[Stereo Steve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kwh3R0YjuQ

[Master Ozzy]

If the iPhone 7 doesn't have a significant change/new feature (and I'm not talking about the way the phone looks) then I'm giving up on iPhone's and changing to a different make of phone. I love iPhone's and the interface and ease of use...there's many things I love about them, however I've had my iPhone 5 since it was first released and there is nothing on any of the models since then (5s, 6 and 6s) that makes me want to upgrade. I recently bought my Mum her first iPhone (the SE) and apart from the fingerprint feature and a bit of a better camera, there is literally no difference in my opinion and nothing that makes me want to upgrade. I've waited long enough now, so if there is no significant improvement/new features on the iPhone 7 then I'm off. The bigger screen on the latest releases is enough to put me off (I hate the bigger screens), however I'm willing to look past that if it has enough decent new features and improvements. If not though, then I'm off to check out another make/model.

[jchamier]

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Originally Posted by Master Ozzy

I recently bought my Mum her first iPhone (the SE) and apart from the fingerprint feature and a bit of a better camera, there is literally no difference in my opinion and nothing that makes me want to upgrade.

I guess you don't need the much faster CPU and the insanely fast 4G on the 6s and SE models then? The 6s & SE are amazingly quick and have some stunning graphics capabilities for gaming that the 5 did not have.

[d123]

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Originally Posted by jchamier

I guess you don't need the much faster CPU and the insanely fast 4G on the 6s and SE models then? The 6s & SE are amazingly quick and have some stunning graphics capabilities for gaming that the 5 did not have.

Edit, I've deleted my comment, your selective quote makes your answer confusing, reading his post I see you are referring to the iPhone 5 (which isn't in the quote ).

[Stereo Steve]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Ozzy

If the iPhone 7 doesn't have a significant change/new feature (and I'm not talking about the way the phone looks) then I'm giving up on iPhone's and changing to a different make of phone. I love iPhone's and the interface and ease of use...there's many things I love about them, however I've had my iPhone 5 since it was first released and there is nothing on any of the models since then (5s, 6 and 6s) that makes me want to upgrade. I recently bought my Mum her first iPhone (the SE) and apart from the fingerprint feature and a bit of a better camera, there is literally no difference in my opinion and nothing that makes me want to upgrade. I've waited long enough now, so if there is no significant improvement/new features on the iPhone 7 then I'm off. The bigger screen on the latest releases is enough to put me off (I hate the bigger screens), however I'm willing to look past that if it has enough decent new features and improvements. If not though, then I'm off to check out another make/model.

What do you want then? You don't like big screens. Neither do I so at the mo, the SE looks like my weapon of choice. Great camera, good storage, fast and agile and all the VoLTE, Apple Pay.......whatever else.

What killer feature would you like to see on the 7?

PS: Don't say anything about girlfriends or trouser action.

[alanwarwic]

Much the opposite said here, and the move to a 3 year cycle understandable, if true.
The sales leap to phablets was a one time gain leaving the next revolution more difficult to muster.

Even a move to OLED is quite minor compaed to that phablet move.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/307...ree-years.html

[Broken Hope]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Ozzy

If the iPhone 7 doesn't have a significant change/new feature (and I'm not talking about the way the phone looks) then I'm giving up on iPhone's and changing to a different make of phone. I love iPhone's and the interface and ease of use...there's many things I love about them, however I've had my iPhone 5 since it was first released and there is nothing on any of the models since then (5s, 6 and 6s) that makes me want to upgrade. I recently bought my Mum her first iPhone (the SE) and apart from the fingerprint feature and a bit of a better camera, there is literally no difference in my opinion and nothing that makes me want to upgrade. I've waited long enough now, so if there is no significant improvement/new features on the iPhone 7 then I'm off. The bigger screen on the latest releases is enough to put me off (I hate the bigger screens), however I'm willing to look past that if it has enough decent new features and improvements. If not though, then I'm off to check out another make/model.

What features do the other makes of phone have?

There's not really a whole lot more features I can see phone manufacturers adding.

[B_W2]

Here's a fantastic wishlist for the IPhone 7, if it includes all these, I will be a customer!!

1. 10NM process tech- 70% more powerful CPU & GPU A10 SoC
2. Touch ID sensor integrated within display, at least four times as detailed ) from 500 to 2000 PPI
3. A big enough battery to outlast all major competitors (IP7 against GS7) & IP7+ against Samsung Note Etc
4. Cat 8 LTE, covers every conceivable band in the world
5. The same camera sensor tech as Galaxy S7 (improved if possible)
6. No hump from the camera.
7. 'Liquid metal' or super strength construction (at least 25% stronger than 6000 series Alu)
8. Finally a AMOLED display with the NATIVE resolution of the 6 plus/6S plus- I forgot what it is but it is downsampled to 1080p- this way it keeps the same scaling for apps and will provide incredible detail.
9. A superior form of OIS on all models
10. Fully dust tight and waterproof the same as SGS7
11. Fully compatible with wireless charging with a pad included in every IPhone package.

Get it released!!

[Stereo Steve]

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_W2

Here's a fantastic wishlist for the IPhone 7, if it includes all these, I will be a customer!!

1. 10NM process tech- 70% more powerful CPU & GPU A10 SoC
2. Touch ID sensor integrated within display, at least four times as detailed ) from 500 to 2000 PPI
3. A big enough battery to outlast all major competitors (IP7 against GS7) & IP7+ against Samsung Note Etc
4. Cat 8 LTE, covers every conceivable band in the world
5. The same camera sensor tech as Galaxy S7 (improved if possible)
6. No hump from the camera.
7. 'Liquid metal' or super strength construction (at least 25% stronger than 6000 series Alu)
8. Finally a AMOLED display with the NATIVE resolution of the 6 plus/6S plus- I forgot what it is but it is downsampled to 1080p- this way it keeps the same scaling for apps and will provide incredible detail.
9. A superior form of OIS on all models
10. Fully dust tight and waterproof the same as SGS7
11. Fully compatible with wireless charging with a pad included in every IPhone package.

Get it released!!

Not many of those things are going to interest the greater public though. Mind you, if there was a girlfriend app and the 3.5mm jack was spare. Eh? Nudge nudge. Wink wink. Eh? Eh? Know what I mean? Eh? Eh?

[calico_pie]

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Much the opposite said here, and the move to a 3 year cycle understandable, if true.
The sales leap to phablets was a one time gain leaving the next revolution more difficult to muster.

Even a move to OLED is quite minor compaed to that phablet move.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/307...ree-years.html

Much the opposite of what?

I don't know why the OP mentioned this year's, presumably, iPhone 7, because Cook didn't, at least in the article posted.

I though by now it was a given that it sounds like there will be bigger changes next year.

Although to be honest, the smartphone has matured so much now, that I don't know what people might need, want, or expect that will be both groundbreaking. Time will tell I guess - I suppose history is littered with things that people at the time thought must be the pinnacle of technology.

[calico_pie]

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_W2

Here's a fantastic wishlist for the IPhone 7, if it includes all these, I will be a customer!!

1. 10NM process tech- 70% more powerful CPU & GPU A10 SoC
2. Touch ID sensor integrated within display, at least four times as detailed ) from 500 to 2000 PPI
3. A big enough battery to outlast all major competitors (IP7 against GS7) & IP7+ against Samsung Note Etc
4. Cat 8 LTE, covers every conceivable band in the world
5. The same camera sensor tech as Galaxy S7 (improved if possible)
6. No hump from the camera.
7. 'Liquid metal' or super strength construction (at least 25% stronger than 6000 series Alu)
8. Finally a AMOLED display with the NATIVE resolution of the 6 plus/6S plus- I forgot what it is but it is downsampled to 1080p- this way it keeps the same scaling for apps and will provide incredible detail.
9. A superior form of OIS on all models
10. Fully dust tight and waterproof the same as SGS7
11. Fully compatible with wireless charging with a pad included in every IPhone package.

Get it released!!

I've really got to ask - what on earth would the benefit be of a 2000 PPI display on a 4-5" phone be?

[Broken Hope]

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

I've really got to ask - what on earth would the benefit be of a 2000 PPI display on a 4-5" phone be?

It's the Touch ID sensor that he wants to have a higher PPI, I'm guessing to make it more accurate, though the sensor in the 6S seems plenty fast and accurate as it is.

[jonmorris]

Are any modern fingerprint sensors poor? If I can unlock in half a second or less, like pressing a button, that's fine. Accuracy is important and I can't remember the last time I had one fail.

Thank god we moved on from the ones you needed to swipe over. Now they were unreliable!

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by Broken Hope

It's the Touch ID sensor that he wants to have a higher PPI, I'm guessing to make it more accurate, though the sensor in the 6S seems plenty fast and accurate as it is.

Ah, sorry. As you say, it already seems pretty quick on the 5S, and apparently quicker on the 6S, so as with PPI generally, there surely comes a point when the returns on further improvements are diminishing quite a bit.

[jonmorris]

There comes a point, like RAM in smartphones (we're up to 6GB on some Chinese phones now) where there's not really much benefit besides a higher number.

We're seeing fingerprint sensors quoted by levels now, which Huawei did most recently. Level 5 is better than Level 4 in the eyes of a consumer that knows nothing (and for this, I also know nothing and can't really be that bothered to find out more as I don't really write about security much).

I am sure that as time goes on, we'll see Samsung, Apple, Huawei and others all stating how much more secure their fingerprint sensors are - quoting military style protection - that is ridiculous for most consumers, but sounds good.

[Soundbox]

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

I've really got to ask - what on earth would the benefit be of a 2000 PPI display on a 4-5" phone be?

It would help to drain surplus power from the battery

[Master Ozzy]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchamier

I guess you don't need the much faster CPU and the insanely fast 4G on the 6s and SE models then? The 6s & SE are amazingly quick and have some stunning graphics capabilities for gaming that the 5 did not have.

I can get 4G on my iPhone 5 and it's fast enough. I don't play games on my phone really.

[Master Ozzy]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stereo Steve

What do you want then? You don't like big screens. Neither do I so at the mo, the SE looks like my weapon of choice. Great camera, good storage, fast and agile and all the VoLTE, Apple Pay.......whatever else.

What killer feature would you like to see on the 7?

PS: Don't say anything about girlfriends or trouser action.

Something major that I want is to be able to choose where I save a photo. If I'm saving a photo from say Facebook, Twitter or from the internet or even taking a screen shot, I want to be able to choose what album to save the photo in. It's incredible annoying having all the pictures saved in the camera roll and then having to go in and manually organise them all. By now you should be able to choose where you want to save a picture. Such a simple feature, yet they still haven't bothered to sort it out.

[jonmorris]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Ozzy

I can get 4G on my iPhone 5 and it's fast enough. I don't play games on my phone really.

Things like faster 4G (Cat 9, 10, 12 etc), faster Wi-Fi are things that might make some people upgrade. Certainly the rest of the hardware has pretty much exceeded the needs of the software and probably will for some time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Ozzy

Something major that I want is to be able to choose where I save a photo. If I'm saving a photo from say Facebook, Twitter or from the internet or even taking a screen shot, I want to be able to choose what album to save the photo in. It's incredible annoying having all the pictures saved in the camera roll and then having to go in and manually organise them all. By now you should be able to choose where you want to save a picture. Such a simple feature, yet they still haven't bothered to sort it out.

Google Photos does a lot of this already, and is getting a series of features added soon. I like the fact that the searching will also apply to video too. I do wish Photos on my Mac was a lot smarter - rather than dumber compared to iPhoto (not that I miss the sluggishness of iPhoto).

[Lyceum]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Ozzy

I can get 4G on my iPhone 5 and it's fast enough. I don't play games on my phone really.

So what features do you want on the new iPhone that will make you think yes I'll have that!

What other features do others makes of phone have that are enough to make you move away from iPhones.

Not being arsey just genuinely curious.

I have a 6s upgraded to it from a 5. It does the same as the 5 just faster. Although I do love the fingerprint scanner. But the 5 does the same as the first ever iPhone. Just faster. That's kind of what phones do. I can't think of a single feature any manufacturer had introduced for years now that's been a complete game changer and left their follow phone making companies shockingly behind the times. (and for those that can't see beyond the spec sheet I'm not talking octocore cpu's and 8 gig of ram with super 4K screens because let's be honest they mean 0 to the average phone user).

So I'm curious as to what it is that you actually want either from Apple or from a different manufacturer before you go yes! I'm upgrading.

[jonmorris]

What you need to do is sit back and think about something your phone can't do that you really would want it to do.

If you can't think of anything and need to wait until Apple, Samsung or someone else tells you, it probably isn't something you can't live without.

[Orangy]

My wish list for iPhones:
OLED

Improved camera, particularly low light

Better camera on the front

Official zoom attachment (doubt that would happen)

Better support for moving attachments, files etc around between apps and cloud storage

Less slippery without a case! The current design is fine but getting a bit same-y.

Customisable quick menu - I would swap calc for Bluetooth menu for example

Miracast support (again unlikely!)

Apple maps : show current speed limit and alternative routes when navigating

Siri: better understanding of punctuation when dictating

Customisable widgets instead of just pages of icons on their own

Better handling of power hungry apps- ability to throttle their CPU and memory usage - a 'Low Power Mode for current app', without having to throttle the whole device. Sometimes just launching and playing a game for 10 minutes can massively hit my battery, which is a pain if I'm out for the day.

HomeKit app.

Better tvOS control


Think that just about covers it!

[alanwarwic]

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Originally Posted by Soundbox

It would help to drain surplus power from the battery

Just like a big phablet screen

[Stereo Steve]

I was wondering last night if the SE is going to be a new theme. Maybe it means something? Smaller Example? Splattered Entrails? So maybe the 7 and 7 Plus will launch this year and then in 2017 we get the 7S, 7S Plus and the 7SE which is a smaller version of the standard 7 at a sensible price.

There must be a market for smaller phones.

[jonmorris]

The iPhone 7 SE will have a 2.4inch QVGA screen, while the iPhone 7s Plus will have a 55-inch curved OLED HDR display, with a new type of wall mount to turn it into an Apple TV.

The mount will be based on the standard VESA mount standards, but with the holes offset by enough to require you to buy a nicely styled mount designed by Ive himself.