Moto G4 and Moto G4 Plus 2016

1manonthebog · 30-06-2016, 20:38

Quote:

HTC not LG Nexus, before someone points that out. Just rumours at this time.

These new Moto G4s seem to have a lot of troubles, going by complaints in it's Moto forum.
Overheating, screen faults, ghost touch, software issues, freezes and hangs.

Still waiting to see if there's any picture quality difference between the G4 and G4 plus, not bothered by the 3MP. Does one have OIS and the other doesn't?

Forum posts seems to be playing up.

Thats the norm with the Moto G, I've owned them all, the only Moto G that didn't give me any issues was the 1st gen.

Orbitalzone · 01-07-2016, 22:35

I've just got a G4 Plus and it seems quite nice, no problems noted so far. Compares closely in most aspects to the Moto X Play. Comes with dual sims and a turbo charger. Screen quality is decent although whites have a slightly yellow tinge.

Michael09 · 01-07-2016, 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1manonthebog

Thats the norm with the Moto G, I've owned them all, the only Moto G that didn't give me any issues was the 1st gen.

I've owned the 1st & 3rd Gen Editions, the 1st was almost trouble free, though there was an occasional glitch with the Wi-Fi. The 3rd Gen seems to overheat quite a lot, whilst doing very little and the battery isn't the best. Its issues like that have stopped me buying the 4th Gen ones.

carcass · 01-07-2016, 23:26

GSMArena review
http://m.gsmarena.com/lenovo_moto_g4-review-1458.php
think this will be my next phone.

carcass · 01-07-2016, 23:28

double post

carcass · 01-07-2016, 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Worth noting that Argos currently have the high end Nexus 5x at £180.

For most people the 5x is a better phone

Not if they want more than 10GB of storage and need better battery life.

Michael09 · 02-07-2016, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcass

Not if they want more than 10GB of storage and need better battery life.

I've also heard that after about a month or so the performance starts to decrease with lagging on apps.

ags_rule · 06-07-2016, 17:26

I got the G4 in the end and very happy with it. £14.50 a month with Tesco Mobile which is an incredible deal.

Only two gripes:

1) Size. I do prefer a larger screen size than the original Moto G but this one just strays a little too much into phablet territory.

2) Storage. There is 16GB of storage as standard and expandable storage "up to 128GB". However, this is not the full story - the expandable storage must either be formatted as "internal", which will allow you to store apps on it, or "external", which will allow you to store music/photos/other files from a computer on it. The reason for this is that when formatted as internal storage, the Moto G4 is not recognised by any computer and so files cannot be transferred across. This is only possible when it is formatted as external storage. So, in plain speak, if you want to be able to transfer media between your phone and PC using a USB connection, then you still only have 16GB available for apps. In reality this is closer to 10GB due to the amount taken up by the OS and Google's apps. This is a very disappointing development given that the original Moto G had no problem whatsoever with this.

1manonthebog · 06-07-2016, 17:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by ags_rule

I got the G4 in the end and very happy with it. £14.50 a month with Tesco Mobile which is an incredible deal.

Only two gripes:

1) Size. I do prefer a larger screen size than the original Moto G but this one just strays a little too much into phablet territory.

2) Storage. There is 16GB of storage as standard and expandable storage "up to 128GB". However, this is not the full story - the expandable storage must either be formatted as "internal", which will allow you to store apps on it, or "external", which will allow you to store music/photos/other files from a computer on it. The reason for this is that when formatted as internal storage, the Moto G4 is not recognised by any computer and so files cannot be transferred across. This is only possible when it is formatted as external storage. So, in plain speak, if you want to be able to transfer media between your phone and PC using a USB connection, then you still only have 16GB available for apps. In reality this is closer to 10GB due to the amount taken up by the OS and Google's apps. This is a very disappointing development given that the original Moto G had no problem whatsoever with this.

This is to do with Android 6.0.1 not Motorola.

daydotz · 06-07-2016, 19:00

Does the G4 have tap to wake/sleep ?

Thanks

Denco1 · 06-07-2016, 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by daydotz

Does the G4 have tap to wake/sleep ?

Thanks

Yes it does.

Michael09 · 06-07-2016, 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by ags_rule

I got the G4 in the end and very happy with it. £14.50 a month with Tesco Mobile which is an incredible deal.

Only two gripes:

1) Size. I do prefer a larger screen size than the original Moto G but this one just strays a little too much into phablet territory.

2) Storage. There is 16GB of storage as standard and expandable storage "up to 128GB". However, this is not the full story - the expandable storage must either be formatted as "internal", which will allow you to store apps on it, or "external", which will allow you to store music/photos/other files from a computer on it. The reason for this is that when formatted as internal storage, the Moto G4 is not recognised by any computer and so files cannot be transferred across. This is only possible when it is formatted as external storage. So, in plain speak, if you want to be able to transfer media between your phone and PC using a USB connection, then you still only have 16GB available for apps. In reality this is closer to 10GB due to the amount taken up by the OS and Google's apps. This is a very disappointing development given that the original Moto G had no problem whatsoever with this.

I have the 3rd Gen on Marshmallow and also have the 16GB one and do find the memory card issue a little annoying. Though I have recently placed an order for the 4th Gen but with 32GB storage, so that should make it better for me

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ags_rule · 07-07-2016, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1manonthebog

This is to do with Android 6.0.1 not Motorola.

Fair enough - a bizarre move from Android then! Flexible expandable storage was always one of the biggest selling points over the iPhone - seems odd to do anything against that now.

Denco1 · 07-07-2016, 08:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by daydotz

Does the G4 have tap to wake/sleep ?

Thanks

Sorry brain freeze, I thought we were talking about the LG G4 and not the Moto G4

No the Moto G4 doesn't have DT2W, but it does have Moto display.

daydotz · 07-07-2016, 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denco1

Sorry brain freeze, I thought we were talking about the LG G4 and not the Moto G4

No the Moto G4 doesn't have DT2W, but it does have Moto display.

Thanks for clearing that up

Orbitalzone · 08-07-2016, 20:08

I mentioned this in the other thread about dual sims, - my Moto G4 Plus dual sim allows both sim cards to operate in 3G mode (or 4G and 3G) at the same time which is not common on dual simmers.

So this means Sim1 can be on EE for voice+data in 3G or 4G mode and Sim2 can be 3G on Three network for voice only. Previously on the Three Sim could be voice+data as the other sim reverts to 2G which they don't support.

You can decide which Sim is for voice+data (4G/3G/2G) and which sim is voice (3G or 2G) - but importantly both sims can be in 3G at the same time.

Phone seems nice but am waiting to check out the overheating issue, if it's bad like some say.... I did find recently I turned on the camera, after 30 seconds of view finder operating (not taking pics or video) the phone froze and rebooted itself and the back top left was warmer than I'd expect. Hope this isn't an ongoing issue.

jonmorris · 08-07-2016, 20:59

What chipset is it?

Michael09 · 08-07-2016, 21:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

What chipset is it?

According to specs it's a Qualcomm MSM8952 Snapdragon 617 chipset.

ramraideruk · 08-07-2016, 21:40

Is it true that the G4 plus is only available exclusively through Amazon? Does anyone know when it will be available generally? I just have some Argos vouchers to burn up.

jonmorris · 08-07-2016, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael09

According to specs it's a Qualcomm MSM8952 Snapdragon 617 chipset.

Ah, well Qualcomm has had a nightmare with the 615 and I guess the 617 is rather similar.

Michael09 · 09-07-2016, 07:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

Ah, well Qualcomm has had a nightmare with the 615 and I guess the 617 is rather similar.

Yes, apparently the 617 is almost identical to 615 with only a few clock speeds increased, so it seems it does indeed face the same issues. It seems many people have been reporting this on Lenovo's forum with them telling customers, its normal.

Maybe I should stick with my 410 Powered 3rd Gen one!

call100 · 09-07-2016, 13:50

I bought a G4 for my wife who wanted to move from Windows phone because it doesn't support her car software.......Anyhooze....I got it from John Lewis for £159 with a two year guarantee.
After a week she's delighted with it. Does everything she will ever need and more. It's smooth and accurate in operation, with no problems found to date. The screen is excellent and clear.
I believe it gets a bit hot when viewing video for long periods or gaming on it, but, that's not something she is going to worry about.
No fast charger in the box (only with the Plus), but, the Windows phone fast charger works fine with it.
NFC is not a problem as it won't be used. If a payment option was wanted, I have a case that carries the bank card and it works when presented to the terminal.
I have an S6 and have always used Samsungs for Android, so, the pure Android experience on the G4 is interesting. However, I think it shows that the latest version of Touch Wiz has matured and is better than stock.
Overall, for the price, it's a steal and I'd recommend it to anyone who's not into gaming.

call100 · 09-07-2016, 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramraideruk

Is it true that the G4 plus is only available exclusively through Amazon? Does anyone know when it will be available generally? I just have some Argos vouchers to burn up.

Available at all the usual suspects......Argos......See HERE..

swb1964 · 09-07-2016, 14:21

That's the G4, not the g4 Plus though.....

carcass · 09-07-2016, 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael09

Yes, apparently the 617 is almost identical to 615 with only a few clock speeds increased, so it seems it does indeed face the same issues. It seems many people have been reporting this on Lenovo's forum with them telling customers, its normal.

Maybe I should stick with my 410 Powered 3rd Gen one!

The cpu clock has decreased to 1.5ghz on 617.
The gsmarena review of the phone sounds good but i'm abit concerned with how the MOTO g4 will work with furtue verisions of Andoid.

30-06-2016, 20:38	#101
1manonthebog Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,332	Quote: Originally Posted by Zebb HTC not LG Nexus, before someone points that out. Just rumours at this time. These new Moto G4s seem to have a lot of troubles, going by complaints in it's Moto forum. Overheating, screen faults, ghost touch, software issues, freezes and hangs. Still waiting to see if there's any picture quality difference between the G4 and G4 plus, not bothered by the 3MP. Does one have OIS and the other doesn't? Forum posts seems to be playing up. Thats the norm with the Moto G, I've owned them all, the only Moto G that didn't give me any issues was the 1st gen.

01-07-2016, 22:35	#102
Orbitalzone Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Sussex Posts: 12,173	I've just got a G4 Plus and it seems quite nice, no problems noted so far. Compares closely in most aspects to the Moto X Play. Comes with dual sims and a turbo charger. Screen quality is decent although whites have a slightly yellow tinge.

01-07-2016, 22:42	#103
Michael09 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bedmond, United Kingdom Posts: 400	Quote: Originally Posted by 1manonthebog Thats the norm with the Moto G, I've owned them all, the only Moto G that didn't give me any issues was the 1st gen. I've owned the 1st & 3rd Gen Editions, the 1st was almost trouble free, though there was an occasional glitch with the Wi-Fi. The 3rd Gen seems to overheat quite a lot, whilst doing very little and the battery isn't the best. Its issues like that have stopped me buying the 4th Gen ones.

01-07-2016, 23:26	#104
carcass Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 102	GSMArena review http://m.gsmarena.com/lenovo_moto_g4-review-1458.php think this will be my next phone.

01-07-2016, 23:28	#105
carcass Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 102	double post

01-07-2016, 23:32	#106
carcass Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 102	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Worth noting that Argos currently have the high end Nexus 5x at £180. For most people the 5x is a better phone Not if they want more than 10GB of storage and need better battery life.

02-07-2016, 14:11	#107
Michael09 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bedmond, United Kingdom Posts: 400	Quote: Originally Posted by carcass Not if they want more than 10GB of storage and need better battery life. I've also heard that after about a month or so the performance starts to decrease with lagging on apps.

06-07-2016, 17:26	#108
ags_rule Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 7,408	I got the G4 in the end and very happy with it. £14.50 a month with Tesco Mobile which is an incredible deal. Only two gripes: 1) Size. I do prefer a larger screen size than the original Moto G but this one just strays a little too much into phablet territory. 2) Storage. There is 16GB of storage as standard and expandable storage "up to 128GB". However, this is not the full story - the expandable storage must either be formatted as "internal", which will allow you to store apps on it, or "external", which will allow you to store music/photos/other files from a computer on it. The reason for this is that when formatted as internal storage, the Moto G4 is not recognised by any computer and so files cannot be transferred across. This is only possible when it is formatted as external storage. So, in plain speak, if you want to be able to transfer media between your phone and PC using a USB connection, then you still only have 16GB available for apps. In reality this is closer to 10GB due to the amount taken up by the OS and Google's apps. This is a very disappointing development given that the original Moto G had no problem whatsoever with this.

06-07-2016, 17:59	#109
1manonthebog Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,332	Quote: Originally Posted by ags_rule I got the G4 in the end and very happy with it. £14.50 a month with Tesco Mobile which is an incredible deal. Only two gripes: 1) Size. I do prefer a larger screen size than the original Moto G but this one just strays a little too much into phablet territory. 2) Storage. There is 16GB of storage as standard and expandable storage "up to 128GB". However, this is not the full story - the expandable storage must either be formatted as "internal", which will allow you to store apps on it, or "external", which will allow you to store music/photos/other files from a computer on it. The reason for this is that when formatted as internal storage, the Moto G4 is not recognised by any computer and so files cannot be transferred across. This is only possible when it is formatted as external storage. So, in plain speak, if you want to be able to transfer media between your phone and PC using a USB connection, then you still only have 16GB available for apps. In reality this is closer to 10GB due to the amount taken up by the OS and Google's apps. This is a very disappointing development given that the original Moto G had no problem whatsoever with this. This is to do with Android 6.0.1 not Motorola.

06-07-2016, 19:00	#110
daydotz Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 194	Does the G4 have tap to wake/sleep ? Thanks

06-07-2016, 19:03	#111
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by daydotz Does the G4 have tap to wake/sleep ? Thanks Yes it does.

06-07-2016, 23:49	#112
Michael09 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bedmond, United Kingdom Posts: 400	Quote: Originally Posted by ags_rule I got the G4 in the end and very happy with it. £14.50 a month with Tesco Mobile which is an incredible deal. Only two gripes: 1) Size. I do prefer a larger screen size than the original Moto G but this one just strays a little too much into phablet territory. 2) Storage. There is 16GB of storage as standard and expandable storage "up to 128GB". However, this is not the full story - the expandable storage must either be formatted as "internal", which will allow you to store apps on it, or "external", which will allow you to store music/photos/other files from a computer on it. The reason for this is that when formatted as internal storage, the Moto G4 is not recognised by any computer and so files cannot be transferred across. This is only possible when it is formatted as external storage. So, in plain speak, if you want to be able to transfer media between your phone and PC using a USB connection, then you still only have 16GB available for apps. In reality this is closer to 10GB due to the amount taken up by the OS and Google's apps. This is a very disappointing development given that the original Moto G had no problem whatsoever with this. I have the 3rd Gen on Marshmallow and also have the 16GB one and do find the memory card issue a little annoying. Though I have recently placed an order for the 4th Gen but with 32GB storage, so that should make it better for me .

07-07-2016, 00:31	#113
ags_rule Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 7,408	Quote: Originally Posted by 1manonthebog This is to do with Android 6.0.1 not Motorola. Fair enough - a bizarre move from Android then! Flexible expandable storage was always one of the biggest selling points over the iPhone - seems odd to do anything against that now.

07-07-2016, 08:18	#114
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by daydotz Does the G4 have tap to wake/sleep ? Thanks Sorry brain freeze, I thought we were talking about the LG G4 and not the Moto G4 No the Moto G4 doesn't have DT2W, but it does have Moto display.

07-07-2016, 14:06	#115
daydotz Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 194	Quote: Originally Posted by Denco1 Sorry brain freeze, I thought we were talking about the LG G4 and not the Moto G4 No the Moto G4 doesn't have DT2W, but it does have Moto display. Thanks for clearing that up

08-07-2016, 20:08	#116
Orbitalzone Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Sussex Posts: 12,173	I mentioned this in the other thread about dual sims, - my Moto G4 Plus dual sim allows both sim cards to operate in 3G mode (or 4G and 3G) at the same time which is not common on dual simmers. So this means Sim1 can be on EE for voice+data in 3G or 4G mode and Sim2 can be 3G on Three network for voice only. Previously on the Three Sim could be voice+data as the other sim reverts to 2G which they don't support. You can decide which Sim is for voice+data (4G/3G/2G) and which sim is voice (3G or 2G) - but importantly both sims can be in 3G at the same time. Phone seems nice but am waiting to check out the overheating issue, if it's bad like some say.... I did find recently I turned on the camera, after 30 seconds of view finder operating (not taking pics or video) the phone froze and rebooted itself and the back top left was warmer than I'd expect. Hope this isn't an ongoing issue.

08-07-2016, 20:59	#117
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	What chipset is it?

08-07-2016, 21:36	#118
Michael09 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bedmond, United Kingdom Posts: 400	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris What chipset is it? According to specs it's a Qualcomm MSM8952 Snapdragon 617 chipset.

08-07-2016, 21:40	#119
ramraideruk Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,026	Is it true that the G4 plus is only available exclusively through Amazon? Does anyone know when it will be available generally? I just have some Argos vouchers to burn up.

08-07-2016, 21:55	#120
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by Michael09 According to specs it's a Qualcomm MSM8952 Snapdragon 617 chipset. Ah, well Qualcomm has had a nightmare with the 615 and I guess the 617 is rather similar.

09-07-2016, 07:14	#121
Michael09 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bedmond, United Kingdom Posts: 400	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris Ah, well Qualcomm has had a nightmare with the 615 and I guess the 617 is rather similar. Yes, apparently the 617 is almost identical to 615 with only a few clock speeds increased, so it seems it does indeed face the same issues. It seems many people have been reporting this on Lenovo's forum with them telling customers, its normal. Maybe I should stick with my 410 Powered 3rd Gen one!

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Moto G4 and Moto G4 Plus 2016

09-07-2016, 13:50	#122
call100 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,572	I bought a G4 for my wife who wanted to move from Windows phone because it doesn't support her car software.......Anyhooze....I got it from John Lewis for £159 with a two year guarantee. After a week she's delighted with it. Does everything she will ever need and more. It's smooth and accurate in operation, with no problems found to date. The screen is excellent and clear. I believe it gets a bit hot when viewing video for long periods or gaming on it, but, that's not something she is going to worry about. No fast charger in the box (only with the Plus), but, the Windows phone fast charger works fine with it. NFC is not a problem as it won't be used. If a payment option was wanted, I have a case that carries the bank card and it works when presented to the terminal. I have an S6 and have always used Samsungs for Android, so, the pure Android experience on the G4 is interesting. However, I think it shows that the latest version of Touch Wiz has matured and is better than stock. Overall, for the price, it's a steal and I'd recommend it to anyone who's not into gaming.

09-07-2016, 13:53	#123
call100 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,572	Quote: Originally Posted by ramraideruk Is it true that the G4 plus is only available exclusively through Amazon? Does anyone know when it will be available generally? I just have some Argos vouchers to burn up. Available at all the usual suspects......Argos......See HERE..

09-07-2016, 14:21	#124
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	That's the G4, not the g4 Plus though.....

09-07-2016, 14:24	#125
carcass Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 102	Quote: Originally Posted by Michael09 Yes, apparently the 617 is almost identical to 615 with only a few clock speeds increased, so it seems it does indeed face the same issues. It seems many people have been reporting this on Lenovo's forum with them telling customers, its normal. Maybe I should stick with my 410 Powered 3rd Gen one! The cpu clock has decreased to 1.5ghz on 617. The gsmarena review of the phone sounds good but i'm abit concerned with how the MOTO g4 will work with furtue verisions of Andoid.