iPhone 7 will have things you can't live without says Tim Cook

Everything Goes · 03-05-2016, 16:28

While its only 4 months away from the next iPhone being released there are always plenty of rumours but every now and again we get a hint at what they are planning. Apple have seen sales drop due to market saturation. The iPhone SE attempts to address some of the sales drop. What Apple really need is to pull a rabbit out of the hat in September.

Tim Cook has given a hint that the new iPhone will have a features that you cant live without and it will make people want to upgrade.

Quote:

We have great innovation in the pipeline, like new iPhones that will incent you and other people that have iPhones today to upgrade to new iPhones.

We are going to give you things that you can't live without, that you just don't know that you need today.

That has always been the objective of Apple - to do things that really enrich people's lives, that you look back on, and you wonder, 'how did I live without this?'

Whether this is something genuinely new or Apples version of something that already exists remains to be seen.

http://www.neowin.net/news/tim-cook-...t-live-without

Meanwhile there are plenty of believe it or not rumours here:

http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-7/

alanwarwic · 03-05-2016, 17:14

A free Apple Watch?

jsmith99 · 03-05-2016, 17:22

So how come everyone's managed to live without them for thousands of years?

Skie · 03-05-2016, 17:38

It's a back button.

aurichie · 03-05-2016, 18:34

Every new iPhone has features I can't live without. That's why I always upgrade every year. So nothing new here, just a commitment from Apple to continuing driving forward on the innovation that the rest of the industry follows.

AxeVictim · 03-05-2016, 18:56

Bluetooth earphones.

victor mel · 03-05-2016, 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by aurichie

Every new iPhone has features I can't live without. That's why I always upgrade every year. So nothing new here, just a commitment from Apple to continuing driving forward on the innovation that the rest of the industry follows.

Rubbish. Apple just reinvent what's already out there giving it a new name.

swordman · 03-05-2016, 19:41

High def (2k?) screens / oled
Working bluetooth
A use for 64bit
Waterproofing .......................

Whole raft of things they could reinvent which were useless on other phones but essential on iphones. I mean I'm grateful they invented bigger screens, resolution beyond retina, NFC, stylus, task bar ... the list is endless really of things I couldn't live without.

ShaunIOW · 03-05-2016, 20:39

Hopefully a MicroSD card slot and replaceable battery. Add those and I might consider an iphone, without an SD card slot I won't.

gomezz · 03-05-2016, 20:41

Wireless charging?
Double Tap to wake?
Glance screen?

JCR · 03-05-2016, 20:56

I'd still half suspect the one this September is going to be called the 6 SE. Calling it the 7 if it's going to look almost identical to the 6- bar a better camera and wireless charging connectivity- will feel odd.

John_Patrick · 03-05-2016, 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by victor mel

Rubbish. Apple just reinvent what's already out there giving it a new name.

This ^^

They seem to have a knack with marketing to make it look like they invented it....its as if their ads go out on a higher frequency that only sheep can hear and believe it.

JasonWatkins · 03-05-2016, 21:03

[quote=gomezz;82296600]Wireless charging?/QUOTE]

I think this will be it personally. They've done it before - they'll take a feature that's already been available on other handsets and add their own spin on it to make it a 'must have feature'.

It'll likely allow them to bring out the 'iCharge' pad which will allow you to wirelessly charge the iPhone as well as the watch.

gomezz · 03-05-2016, 21:04

So not compatible with either of the existing wireless charging camps?

alanwarwic · 03-05-2016, 21:26

Folding, fully flexible and even shutter type screens will come in eventually.

The thing is, even if LG or Samsung think of introducing, they as likely as not get a better profit margin letting Apple have it exclusive for 6 to 12 months.

WelshBluebird · 04-05-2016, 00:26

The quote from Tim Cook doesn't really specifically reference the iPhone 7 or this / next year though. He could be talking 2/3 years in the future.

de525ma · 04-05-2016, 01:00

Perhaps the iPhone 7 will have a self-satisfaction removal app. I'm struggling to go on without it.

alanwarwic · 04-05-2016, 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by WelshBluebird

.... He could be talking 2/3 years in the future.

The future always have thing a majority eventually adopts.

Phablets are a case in point. The PDA phone took off with the mass through having an mp3 player as the base, as well as an, at the time, decent web browser.
The IPAQ phones prior to that were hampered by a useless Microsoft OS.

Interestingly, not saying 'next Iphone' may mean he is waiting for mass production from maybe, the likes of Samsung and LG for the next iteration of OLEDs.
2017 was the rumour for a switch to OLED for the iPhone.

Folding phones are interesting. You could have a cycindrical battery as the base for a roller blind like phone, messaging, calls etc only needing a secondary OLED screen.

Or they could even be doing a Yotahone like thing, but colour e-ink as the second screen.
Yota 3 arrives soon, and they say it will be cheap to buy.

jonmorris · 04-05-2016, 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by aurichie

Every new iPhone has features I can't live without. That's why I always upgrade every year. So nothing new here, just a commitment from Apple to continuing driving forward on the innovation that the rest of the industry follows.

It's going to have Retina Fluid Viewing(TM)?!

Images will literally pour out of your iPhone display and onto your iPad, thanks to the unique, invented by Apple, Organic Retinal LED technology...

jonmorris · 04-05-2016, 12:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaunIOW

Hopefully a MicroSD card slot and replaceable battery. Add those and I might consider an iphone, without an SD card slot I won't.

Nobody needs either of those things. That's why the iPhone does not and never has offered either.

Unless Apple decides otherwise, of course, in which case they do. And then consumers can admit that both are excellent ideas, but only because the technology has now fully matured.

Tassium · 04-05-2016, 12:15

Tim Cook is not the kind of person that Steve Jobs was. So I doubt there is going to be any kind of genuine innovation, merely progression.

jonmorris · 04-05-2016, 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonWatkins

They've done it before - they'll take a feature that's already been available on other handsets and add their own spin on it to make it a 'must have feature'.

It'll likely allow them to bring out the 'iCharge' pad which will allow you to wirelessly charge the iPhone as well as the watch.

The thing is, while we can joke about Apple reinventing things, if Apple did launch wireless charging, it would likely announce tie-ups with hundreds of partners and the introduction of charging plates just about everywhere. Every coffee shop, every restaurant, every bar, within airline seat tables etc.

Where the industry has so far failed to get wireless charging to be taken seriously, to a point where many new phones are now lacking support, Apple would make it work.

ShaunIOW · 04-05-2016, 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

Nobody needs either of those things. That's why the iPhone does not and never has offered either.

Unless Apple decides otherwise, of course, in which case they do. And then consumers can admit that both are excellent ideas, but only because the technology has now fully matured.

I need them, thats why I don''t have and won't get an iphone (I have an ipad and lack of expandable storage is a pain in the arse) - as I like to be able to know I can recover my pics and docs etc if the phone breaks (I don't like relying on 3rd party cloud systems for security, safety or being able to access what I want when i want), and a spare battery would be nice considering smart phones drain so quickly and charging when out it is a pain and takes a while, plus there is the cost of replacing a falling battery as they only last so long and are considered consumuables for warranty purposes. I get your point though that these things will only be needed when Apple deem them to be needed by some people.

jonmorris · 04-05-2016, 13:04

The battery is starting to go on my 2011 MacBook Air, and it is a PITA that I either need to pay a lot to get it replaced, or - as Apple would expect - I decide it is time to buy a new one.

And the best thing about non-removable batteries is that when you do buy a new phone/tablet/laptop, you are likely to get less money selling second hand - or may even find you can't sell at all unless you get the battery replaced. So you may decide not to bother, and therefore someone else is more likely going to buy new.

I wonder how much kit is sent for recycling that is perfectly usable but for the sealed battery. It's quite scary to imagine.

binary · 04-05-2016, 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

I wonder how much kit is sent for recycling that is perfectly usable but for the sealed battery. It's quite scary to imagine.

It's horrific.

We (i.e. humans) might learn one day. Probably not though.

03-05-2016, 16:28	#1
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	iPhone 7 will have things you can't live without says Tim Cook While its only 4 months away from the next iPhone being released there are always plenty of rumours but every now and again we get a hint at what they are planning. Apple have seen sales drop due to market saturation. The iPhone SE attempts to address some of the sales drop. What Apple really need is to pull a rabbit out of the hat in September. Tim Cook has given a hint that the new iPhone will have a features that you cant live without and it will make people want to upgrade. Quote: We have great innovation in the pipeline, like new iPhones that will incent you and other people that have iPhones today to upgrade to new iPhones. We are going to give you things that you can't live without, that you just don't know that you need today. That has always been the objective of Apple - to do things that really enrich people's lives, that you look back on, and you wonder, 'how did I live without this?' Whether this is something genuinely new or Apples version of something that already exists remains to be seen. http://www.neowin.net/news/tim-cook-...t-live-without Meanwhile there are plenty of believe it or not rumours here: http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-7/

03-05-2016, 17:14	#2
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	A free Apple Watch?

03-05-2016, 17:22	#3
jsmith99 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 19,936	So how come everyone's managed to live without them for thousands of years?

03-05-2016, 17:38	#4
Skie Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 58	It's a back button.

03-05-2016, 18:34	#5
aurichie Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5,100	Every new iPhone has features I can't live without. That's why I always upgrade every year. So nothing new here, just a commitment from Apple to continuing driving forward on the innovation that the rest of the industry follows.

03-05-2016, 18:56	#6
AxeVictim Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,644	Bluetooth earphones.

03-05-2016, 19:14	#7
victor mel Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Kent Posts: 2,855	Quote: Originally Posted by aurichie Every new iPhone has features I can't live without. That's why I always upgrade every year. So nothing new here, just a commitment from Apple to continuing driving forward on the innovation that the rest of the industry follows. Rubbish. Apple just reinvent what's already out there giving it a new name.

03-05-2016, 19:41	#8
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	High def (2k?) screens / oled Working bluetooth A use for 64bit Waterproofing ....................... Whole raft of things they could reinvent which were useless on other phones but essential on iphones. I mean I'm grateful they invented bigger screens, resolution beyond retina, NFC, stylus, task bar ... the list is endless really of things I couldn't live without.

03-05-2016, 20:39	#9
ShaunIOW Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Isle of Wight Posts: 7,828	Hopefully a MicroSD card slot and replaceable battery. Add those and I might consider an iphone, without an SD card slot I won't.

03-05-2016, 20:41	#10
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	Wireless charging? Double Tap to wake? Glance screen?

03-05-2016, 20:56	#11
JCR Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland, UK Posts: 16,711	I'd still half suspect the one this September is going to be called the 6 SE. Calling it the 7 if it's going to look almost identical to the 6- bar a better camera and wireless charging connectivity- will feel odd.

03-05-2016, 20:59	#12
John_Patrick Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Newcastle Posts: 904	Quote: Originally Posted by victor mel Rubbish. Apple just reinvent what's already out there giving it a new name. This ^^ They seem to have a knack with marketing to make it look like they invented it....its as if their ads go out on a higher frequency that only sheep can hear and believe it.

03-05-2016, 21:03	#13
JasonWatkins Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 53,670	[quote=gomezz;82296600]Wireless charging?/QUOTE] I think this will be it personally. They've done it before - they'll take a feature that's already been available on other handsets and add their own spin on it to make it a 'must have feature'. It'll likely allow them to bring out the 'iCharge' pad which will allow you to wirelessly charge the iPhone as well as the watch.

03-05-2016, 21:04	#14
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	So not compatible with either of the existing wireless charging camps?

03-05-2016, 21:26	#15
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Folding, fully flexible and even shutter type screens will come in eventually. The thing is, even if LG or Samsung think of introducing, they as likely as not get a better profit margin letting Apple have it exclusive for 6 to 12 months.

04-05-2016, 00:26	#16
WelshBluebird Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 720	The quote from Tim Cook doesn't really specifically reference the iPhone 7 or this / next year though. He could be talking 2/3 years in the future.

04-05-2016, 01:00	#17
de525ma Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 787	Perhaps the iPhone 7 will have a self-satisfaction removal app. I'm struggling to go on without it.

04-05-2016, 10:15	#18
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by WelshBluebird .... He could be talking 2/3 years in the future. The future always have thing a majority eventually adopts. Phablets are a case in point. The PDA phone took off with the mass through having an mp3 player as the base, as well as an, at the time, decent web browser. The IPAQ phones prior to that were hampered by a useless Microsoft OS. Interestingly, not saying 'next Iphone' may mean he is waiting for mass production from maybe, the likes of Samsung and LG for the next iteration of OLEDs. 2017 was the rumour for a switch to OLED for the iPhone. Folding phones are interesting. You could have a cycindrical battery as the base for a roller blind like phone, messaging, calls etc only needing a secondary OLED screen. Or they could even be doing a Yotahone like thing, but colour e-ink as the second screen. Yota 3 arrives soon, and they say it will be cheap to buy.

04-05-2016, 12:10	#19
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by aurichie Every new iPhone has features I can't live without. That's why I always upgrade every year. So nothing new here, just a commitment from Apple to continuing driving forward on the innovation that the rest of the industry follows. It's going to have Retina Fluid Viewing(TM)?! Images will literally pour out of your iPhone display and onto your iPad, thanks to the unique, invented by Apple, Organic Retinal LED technology...

04-05-2016, 12:12	#20
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by ShaunIOW Hopefully a MicroSD card slot and replaceable battery. Add those and I might consider an iphone, without an SD card slot I won't. Nobody needs either of those things. That's why the iPhone does not and never has offered either. Unless Apple decides otherwise, of course, in which case they do. And then consumers can admit that both are excellent ideas, but only because the technology has now fully matured.

04-05-2016, 12:15	#21
Tassium Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: It's Grim Posts: 24,412	Tim Cook is not the kind of person that Steve Jobs was. So I doubt there is going to be any kind of genuine innovation, merely progression.

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04-05-2016, 12:34	#22
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by JasonWatkins They've done it before - they'll take a feature that's already been available on other handsets and add their own spin on it to make it a 'must have feature'. It'll likely allow them to bring out the 'iCharge' pad which will allow you to wirelessly charge the iPhone as well as the watch. The thing is, while we can joke about Apple reinventing things, if Apple did launch wireless charging, it would likely announce tie-ups with hundreds of partners and the introduction of charging plates just about everywhere. Every coffee shop, every restaurant, every bar, within airline seat tables etc. Where the industry has so far failed to get wireless charging to be taken seriously, to a point where many new phones are now lacking support, Apple would make it work.

04-05-2016, 12:48	#23
ShaunIOW Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Isle of Wight Posts: 7,828	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris Nobody needs either of those things. That's why the iPhone does not and never has offered either. Unless Apple decides otherwise, of course, in which case they do. And then consumers can admit that both are excellent ideas, but only because the technology has now fully matured. I need them, thats why I don''t have and won't get an iphone (I have an ipad and lack of expandable storage is a pain in the arse) - as I like to be able to know I can recover my pics and docs etc if the phone breaks (I don't like relying on 3rd party cloud systems for security, safety or being able to access what I want when i want), and a spare battery would be nice considering smart phones drain so quickly and charging when out it is a pain and takes a while, plus there is the cost of replacing a falling battery as they only last so long and are considered consumuables for warranty purposes. I get your point though that these things will only be needed when Apple deem them to be needed by some people.

04-05-2016, 13:04	#24
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	The battery is starting to go on my 2011 MacBook Air, and it is a PITA that I either need to pay a lot to get it replaced, or - as Apple would expect - I decide it is time to buy a new one. And the best thing about non-removable batteries is that when you do buy a new phone/tablet/laptop, you are likely to get less money selling second hand - or may even find you can't sell at all unless you get the battery replaced. So you may decide not to bother, and therefore someone else is more likely going to buy new. I wonder how much kit is sent for recycling that is perfectly usable but for the sealed battery. It's quite scary to imagine.

04-05-2016, 14:03	#25
binary Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 636	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris I wonder how much kit is sent for recycling that is perfectly usable but for the sealed battery. It's quite scary to imagine. It's horrific. We (i.e. humans) might learn one day. Probably not though.