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That's a problem for some companies, but would most iOS invested users suddenly switch to Android? Wouldn't they become accustomed to the fact that if they don't act quick, they'll lose out - thus waking up extra early to secure a purchase at 8am?
Like buying tickets to a gig etc. Would someone buy an Xbox because they missed out on the latest PlayStation? Would someone .. you get the idea. It works for some brands to make them hard to get, and seem exclusive. Which for a while they are. As I said, why wouldn't you do this if you could? Not only do you not lose sales today, but you ensure you have people queuing up next time (if not at a store, behind their keyboards waiting to pre-order). If people want something on day one, they'll queue anyway - there doesn't really need to be a shortage to make people queue. If I'm a company selling a product, I just want to sell it to people who want to buy it. I don't really see any advantage in purposely making people wait before they can buy it. I can't think of any circumstance where a potential customer wants to wait a couple of months to buy a product - its just frustrating. |
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I haven't seen that reported by Apple, any links to reports that can be verified as official?
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Because there is no real controversy. Most normal people simply don't care and don't need or use a headphone jack.
Hell, even at the Samsung Note 7 launch when the exec got up on stage and tried to make a cheap headphone joke nobody laughed. Of course that's the least of Samsung's concerns now the world knows the Note 7 is basically a weapon for terrorists. |
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Did you read more than the headline?
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Most normal people simply don't care and don't need or use a headphone jack
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The new iPhone has already been jailbroken. Have you not been following the tech press.
![]() A user who purposely jailbreaks their phone is very different from someone trying to break in to someone else's phone. |
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Blimey TC himself said it in a morning call to investors, where have you been?
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People on here have said these new iPhones are boring. . |
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Well you would be hard pressed to deny that is true. It has to be the biggest 'not much has changed' iPhone launch in years.
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Yes, I have. I was quoting the article you linked to.
A user who purposely jailbreaks their phone is very different from someone trying to break in to someone else's phone. That's the downside to popularity. Hacking will become an increasing headache for Apple. |
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Because there is no real controversy. Most normal people simply don't care and don't need or use a headphone jack.
Hell, even at the Samsung Note 7 launch when the exec got up on stage and tried to make a cheap headphone joke nobody laughed. Of course that's the least of Samsung's concerns now the world knows the Note 7 is basically a weapon for terrorists. I didn't realise that was such a minority use for a phone. Having said that, I'm not about to get a new iPhone, and when I do, I won't be at all bothered about using the little adapter. (or maybe investing in some shiny new headphones by then) |
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I listen to music all the time on my iPhone when I'm out and about.
I didn't realise that was such a minority use for a phone. Having said that, I'm not about to get a new iPhone, and when I do, I won't be at all bothered about using the little adapter. (or maybe investing in some shiny new headphones by then) Comparing the brand new set out of my 6s Plus box to the new ones out of a 7 box. I had been using an older set from an iPhone 6 for the last year and thought they had worn out when I first compared them to the Lightning version. Lightning might not be quite as convenient but it does seem to offer better sound capability. |
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Well, in truth not much has changed, but the little that has changed has caused a lot of noise...
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You can attempt to put the usual Apple spin on reports. However, the fact remains iOS is coming under increasing pressure as it is now attracting the same sort of unwelcome attention that Windows has been subjected to for years.
That's the downside to popularity. Hacking will become an increasing headache for Apple. Nobody even pretends that Android is secure, and the mutilple extra layers of software put on by manufacturers makes the problem even worse. Faust, you talk a lot of sense in most threads but mindlessly attack Apple in this one. You don't like the iPhone, fine, move on. |
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I don't think they're going to lose sales over the delays. Who gets so hyped about a product that they buy it almost immediately after release, yet cancels when they have to wait a couple of weeks? People who are that keen on a product aren't going to give up that easily.
More likely that it instils a feeling of being part of an elite, which helps with keeping the price at a premium, and helps with the "look what I got hold of!" factor down t'pub. Indeed it's only speculation, but it's odd that a company of their size can't seem to make them fast enough year after year ![]() They're far from the only ones. At least OnePlus gave up on the elitist special handshake club thing eventually, as that was about the worst i've seen. |
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Faust, you talk a lot of sense in most threads but mindlessly attack Apple in this one. You don't like the iPhone, fine, move on. I suspect age demographic is an issue/bar to that happening. It really is school playground stuff. |
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It's not a case of not liking the iPhone. I do in fact think it's a very competent phone. What I can't be doing with is the over-hyped almost hysterical posts from some owners. It's not perfect and neither is iOS. Android too has it's problems. Now if people could just accept that and have a rational debate it would be much more interesting.
I suspect age demographic is an issue/bar to that happening. It really is school playground stuff. As for demographics, I'm a 49 years old while male. Does that help?
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I agree with most of that. Baiting 'over enthusiastic' Apple fans doesn't make for rational debate though.
As for demographics, I'm a 49 years old while male. Does that help? ![]() I suppose that is what makes it difficult. As you get older you see the futility in all this 'mine's better than yours' argument. It is after all just 'willy waving'.
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What hardcore, sycophantic, fanboys fail to realise is that they do more harm to a brand in the long run. Companies obviously like fans, but not fanatics.
They can harm reputations and also impact on the future development of a product or service. People need to be open minded when talking about their favourite company, football team, band etc. If you never question things, you end up wondering in years to come where everything went wrong - because the people you worshipped actually listened to you and didn't deal with the issues that stopped other people from buying your product. But when you're young, you think everything in life will be fine if you're in with the right crowd. |
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The Jet Black iPhone 7 is in short supply because the 9 step manufacturing process only has a 60-70% yield rate.
http://www.alphr.com/apple-iphone-7/...-struggling-to |
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Still don't get why anyone would waste their money on the jet black one. I want the matte black 128GB Plus but it's literally impossible to get hold of. As I said earlier on in the thread, I'm going away traveling for a year in five weeks so I don't want to order it online via Apple in case it doesn't end up arriving in time. I was going to just order one and then if in the next few weeks I'm able to pick one up then I could send the one I ordered back, however looking at Apple's returns policy it says you only have 14 days to return. I've been checking Apple every morning for pickup but nothing. Also been keeping an eye on the istocknow website and pretty much the entire country is showing as out of stock of all iPhones. In fact, the only place which seems to have stock of the iPhones is the U.S and a few places in Europe. The iPhone Plus 128GB though literally nowhere seems to have in stock.
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The Jet Black iPhone 7 is in short supply because the 9 step manufacturing process only has a 60-70% yield rate.
http://www.alphr.com/apple-iphone-7/...-struggling-to |
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What hardcore, sycophantic, fanboys fail to realise is that they do more harm to a brand in the long run. Companies obviously like fans, but not fanatics.
They can harm reputations and also impact on the future development of a product or service. People need to be open minded when talking about their favourite company, football team, band etc. If you never question things, you end up wondering in years to come where everything went wrong - because the people you worshipped actually listened to you and didn't deal with the issues that stopped other people from buying your product. But when you're young, you think everything in life will be fine if you're in with the right crowd. |
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Because there is no real controversy. Most normal people simply don't care and don't need or use a headphone jack.
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Because there is no real controversy. Most normal people simply don't care and don't need or use a headphone jack.
I often think how dangerous it is though. You don't notice the traffic and have no idea who is coming up at the back of you or what their intentions might be. |
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