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Old 10-07-2016, 21:54
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I'd be happy to try v1.22.1 out if it's available anywhere?

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Old 11-07-2016, 21:42
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Did return my "freezing" new Vestel (Hitachi) and replaced it with this 7655 from ebay :

Bush Freeview+ HD 500GB Digital TV Recorder with USB Media Player B500DTR at £40.

Arrived today in a pristine box with label indicating S/W version 1.21.3. Have just set it up and the actual version is 1.22.1. Will be interesting to see if the "freeze" problem is still there.
Just to confirm that Version UK 1.22.1 does have the "freeze" issue. Am wondering whether it is linked with speed of motion. Have only watched 3 recordings so far of which 2 were drama type and were fine but the 3rd was the highlights of yesterday's British Grand Prix from Channel4 HD. It froze right at the beginning and again half way through but righted itself after about 40 seconds. Will continue to test.
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Old 11-07-2016, 21:48
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I've had freezes while watching a recording of question time, no fast movement there.....

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Old 17-07-2016, 21:12
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It is interesting that it came shipped with v1.21.3 as the Bush boxes have never been given that update over the air/internet - only the Hitachi boxes did. It's quite possible your box has the Hitachi firmware on it (can be seen via the internet portal branding), in which case it will only receive Hitachi updates in the future and not Bush (not in itself a bad thing).
Have connected Recorder to the Internet and checked the portal branding which is shown as "Bush".

Out of interest I tried the broadcast upgrade procedure which, while not finding anything new, dated 1.22.1 as 11.03.16.

Finally, am still having the "freeze" issue - usually once or twice per programme with the first one within a few minutes of the start of playback.

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Old 05-08-2016, 15:46
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Any updates regarding the freeze during playback bug?

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Old 06-08-2016, 20:44
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Unfortunately not. However, after going 3 months without a single freeze, I've had 3 this week (2 came this morning). Wondering if the recent mux changes for the Olympics have brought the problem back for me.
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Old 06-08-2016, 20:54
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Was just wondering if it had been forgotten about with things going a bit quiet? Although I'm sure it's still on the to do list somewhere.......

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Old 14-08-2016, 21:14
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Had the opportunity to do a bit of testing over the weekend.

Did a full retune but selected Wales as the primary transmitter. Recorded a couple of SD programmes on the Welsh ITV and BBC along with an HD recording from winter hill (signal isn't strong enough to pick up the Welsh HD broadcasts). The Welsh SD recordings played back without issue but the HD from winter hill still gave me the freezes. Not sure if I've already tried recording SD stuff before but will have another play when I get the opportunity.

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Old 14-08-2016, 21:48
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I don't think SD vs HD recordings are a factor - I've certainly seen it with both. Perhaps the currently tuned channels are, but it is hard to tell as we only really have manual control over one of them (i.e. live TV).

I've barely used my box the past week, although it has been recording stuff daily, as usual. After having not turned it on for a few days, I did yesterday morning to be greeted instantly with a freeze / remote lock out before the library loaded. Then when it did it locked up again - around a minute covered the two locks. After that it worked fine.

This got me thinking - I'm still guessing it is EIT related, with live updates triggering the freezes. We know it also happens with no timers set, but if this is like previous models (can't confirm as no telnet access on the new models), a cache for the EIT is stored on the HDD. I don't know when this gets updated - not sure if it does when recording in standby. Just struck me it might not have been a coincidence to see the severe freezes immediately after booting, when I had not switched it on for several days. Just a hunch that it is the updating of the EIT cache that might be triggering the issue.
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Old 14-08-2016, 22:04
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Do you have the equipment to prove or disprove that or is it something that Vestel/Cabot would need to look into?

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Old 26-08-2016, 19:44
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How is the current OTA upgrade, 1.22.1 going down ?
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Old 26-08-2016, 20:38
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How is the current OTA upgrade, 1.22.1 going down ?
I didn't know there was one! I see there is one scheduled for this coming Tuesday - was it broadcast this week too? If so, it would be interesting to know the date stamp on the software and whether it was broadcast for Bush, Hitachi or both (I have learnt to take DTG listings with a pinch of salt).
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Old 26-08-2016, 21:19
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I know Prestonian_123 has reported ongoing freeze issues with this latest incarnation of the software but I think I'll give it a try. It can't be any worse than the version I've got at the moment. Even though he's also on winter hill there may be a chance that local relays or whatever may affect things. Can't make it any worse.
I can't see why the old T7650 was replaced, it's the most reliable freeview box we've ever had.

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Old 27-08-2016, 17:49
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Personally I find the T7655 (Emerald) much better than the T7650 which I often got recording failures with (coinciding with the error message shown on screen). and that's before the apparent death of the HDD controller. The T7655 (Amber2) was a different matter - perhaps I just had a faulty unit, but the skipping and stuttering on recordings was unacceptable for me.

Obviously, the freeze problem is an issue, but it still happens extremely rarely for me - hasn't happened for me all week, and was unable to repeat my case where the freezes came after a weeks non-use.

The question is what exactly is in this v1.22.1 OAD. My guess is that it is different to the v1.22.x dev versions that I and Prestonian_123 are using - hopefully newer and hopefully with more fixes, maybe even for the freezing.
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Old 27-08-2016, 18:33
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I'll have to make sure I catch it this week then if it's only on for a few days. Will it be available as an Internet download do you know?
Will report back in due course.........

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Old 27-08-2016, 18:51
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Sorry , I was a week early for the OTA upgrade !

I have tried 3 T7655s and all have been returned due to the freeze issue on virtually every recording. I would love to own one if this could be rectified because, otherwise, they are great. As ever, futaura is spot on in identifying the point as being whether the OTA 1.22.1 will cure it where the "development" version did not.

As soup_dragon is also on Winter Hill I'm keen to hear any feedback he may have on the OTA version next week. I'm missing my Vestel PVR at the moment and am keen to buy a fully working T7655.
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Old 27-08-2016, 19:27
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I'm confused now.

I thought you had v1.22.1 on already? If you do then you'd know if the issue is resolved. Or have I miss read something somewhere (more than likely)?

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Old 27-08-2016, 21:16
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About bloody time
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Old 27-08-2016, 21:17
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I have v1.22.0 (January) and Prestonian_123 has v1.22.1 (March) - these are development builds (not public release versions). Often these numbers mean little in dev versions and may rewind when it comes to public release builds and the content may be different (hopefully newer with more fixes). At the very least the debug output over serial and in the UI is removed for public releases. So, the v1.22.1 OAD may be a much newer and better version than what Prestonian_123 has, or it may simply be the same but compiled for public release (hope not).

I think Presonion_123 perhaps misread the DTG site - I don't think there has been an OAD yet, otherwise my box would have updated itself. The other detail is that it would not be the first time the DTG got the version number wrong on their site.
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Old 28-08-2016, 12:53
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Update is due Tuesday to Thursday so if all goes well I'll get it in the week. http://dtg.org.uk/dtg/download_schedule.html

Time will tell if it fixes things or not.

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Old 30-08-2016, 12:39
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The other detail is that it would not be the first time the DTG got the version number wrong on their site.
It is version 1.22.1 on OAD today and it does include at least Bush.

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Old 30-08-2016, 14:26
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It is version 1.22.1 on OAD today and it does include at least Bush.

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This reference suggests to me that it may well be the same as the development version of 1.22.1 also dated 11 March, as I found on a reconditioned box - see post #79.

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Old 30-08-2016, 16:31
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Downloaded the update and the freeze issue is still there,
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Old 30-08-2016, 17:17
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Mine is downloading as I type.
Takes blooming ages doesn't it?

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Old 30-08-2016, 18:56
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Mine is downloading as I type.
Takes blooming ages doesn't it?

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yeah started mine at 10:10am it finished about 11:50am
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