102	Quote: Originally Posted by carcass http://fudzilla.com/news/mobile/4074...-get-android-o http://fudzilla.com/media/k2/items/c...1daf0afc_L.jpg A nice picture of a flyer for the Moto G4 Plus has hinted that the Moto G4 might have the support for two new Android OS’, the Android N that comes this fall and Android O that comes in late 2017.

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26-05-2016, 14:12	#47
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by carcass A nice picture of a flyer for the Moto G4 Plus has hinted that the Moto G4 might have the support for two new Android OS’, the Android N that comes this fall and Android O that comes in late 2017. Google asks manufacturers to support a device for 18 months, so it stands to reason it will support N (due out late this year) and O which will likely seed to developers around the same time as N did this year. In a way, it's possibly better to say Android O specifically, than just saying 'supported for nn months' but it still seems a little odd.

26-05-2016, 21:19	#48
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	Moto Z sneek peek; http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_z_droid...news-18436.php

28-05-2016, 13:11	#49
barker71 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 462	Also see that Samsung have just announced the Galaxy c5 which seems to be same price point with NFC included too. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gala...news-18431.php Will be interesting to see if the camera is as good as the moto, as if so that what Ill be getting!

28-05-2016, 14:11	#50
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	According to Moto UK, both the G4 Plus and G4 are dual SIM as standard but the G4 Play is single SIM. More info.