Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“The thing is, people don't really care. They might say they do, but they still buy an iPhone, shop at Primark, buy cheap milk from a supermarket etc.”
Not having a go but you can't really claim moral superiority if you own
any mobile phone - as far as I'm aware and as far as anyone's ever said, they're all manufactured in the same factories, as are most computer motherboards and other electronics. Most clothes are also made in sweatshops. You'd really have to spend you life researching every single thing you purchase (which as presumably a vegan you'd already be using all your time doing with food and drink) to have clean enough hands to call other people out for 'not caring'.
I use a Nexus, but am not kidding myself that I'm performing some great humanitarian service by not buying Apple - I mean how's it going at Huawei's factories I wonder?
https://www.wired.com/2015/04/inside-chinese-factories/
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...s-9420290.html
Oh dear. Not great.
I seem to remember a TV programme a few years ago where someone tried to live without anything from China - it wasn't possible.
However, it's certainly right that if you do want to pay more, companies should give you the option of ethically manufactured products, and to that extent it's another reason I stopped with Apple myself. Back when I first started buying their stuff around 2003, the thing of them being a higher price for a good reason (better quality, ethically manufactured etc) was true, to the best of my knowledge. They were made in Ireland. It looks like it was just a couple of years later that they started outsourcing to Foxconn (and later Pegatron). Now, as I've said elsewhere, you're paying more for none of the benefit - it's purely them maximising profit.