Moto G4 and Moto G4 Plus 2016

TheVoid · 05-06-2016, 20:05

I really want to get this, but again the lack of NFC is worrying

Zebb · 11-06-2016, 17:39

Retailers like Tesco, Clove, Handtec now have these 4th Gen Moto Gs but mainly they are single SIMs, with some dual SIM models in white. Current theory is that Motorola UK are selling European dual SIM models. But, 3inT only works on single SIM phones.

Denco1 · 11-06-2016, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebb

But, 3inT only works on single SIM phones.

That's not correct, or at least through my own experience. I'm not sure on Three's official line however.

Zebb · 11-06-2016, 17:53

That info was from Three's blog and here.

Denco1 · 11-06-2016, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebb

That info was from Three's blog and here.

I guess Three cannot guarantee support for dual sim phones, but myself and others have had no problems using a dual sim phone and 3inT, as long as the Three sim is the primary sim.

Faust · 12-06-2016, 10:28

Surely the fact that it doesn't have NFC kills the phone dead as a buying proposition?

alanwarwic · 12-06-2016, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faust

Surely the fact that it doesn't have NFC kills the phone dead as a buying proposition?

I removed my card from my G2.

Whilst it worked fine I simply do not need multi choices in how I use contactless.
Of course, if your bank has not supplied you with a contactless card I can see that it is neccessary there.

Talking of neccessity, the new upcoming Motos have the headphone socket removed.
That looks like something for manufacturers benefit, maybe forcing BT etc is all about DRM ?

d123 · 12-06-2016, 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Talking of neccessity, the new upcoming Motos have the headphone socket removed.
That looks like something for manufacturers benefit, maybe forcing BT etc is all about DRM ?

So do Motorola have the specifications wrong on their website?

Quote:

Moto g4 plus
Connectivity
Micro USB, 3.5 mm headset jack

http://www.motorola.co.uk/products/m...lus_Learn_More

Quote:

Moto g4
Connectivity
Micro USB, 3.5 mm headset jack

http://www.motorola.co.uk/products/m...o_G_Learn_More

swb1964 · 12-06-2016, 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faust

Surely the fact that it doesn't have NFC kills the phone dead as a buying proposition?

I don't know what NFC is and I don't care either (or else I would google it)

I doubt 90% of mid range phone buyers care either.

If it's important to you, then obviously this isn't the phone for you, but that doesn't mean anyone else cares...

alanwarwic · 12-06-2016, 13:01

I was referring to the new range, that being the Z.

jonmorris · 12-06-2016, 14:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by swb1964

I don't know what NFC is and I don't care either (or else I would google it)

I doubt 90% of mid range phone buyers care either.

If it's important to you, then obviously this isn't the phone for you, but that doesn't mean anyone else cares...

If you didn't know what it is, how can you know you don't care?

swb1964 · 12-06-2016, 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

If you didn't know what it is, how can you know you don't care?

Because phones already do everything I need/want them to do.

jonmorris · 12-06-2016, 17:36

Ignorance is bliss.

I expect soon, as more people see others paying with their phones, they'll begin to ask if they can too.

Then they'll care.

d123 · 12-06-2016, 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

I was referring to the new range, that being the Z.

The Z has a 3.5mm adapter included with it, so it isn't BT only.

Quote:

Connectivity
Moto Mods™ connector
USB-C port for headphones, charging and data transfer
3.5mm to USB-C headphone port adapter included

https://www.motorola.com/us/products...-droid-edition

However, there is a thread for the future Z, probably better to keep this thread on topic and use the other thread for the Z.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...7#post82695957

alanwarwic · 19-06-2016, 11:00

The street price is hitting £150 now. The Guardian described it as being not so budget, without mentioning the £169 rrp is for a phone matching and beating(1080p screen) the comparable £209 rrp Moto G. The base £159 Moto G v3 had 1GB Ram and 8GB of memory as did the older £150 Moto G 2014.

I guess it will never be as budget(£100 occasionally as a street price) as earlier versions, fewer people, at least in the UK, seeing it a big upgrade from the phone we have now.

I wonder if we get a 720p Moto E? That I now dare to mention.

reg shaw · 19-06-2016, 19:12

Got hold of the basic G4. Actually in real world, it's a decent phone for someone who isn't interested in Android Pay etc. Snappy performance for the price and camera is good. Fast shutter, good quality. Impressive.

ags_rule · 19-06-2016, 19:32

My contract runs out in a few days time and I can get this on an upgrade from my current phone (Moto G 4G) for the same price.

Simple question - is it worth it? Or are there better alternatives for around the same price? I'm happy to spend around £15 a month on a contract.

alanwarwic · 24-06-2016, 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheVoid

I really want to get this, but again the lack of NFC is worrying

Worth noting that Argos currently have the high end Nexus 5x at £180.

For most people the 5x is a better phone

jonmorris · 24-06-2016, 19:04

Yeah, even today it's a cracking phone and even the chipset is perfectly fine for most people. With native Android, the user interface is slick all the time.

Camera isn't bad either, plus wireless charging.

Zebb · 24-06-2016, 19:22

How do you get it for £180, their website has it for £269.95.
Edit, oops, looking at the 32GB not the 16GB.

Ah, no card slot.

jonmorris · 24-06-2016, 19:32

Yes, that is the downside.

Zebb · 24-06-2016, 19:39

Price drop because of two new LG phones?

jonmorris · 24-06-2016, 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebb

Price drop because of two new LG phones?

Bit early. They'll be released with Android N won't they? And that doesn't come until the autumn.

Zebb · 24-06-2016, 23:13

HTC not LG Nexus, before someone points that out. Just rumours at this time.

These new Moto G4s seem to have a lot of troubles, going by complaints in it's Moto forum.
Overheating, screen faults, ghost touch, software issues, freezes and hangs.

Still waiting to see if there's any picture quality difference between the G4 and G4 plus, not bothered by the 3MP. Does one have OIS and the other doesn't?

Forum posts seems to be playing up.

Zebb · 30-06-2016, 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

Bit early. They'll be released with Android N won't they? And that doesn't come until the autumn.

http://www.gsmarena.com/55inch_htc_n...news-19141.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/android_n_is...news-19138.php

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05-06-2016, 20:05	#76
TheVoid Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,642	I really want to get this, but again the lack of NFC is worrying

11-06-2016, 17:39	#77
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	Retailers like Tesco, Clove, Handtec now have these 4th Gen Moto Gs but mainly they are single SIMs, with some dual SIM models in white. Current theory is that Motorola UK are selling European dual SIM models. But, 3inT only works on single SIM phones.

11-06-2016, 17:49	#78
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by Zebb But, 3inT only works on single SIM phones. That's not correct, or at least through my own experience. I'm not sure on Three's official line however.

11-06-2016, 17:53	#79
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	That info was from Three's blog and here.

11-06-2016, 19:12	#80
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by Zebb That info was from Three's blog and here. I guess Three cannot guarantee support for dual sim phones, but myself and others have had no problems using a dual sim phone and 3inT, as long as the Three sim is the primary sim.

12-06-2016, 10:28	#81
Faust Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: UK Posts: 8,103	Surely the fact that it doesn't have NFC kills the phone dead as a buying proposition?

12-06-2016, 12:01	#82
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by Faust Surely the fact that it doesn't have NFC kills the phone dead as a buying proposition? I removed my card from my G2. Whilst it worked fine I simply do not need multi choices in how I use contactless. Of course, if your bank has not supplied you with a contactless card I can see that it is neccessary there. Talking of neccessity, the new upcoming Motos have the headphone socket removed. That looks like something for manufacturers benefit, maybe forcing BT etc is all about DRM ?

12-06-2016, 12:13	#83
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Talking of neccessity, the new upcoming Motos have the headphone socket removed. That looks like something for manufacturers benefit, maybe forcing BT etc is all about DRM ? So do Motorola have the specifications wrong on their website? Quote: Moto g4 plus Connectivity Micro USB, 3.5 mm headset jack http://www.motorola.co.uk/products/m...lus_Learn_More Quote: Moto g4 Connectivity Micro USB, 3.5 mm headset jack http://www.motorola.co.uk/products/m...o_G_Learn_More

12-06-2016, 12:42	#84
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	Quote: Originally Posted by Faust Surely the fact that it doesn't have NFC kills the phone dead as a buying proposition? I don't know what NFC is and I don't care either (or else I would google it) I doubt 90% of mid range phone buyers care either. If it's important to you, then obviously this isn't the phone for you, but that doesn't mean anyone else cares...

12-06-2016, 13:01	#85
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	I was referring to the new range, that being the Z.

12-06-2016, 14:12	#86
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by swb1964 I don't know what NFC is and I don't care either (or else I would google it) I doubt 90% of mid range phone buyers care either. If it's important to you, then obviously this isn't the phone for you, but that doesn't mean anyone else cares... If you didn't know what it is, how can you know you don't care?

12-06-2016, 14:36	#87
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris If you didn't know what it is, how can you know you don't care? Because phones already do everything I need/want them to do.

12-06-2016, 17:36	#88
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Ignorance is bliss. I expect soon, as more people see others paying with their phones, they'll begin to ask if they can too. Then they'll care.

12-06-2016, 19:47	#89
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic I was referring to the new range, that being the Z. The Z has a 3.5mm adapter included with it, so it isn't BT only. Quote: Connectivity Moto Mods™ connector USB-C port for headphones, charging and data transfer 3.5mm to USB-C headphone port adapter included https://www.motorola.com/us/products...-droid-edition However, there is a thread for the future Z, probably better to keep this thread on topic and use the other thread for the Z. http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...7#post82695957

19-06-2016, 11:00	#90
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	The street price is hitting £150 now. The Guardian described it as being not so budget, without mentioning the £169 rrp is for a phone matching and beating(1080p screen) the comparable £209 rrp Moto G. The base £159 Moto G v3 had 1GB Ram and 8GB of memory as did the older £150 Moto G 2014. I guess it will never be as budget(£100 occasionally as a street price) as earlier versions, fewer people, at least in the UK, seeing it a big upgrade from the phone we have now. I wonder if we get a 720p Moto E? That I now dare to mention.

19-06-2016, 19:12	#91
reg shaw Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 37	Got hold of the basic G4. Actually in real world, it's a decent phone for someone who isn't interested in Android Pay etc. Snappy performance for the price and camera is good. Fast shutter, good quality. Impressive.

19-06-2016, 19:32	#92
ags_rule Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 7,408	My contract runs out in a few days time and I can get this on an upgrade from my current phone (Moto G 4G) for the same price. Simple question - is it worth it? Or are there better alternatives for around the same price? I'm happy to spend around £15 a month on a contract.

24-06-2016, 18:51	#93
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by TheVoid I really want to get this, but again the lack of NFC is worrying Worth noting that Argos currently have the high end Nexus 5x at £180. For most people the 5x is a better phone

24-06-2016, 19:04	#94
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Yeah, even today it's a cracking phone and even the chipset is perfectly fine for most people. With native Android, the user interface is slick all the time. Camera isn't bad either, plus wireless charging.

24-06-2016, 19:22	#95
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	How do you get it for £180, their website has it for £269.95. Edit, oops, looking at the 32GB not the 16GB. Ah, no card slot.

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24-06-2016, 19:32	#96
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Yes, that is the downside.

24-06-2016, 19:39	#97
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	Price drop because of two new LG phones?

24-06-2016, 20:20	#98
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by Zebb Price drop because of two new LG phones? Bit early. They'll be released with Android N won't they? And that doesn't come until the autumn.

24-06-2016, 23:13	#99
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	HTC not LG Nexus, before someone points that out. Just rumours at this time. These new Moto G4s seem to have a lot of troubles, going by complaints in it's Moto forum. Overheating, screen faults, ghost touch, software issues, freezes and hangs. Still waiting to see if there's any picture quality difference between the G4 and G4 plus, not bothered by the 3MP. Does one have OIS and the other doesn't? Forum posts seems to be playing up.

30-06-2016, 20:00	#100
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris Bit early. They'll be released with Android N won't they? And that doesn't come until the autumn. http://www.gsmarena.com/55inch_htc_n...news-19141.php http://www.gsmarena.com/android_n_is...news-19138.php