Moto G4 and Moto G4 Plus 2016

Orbitalzone · 15-07-2016, 19:32

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Nothing on my Moto X Play is massive.

Indeed, that's my thoughts - it's readable especially for those without 20-20 perfect vision.

I think it's possible to increase/decrease the text size if you want to anyway.

Orbitalzone · 15-07-2016, 19:35

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Originally Posted by jonmorris

It's a mess. Originally there was the E and G. Then the G had two variants (1GB RAM and 2GB RAM) and now there are loads. (actually there were the 3G and 4G models for a while too but not released at the same time or within weeks).

Does Motorola/Lenovo sell enough phones to have so many variants of the E, G, X, Z etc? Plus the Lenovo branded models?

Last year Samsung realised less is more and has drastically cut back on its portfolio. Sony and HTC and others seem to have done so too, albeit perhaps for financial reasons, but then that's the point.

I agree, why on earth do they make so many variants, profits are slim and making just a couple of options would likely bring down costs and increase their slender profit margins and reduce confusion considerably.

You really only need a budget, couple mid and couple higher end models but the moto G mishmash is very confusing.

it's taken the Japanese and more recently the Koreans decades to figure out this basic business strategy that providing dozens of options for all market sectors results in no profits.

1manonthebog · 15-07-2016, 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orbitalzone

Indeed, that's my thoughts - it's readable especially for those without 20-20 perfect vision.

I think it's possible to increase/decrease the text size if you want to anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJXI0CWPYOU

This will display what I mean, The Moto X Play vs Nexus 5X, The X Play has the bigger screen so should display more info on screen but no, everything is just bigger on the X Play, as I said previously you get no more information on the screen of the X Play than you would with the original Moto G which screen is 1" smaller which is a waste of screen real estate,

jonmorris · 15-07-2016, 20:58

More phones should let you change the DPI. Android N does this, as does Cyanogen OS. The Honor 5X now has such an option too (another 5.5-incher).

It is silly to have a big 5.5-inch screen and everything is simply bigger. Sure, some people will want that (or even bigger still for accessibility reasons) but I prefer smaller icons/status bars/notification windows.

Michael09 · 16-07-2016, 06:59

I don't see the point of the G4 play, a decrease in camera quality, same chipset as the G3, same 720p screen. The only possible difference is an increase in battery size? Why not just get a G3, they must have come down in price now. I do find it all bizarre. Please tell me I'm not the only one :P

Orbitalzone · 17-07-2016, 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1manonthebog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJXI0CWPYOU

This will display what I mean, The Moto X Play vs Nexus 5X, The X Play has the bigger screen so should display more info on screen but no, everything is just bigger on the X Play, as I said previously you get no more information on the screen of the X Play than you would with the original Moto G which screen is 1" smaller which is a waste of screen real estate,

Go into Settings>Display and change font size from normal to small and you get smaller text / more info on the screen.

alanwarwic · 18-07-2016, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael09

I don't see the point of the G4 play, a decrease in camera quality, same chipset as the G3, same 720p screen. The only possible difference is an increase in battery size? Why not just get a G3, they must have come down in price now. I do find it all bizarre. Please tell me I'm not the only one :P

I find it hard to believe it was ever meant for UK release. Does the fall in sterling necessitate it?

farmer bob · 31-08-2016, 13:00

Had one of these Moto G4's for over a week now, nice phone, excellent screen, fast too, and obviously a bit larger than previous Moto G's.

Couple of downsides are the lack of notification light/blink, and the charger that came with it is soooo slow. I use my tablet charger instead. It also seems to be better, or slightly more sensitive in picking up & holding onto 4G/Wi-Fi signals.
All in all, thumbs up.

Eadfrith · 01-09-2016, 07:59

When are these new Google/Nexus phones supposed to be coming out??? They are probably going to be pretty expensive though, I wish they would release a more budget version too, they are the only phones that get quick OS updates - but soooo expensive.

Mustabuster · 01-09-2016, 13:22

John Lewis has the 16Gb version for £130 which is cheap I think.

http://www.johnlewis.com/motorola-mo...black/p2789422

Swipe · 03-09-2016, 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eadfrith

When are these new Google/Nexus phones supposed to be coming out??? They are probably going to be pretty expensive though, I wish they would release a more budget version too, they are the only phones that get quick OS updates - but soooo expensive.

4th October

1manonthebog · 03-09-2016, 14:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustabuster

John Lewis has the 16Gb version for £130 which is cheap I think.

http://www.johnlewis.com/motorola-mo...black/p2789422

Coming up at £160 here

swb1964 · 03-09-2016, 14:28

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Originally Posted by 1manonthebog

Coming up at £160 here

I'm pretty sure I saw it at 129 in store in Nottingham yesterday.

1manonthebog · 03-09-2016, 14:31

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Originally Posted by swb1964

I'm pretty sure I saw it at 129 in store in Nottingham yesterday.

The play version is around that price.

swb1964 · 03-09-2016, 18:28

139 plus a compulsory £10 top up at carphone at the moment- probably the cheapest mainstream deal right now.

https://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mo...model/MOTG4BLA

If you are already on Voda or O2 PAYG (I don't think giff gaff counts though

) you can get it for 129 with no top up.

Christa · 03-09-2016, 18:44

I bought this for my mum and she's really pleased with it. It's simple to use and very good value. Camera and screen are quite crap though.

Virgin SIM only monthly contracts rival giffgaff for value.

Personally I'd go for one of the Samsung 5". Much better screen and camera.

swb1964 · 03-09-2016, 19:46

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Originally Posted by Christa

Personally I'd go for one of the Samsung 5". Much better screen and camera.

Is the J3 screen (the closest Samsung in price) really better than the Moto G4?

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15-07-2016, 19:35	#152
Orbitalzone Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Sussex Posts: 12,173	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris It's a mess. Originally there was the E and G. Then the G had two variants (1GB RAM and 2GB RAM) and now there are loads. (actually there were the 3G and 4G models for a while too but not released at the same time or within weeks). Does Motorola/Lenovo sell enough phones to have so many variants of the E, G, X, Z etc? Plus the Lenovo branded models? Last year Samsung realised less is more and has drastically cut back on its portfolio. Sony and HTC and others seem to have done so too, albeit perhaps for financial reasons, but then that's the point. I agree, why on earth do they make so many variants, profits are slim and making just a couple of options would likely bring down costs and increase their slender profit margins and reduce confusion considerably. You really only need a budget, couple mid and couple higher end models but the moto G mishmash is very confusing. it's taken the Japanese and more recently the Koreans decades to figure out this basic business strategy that providing dozens of options for all market sectors results in no profits.

15-07-2016, 19:37	#153
1manonthebog Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,332	Quote: Originally Posted by Orbitalzone Indeed, that's my thoughts - it's readable especially for those without 20-20 perfect vision. I think it's possible to increase/decrease the text size if you want to anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJXI0CWPYOU This will display what I mean, The Moto X Play vs Nexus 5X, The X Play has the bigger screen so should display more info on screen but no, everything is just bigger on the X Play, as I said previously you get no more information on the screen of the X Play than you would with the original Moto G which screen is 1" smaller which is a waste of screen real estate,

15-07-2016, 20:58	#154
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	More phones should let you change the DPI. Android N does this, as does Cyanogen OS. The Honor 5X now has such an option too (another 5.5-incher). It is silly to have a big 5.5-inch screen and everything is simply bigger. Sure, some people will want that (or even bigger still for accessibility reasons) but I prefer smaller icons/status bars/notification windows.

16-07-2016, 06:59	#155
Michael09 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bedmond, United Kingdom Posts: 400	I don't see the point of the G4 play, a decrease in camera quality, same chipset as the G3, same 720p screen. The only possible difference is an increase in battery size? Why not just get a G3, they must have come down in price now. I do find it all bizarre. Please tell me I'm not the only one :P

17-07-2016, 10:43	#156
Orbitalzone Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Sussex Posts: 12,173	Quote: Originally Posted by 1manonthebog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJXI0CWPYOU This will display what I mean, The Moto X Play vs Nexus 5X, The X Play has the bigger screen so should display more info on screen but no, everything is just bigger on the X Play, as I said previously you get no more information on the screen of the X Play than you would with the original Moto G which screen is 1" smaller which is a waste of screen real estate, Go into Settings>Display and change font size from normal to small and you get smaller text / more info on the screen.

18-07-2016, 12:41	#157
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by Michael09 I don't see the point of the G4 play, a decrease in camera quality, same chipset as the G3, same 720p screen. The only possible difference is an increase in battery size? Why not just get a G3, they must have come down in price now. I do find it all bizarre. Please tell me I'm not the only one :P I find it hard to believe it was ever meant for UK release. Does the fall in sterling necessitate it?

31-08-2016, 13:00	#158
farmer bob Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: The United Kingdom Posts: 14,997	Had one of these Moto G4's for over a week now, nice phone, excellent screen, fast too, and obviously a bit larger than previous Moto G's. Couple of downsides are the lack of notification light/blink, and the charger that came with it is soooo slow. I use my tablet charger instead. It also seems to be better, or slightly more sensitive in picking up & holding onto 4G/Wi-Fi signals. All in all, thumbs up.

01-09-2016, 07:59	#159
Eadfrith Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,299	When are these new Google/Nexus phones supposed to be coming out??? They are probably going to be pretty expensive though, I wish they would release a more budget version too, they are the only phones that get quick OS updates - but soooo expensive.

01-09-2016, 13:22	#160
Mustabuster Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Woking, Surrey. Posts: 3,588	John Lewis has the 16Gb version for £130 which is cheap I think. http://www.johnlewis.com/motorola-mo...black/p2789422

03-09-2016, 13:27	#161
Swipe Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,183	Quote: Originally Posted by Eadfrith When are these new Google/Nexus phones supposed to be coming out??? They are probably going to be pretty expensive though, I wish they would release a more budget version too, they are the only phones that get quick OS updates - but soooo expensive. 4th October

03-09-2016, 14:23	#162
1manonthebog Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,332	Quote: Originally Posted by Mustabuster John Lewis has the 16Gb version for £130 which is cheap I think. http://www.johnlewis.com/motorola-mo...black/p2789422 Coming up at £160 here

03-09-2016, 14:28	#163
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	Quote: Originally Posted by 1manonthebog Coming up at £160 here I'm pretty sure I saw it at 129 in store in Nottingham yesterday.

03-09-2016, 14:31	#164
1manonthebog Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,332	Quote: Originally Posted by swb1964 I'm pretty sure I saw it at 129 in store in Nottingham yesterday. The play version is around that price.

03-09-2016, 18:28	#165
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	139 plus a compulsory £10 top up at carphone at the moment- probably the cheapest mainstream deal right now. https://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mo...model/MOTG4BLA If you are already on Voda or O2 PAYG (I don't think giff gaff counts though ) you can get it for 129 with no top up.

03-09-2016, 18:44	#166
Christa Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Down to earth Posts: 13,673	I bought this for my mum and she's really pleased with it. It's simple to use and very good value. Camera and screen are quite crap though. Virgin SIM only monthly contracts rival giffgaff for value. Personally I'd go for one of the Samsung 5". Much better screen and camera.

03-09-2016, 19:46	#167
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	Quote: Originally Posted by Christa Personally I'd go for one of the Samsung 5". Much better screen and camera. Is the J3 screen (the closest Samsung in price) really better than the Moto G4?

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