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#76 |
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I'd be happy to try v1.22.1 out if it's available anywhere?
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Did return my "freezing" new Vestel (Hitachi) and replaced it with this 7655 from ebay :
Bush Freeview+ HD 500GB Digital TV Recorder with USB Media Player B500DTR at £40. Arrived today in a pristine box with label indicating S/W version 1.21.3. Have just set it up and the actual version is 1.22.1. Will be interesting to see if the "freeze" problem is still there. |
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#78 |
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I've had freezes while watching a recording of question time, no fast movement there.....
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It is interesting that it came shipped with v1.21.3 as the Bush boxes have never been given that update over the air/internet - only the Hitachi boxes did. It's quite possible your box has the Hitachi firmware on it (can be seen via the internet portal branding), in which case it will only receive Hitachi updates in the future and not Bush (not in itself a bad thing).
Out of interest I tried the broadcast upgrade procedure which, while not finding anything new, dated 1.22.1 as 11.03.16. Finally, am still having the "freeze" issue - usually once or twice per programme with the first one within a few minutes of the start of playback. Last edited by Prestonian_123 : 17-07-2016 at 21:14. Reason: Clarification |
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#80 |
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Any updates regarding the freeze during playback bug?
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Unfortunately not. However, after going 3 months without a single freeze, I've had 3 this week (2 came this morning). Wondering if the recent mux changes for the Olympics have brought the problem back for me.
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Was just wondering if it had been forgotten about with things going a bit quiet? Although I'm sure it's still on the to do list somewhere.......
Cheers. Tom |
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Had the opportunity to do a bit of testing over the weekend.
Did a full retune but selected Wales as the primary transmitter. Recorded a couple of SD programmes on the Welsh ITV and BBC along with an HD recording from winter hill (signal isn't strong enough to pick up the Welsh HD broadcasts). The Welsh SD recordings played back without issue but the HD from winter hill still gave me the freezes. Not sure if I've already tried recording SD stuff before but will have another play when I get the opportunity. Cheers. Tom |
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I don't think SD vs HD recordings are a factor - I've certainly seen it with both. Perhaps the currently tuned channels are, but it is hard to tell as we only really have manual control over one of them (i.e. live TV).
I've barely used my box the past week, although it has been recording stuff daily, as usual. After having not turned it on for a few days, I did yesterday morning to be greeted instantly with a freeze / remote lock out before the library loaded. Then when it did it locked up again - around a minute covered the two locks. After that it worked fine. This got me thinking - I'm still guessing it is EIT related, with live updates triggering the freezes. We know it also happens with no timers set, but if this is like previous models (can't confirm as no telnet access on the new models), a cache for the EIT is stored on the HDD. I don't know when this gets updated - not sure if it does when recording in standby. Just struck me it might not have been a coincidence to see the severe freezes immediately after booting, when I had not switched it on for several days. Just a hunch that it is the updating of the EIT cache that might be triggering the issue. |
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Do you have the equipment to prove or disprove that or is it something that Vestel/Cabot would need to look into?
Cheers. Tom |
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How is the current OTA upgrade, 1.22.1 going down ?
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How is the current OTA upgrade, 1.22.1 going down ?
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I know Prestonian_123 has reported ongoing freeze issues with this latest incarnation of the software but I think I'll give it a try. It can't be any worse than the version I've got at the moment. Even though he's also on winter hill there may be a chance that local relays or whatever may affect things. Can't make it any worse.
I can't see why the old T7650 was replaced, it's the most reliable freeview box we've ever had. Cheers. Tom |
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Personally I find the T7655 (Emerald) much better than the T7650 which I often got recording failures with (coinciding with the error message shown on screen). and that's before the apparent death of the HDD controller. The T7655 (Amber2) was a different matter - perhaps I just had a faulty unit, but the skipping and stuttering on recordings was unacceptable for me.
Obviously, the freeze problem is an issue, but it still happens extremely rarely for me - hasn't happened for me all week, and was unable to repeat my case where the freezes came after a weeks non-use. The question is what exactly is in this v1.22.1 OAD. My guess is that it is different to the v1.22.x dev versions that I and Prestonian_123 are using - hopefully newer and hopefully with more fixes, maybe even for the freezing. |
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I'll have to make sure I catch it this week then if it's only on for a few days. Will it be available as an Internet download do you know?
Will report back in due course......... Cheers. Tom |
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Sorry , I was a week early for the OTA upgrade !
I have tried 3 T7655s and all have been returned due to the freeze issue on virtually every recording. I would love to own one if this could be rectified because, otherwise, they are great. As ever, futaura is spot on in identifying the point as being whether the OTA 1.22.1 will cure it where the "development" version did not. As soup_dragon is also on Winter Hill I'm keen to hear any feedback he may have on the OTA version next week. I'm missing my Vestel PVR at the moment and am keen to buy a fully working T7655. |
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I'm confused now.
I thought you had v1.22.1 on already? If you do then you'd know if the issue is resolved. Or have I miss read something somewhere (more than likely)? Cheers. Tom |
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About bloody time
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I have v1.22.0 (January) and Prestonian_123 has v1.22.1 (March) - these are development builds (not public release versions). Often these numbers mean little in dev versions and may rewind when it comes to public release builds and the content may be different (hopefully newer with more fixes). At the very least the debug output over serial and in the UI is removed for public releases. So, the v1.22.1 OAD may be a much newer and better version than what Prestonian_123 has, or it may simply be the same but compiled for public release (hope not).
I think Presonion_123 perhaps misread the DTG site - I don't think there has been an OAD yet, otherwise my box would have updated itself. The other detail is that it would not be the first time the DTG got the version number wrong on their site. |
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Update is due Tuesday to Thursday so if all goes well I'll get it in the week. http://dtg.org.uk/dtg/download_schedule.html
Time will tell if it fixes things or not. Cheers. Tom |
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The other detail is that it would not be the first time the DTG got the version number wrong on their site.
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It is version 1.22.1 on OAD today and it does include at least Bush.
project_emerald-2016-03-11-11-11-16 Last edited by Prestonian_123 : 30-08-2016 at 14:27. Reason: typo |
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#98 |
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Downloaded the update and the freeze issue is still there,
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#99 |
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Mine is downloading as I type.
Takes blooming ages doesn't it? ![]() Cheers. Tom |
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Mine is downloading as I type.
Takes blooming ages doesn't it? ![]() Cheers. Tom |
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