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Moto G4 and Moto G4 Plus 2016
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TheVoid
05-06-2016
I really want to get this, but again the lack of NFC is worrying
Zebb
11-06-2016
Retailers like Tesco, Clove, Handtec now have these 4th Gen Moto Gs but mainly they are single SIMs, with some dual SIM models in white. Current theory is that Motorola UK are selling European dual SIM models. But, 3inT only works on single SIM phones.
Denco1
11-06-2016
Originally Posted by Zebb:
“ But, 3inT only works on single SIM phones.”

That's not correct, or at least through my own experience. I'm not sure on Three's official line however.
Zebb
11-06-2016
That info was from Three's blog and here.
Denco1
11-06-2016
Originally Posted by Zebb:
“That info was from Three's blog and here.”

I guess Three cannot guarantee support for dual sim phones, but myself and others have had no problems using a dual sim phone and 3inT, as long as the Three sim is the primary sim.
Faust
12-06-2016
Surely the fact that it doesn't have NFC kills the phone dead as a buying proposition?
alanwarwic
12-06-2016
Originally Posted by Faust:
“Surely the fact that it doesn't have NFC kills the phone dead as a buying proposition?”

I removed my card from my G2.

Whilst it worked fine I simply do not need multi choices in how I use contactless.
Of course, if your bank has not supplied you with a contactless card I can see that it is neccessary there.

Talking of neccessity, the new upcoming Motos have the headphone socket removed.
That looks like something for manufacturers benefit, maybe forcing BT etc is all about DRM ?
d123
12-06-2016
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
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Talking of neccessity, the new upcoming Motos have the headphone socket removed.
That looks like something for manufacturers benefit, maybe forcing BT etc is all about DRM ?”

So do Motorola have the specifications wrong on their website?

Quote:
“Moto g4 plus
Connectivity
Micro USB, 3.5 mm headset jack”

http://www.motorola.co.uk/products/m...lus_Learn_More

Quote:
“Moto g4
Connectivity
Micro USB, 3.5 mm headset jack”

http://www.motorola.co.uk/products/m...o_G_Learn_More
swb1964
12-06-2016
Originally Posted by Faust:
“Surely the fact that it doesn't have NFC kills the phone dead as a buying proposition?”

I don't know what NFC is and I don't care either (or else I would google it)

I doubt 90% of mid range phone buyers care either.

If it's important to you, then obviously this isn't the phone for you, but that doesn't mean anyone else cares...
alanwarwic
12-06-2016
I was referring to the new range, that being the Z.
jonmorris
12-06-2016
Originally Posted by swb1964:
“I don't know what NFC is and I don't care either (or else I would google it)

I doubt 90% of mid range phone buyers care either.

If it's important to you, then obviously this isn't the phone for you, but that doesn't mean anyone else cares...”

If you didn't know what it is, how can you know you don't care?
swb1964
12-06-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“If you didn't know what it is, how can you know you don't care?”

Because phones already do everything I need/want them to do.
jonmorris
12-06-2016
Ignorance is bliss.

I expect soon, as more people see others paying with their phones, they'll begin to ask if they can too.

Then they'll care.
d123
12-06-2016
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“I was referring to the new range, that being the Z.”

The Z has a 3.5mm adapter included with it, so it isn't BT only.

Quote:
“Connectivity
Moto Mods™ connector
USB-C port for headphones, charging and data transfer
3.5mm to USB-C headphone port adapter included”

https://www.motorola.com/us/products...-droid-edition

However, there is a thread for the future Z, probably better to keep this thread on topic and use the other thread for the Z.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...7#post82695957
alanwarwic
19-06-2016
The street price is hitting £150 now. The Guardian described it as being not so budget, without mentioning the £169 rrp is for a phone matching and beating(1080p screen) the comparable £209 rrp Moto G. The base £159 Moto G v3 had 1GB Ram and 8GB of memory as did the older £150 Moto G 2014.

I guess it will never be as budget(£100 occasionally as a street price) as earlier versions, fewer people, at least in the UK, seeing it a big upgrade from the phone we have now.

I wonder if we get a 720p Moto E? That I now dare to mention.
reg shaw
19-06-2016
Got hold of the basic G4. Actually in real world, it's a decent phone for someone who isn't interested in Android Pay etc. Snappy performance for the price and camera is good. Fast shutter, good quality. Impressive.
ags_rule
19-06-2016
My contract runs out in a few days time and I can get this on an upgrade from my current phone (Moto G 4G) for the same price.

Simple question - is it worth it? Or are there better alternatives for around the same price? I'm happy to spend around £15 a month on a contract.
alanwarwic
24-06-2016
Originally Posted by TheVoid:
“I really want to get this, but again the lack of NFC is worrying”

Worth noting that Argos currently have the high end Nexus 5x at £180.

For most people the 5x is a better phone
jonmorris
24-06-2016
Yeah, even today it's a cracking phone and even the chipset is perfectly fine for most people. With native Android, the user interface is slick all the time.

Camera isn't bad either, plus wireless charging.
Zebb
24-06-2016
How do you get it for £180, their website has it for £269.95.
Edit, oops, looking at the 32GB not the 16GB.

Ah, no card slot.
jonmorris
24-06-2016
Yes, that is the downside.
Zebb
24-06-2016
Price drop because of two new LG phones?
jonmorris
24-06-2016
Originally Posted by Zebb:
“Price drop because of two new LG phones?”

Bit early. They'll be released with Android N won't they? And that doesn't come until the autumn.
Zebb
24-06-2016
HTC not LG Nexus, before someone points that out. Just rumours at this time.

These new Moto G4s seem to have a lot of troubles, going by complaints in it's Moto forum.
Overheating, screen faults, ghost touch, software issues, freezes and hangs.


Still waiting to see if there's any picture quality difference between the G4 and G4 plus, not bothered by the 3MP. Does one have OIS and the other doesn't?

Forum posts seems to be playing up.
Zebb
30-06-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Bit early. They'll be released with Android N won't they? And that doesn't come until the autumn.”

http://www.gsmarena.com/55inch_htc_n...news-19141.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/android_n_is...news-19138.php
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