iPhone SE battery seems pretty good

tdenson · 08-05-2016, 20:42

My wife got an SE last week and from Tuesday night to Friday night it went down to 51% without any charging. She's not a particularly heavy user but even so ...

jonmorris · 08-05-2016, 21:50

Beside the smaller screen using less power, presumably a smaller screen also means users generally won't be watching as much video or looking at photos?

While I've watched films on a 1.8-inch screen in years gone by (and it's not as terrible as you'd think!) I doubt I'd consume battery-sapping multimedia on anything under 5-inches today.

treefr0g · 09-05-2016, 00:02

This is my first smart phone and I've always been put off by the short battery life but this thing has a longer battery life than my previous flip phone and remarkably, way more than my iPod touch.

I'm very pleased with my purchase.

swordman · 09-05-2016, 16:53

truly amazing what old tech can still deliver.

I've also heard mopeds can offer better mpg than a Porsche, who knew.

d123 · 09-05-2016, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

truly amazing what old tech can still deliver.

I've also heard mopeds can offer better mpg than a Porsche, who knew.

Other than the fact the SE has virtually all 6s level internals you might have a point...

swordman · 09-05-2016, 17:28

When you place that Porsche engine in the moped you will find it gets a better mpg too

calico_pie · 09-05-2016, 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

truly amazing what old tech can still deliver.

I've also heard mopeds can offer better mpg than a Porsche, who knew.

What old tech is that then?

swordman · 09-05-2016, 23:46

You need to read up more on your beloved iPhone if you don't know the answer to that. Does make you wonder why you keep posting with such clear knowledge gaps

calico_pie · 09-05-2016, 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

You need to read up more on your beloved iPhone if you don't know the answer to that. Does make you wonder why you keep posting with such clear knowledge gaps

Well, I was under the impression the SE had virtually all internal components as the 6S, which would make virtually all of the tech current, and not old at all.

So maybe its you who needs to do the reading up, as you seem incapable of understanding that although something might loo the same on the outside, it could contain different components on the inside.

So I ask again - what is all the old tech in the SE?

kidspud · 10-05-2016, 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

truly amazing what old tech can still deliver.

I've also heard mopeds can offer better mpg than a Porsche, who knew.

I see DS Forums is still filling that void in your life, but you still have nothing to say

swordman · 10-05-2016, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by calico_pie

Well, I was under the impression the SE had virtually all internal components as the 6S, which would make virtually all of the tech current, and not old at all.

So maybe its you who needs to do the reading up, as you seem incapable of understanding that although something might loo the same on the outside, it could contain different components on the inside.

So I ask again - what is all the old tech in the SE?

Well after you've applied your own reality to any apple related topic simply remove the "virtually" from the equation what you have left must be the actual reality.

AxeVictim · 10-05-2016, 13:04

The only thing they didn't upgrade internally was the 1.2MP front facing camera.

Bentoni · 10-05-2016, 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

Beside the smaller screen using less power, presumably a smaller screen also means users generally won't be watching as much video or looking at photos?

While I've watched films on a 1.8-inch screen in years gone by (and it's not as terrible as you'd think!) I doubt I'd consume battery-sapping multimedia on anything under 5-inches today.

The A9 processor in SE are smaller, hence more efficient in terms of power usage. I believe some of the A9 chip manufactured in 14nm tech

jonmorris · 10-05-2016, 13:42

That's likely very true but my point was that not everyone wants to watch films and play power hungry games etc (if they do, I'd argue they'd get the 6s or 6s plus) so in addition to a smaller display, the hardware won't be pushed as hard - thus better battery life.

If you reduce screen on time, you get a massive boost in battery on just about everything. Or, should I correct myself and say that it's the only way you'll ever come close to the figures quoted by manufacturers.

calico_pie · 10-05-2016, 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

Well after you've applied your own reality to any apple related topic simply remove the "virtually" from the equation what you have left must be the actual reality.

OK - so you're basing your whole argument on the front facing camera, which is the only noticeable old tech component in the SE. You could also add the first gen touch ID, which adds about half a second to unlocking the phone.

So as usual, not much of an argument, and you are just wasting people's time.

Still, there does remain a comedy element in seeing you talk crap. So there is that.

calico_pie · 10-05-2016, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

That's likely very true but my point was that not everyone wants to watch films and play power hungry games etc (if they do, I'd argue they'd get the 6s or 6s plus) so in addition to a smaller display, the hardware won't be pushed as hard - thus better battery life.

If you reduce screen on time, you get a massive boost in battery on just about everything. Or, should I correct myself and say that it's the only way you'll ever come close to the figures quoted by manufacturers.

You seem to be arguing that the battery life on the SE only appears to be good because people are not using the screen as much as they do on the larger iPhones.

But that misses the point that the battery life on the SE is significantly better than the battery life on the 5S - two phones with the same sized screen.

swordman · 10-05-2016, 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by calico_pie

OK - so you're basing your whole argument on the front facing camera...........

Am I

amazing that this distortion field actually extends to what other people are thinking and saying. Your post quality does remain consistent though

calico_pie · 10-05-2016, 14:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

Am I

amazing that this distortion field actually extends to what other people are thinking and saying. Your post quality does remain consistent though

I don't even know what the hell you are talking about or what point you are trying to make.

I'll ask you again then:

What old tech are you referring to in post 4.

If you don't want to actually discuss anything sensibly, I don't know why you bother to post anything at all.

jonmorris · 10-05-2016, 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by calico_pie

You seem to be arguing that the battery life on the SE only appears to be good because people are not using the screen as much as they do on the larger iPhones.

But that misses the point that the battery life on the SE is significantly better than the battery life on the 5S - two phones with the same sized screen.

How is it missing the point? It's a different chipset, and one that consumes less power.

That will make a difference, but only to a point. If you use the screen a lot (and use it for power intensive tasks) then even a more modern SoC will struggle. It's not something Apple can do anything about, besides looking to reduce power consumption on screen tech (such as OLED) and more efficient GPUs for when playing games.

swordman · 10-05-2016, 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by calico_pie

I don't even know what the hell you are talking about or what point you are trying to make.
I'll ask you again then:
What old tech are you referring to in post 4.
If you don't want to actually discuss anything sensibly, I don't know why you bother to post anything at all.

Feel entirely free not to respond to me at all.

Again I have no wish to play your list games, I stand by my analogy of a Porsche engine in a moped. You would expect more mpg from it.

It does seem you are saying Apple have, however, found some magical formula with this phone and its battery life. Surely you're not that impressionable are you

corf · 10-05-2016, 14:49

But you haven't clarified "Old Tech"

the a9 running on samsung 14nm wafer is not old tech whichever way you look at it.

calico_pie · 10-05-2016, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

Feel entirely free not to respond to me at all.

Again I have no wish to play your list games, I stand by my analogy of a Porsche engine in a moped. You would expect more mpg from it.

It does seem you are saying Apple have, however, found some magical formula with this phone and its battery life. Surely you're not that impressionable are you

You seem to be under the impression that the only factor involved in battery life is the battery technology.

Apple haven't found some magical formula, but in the time since the 5S was released have greatly improved the power efficiency of the processors used in the phones.

calico_pie · 10-05-2016, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

How is it missing the point? It's a different chipset, and one that consumes less power.

That will make a difference, but only to a point. If you use the screen a lot (and use it for power intensive tasks) then even a more modern SoC will struggle. It's not something Apple can do anything about, besides looking to reduce power consumption on screen tech (such as OLED) and more efficient GPUs for when playing games.

The point is that all things being equal, the battery life on the SE is better than the life on the 5S.

It isn't just better when you compare different usage patterns between users.

If someone hardly watched any video / played any games on their 5S and hardly watches any video / plays any games on their SE, the battery life will be better on the SE.

If someone watched a lot of video / played a lot of games on their 5S and watches a lot of video / plays a lot of games on their SE, the battery life will be better on the SE.

swordman · 10-05-2016, 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by calico_pie

You seem to be under the impression that the only factor involved in battery life is the battery technology.

Apple haven't found some magical formula, but in the time since the 5S was released have greatly improved the power efficiency of the processors used in the phones.

Having placed a new processor in an old phone which doesn't contain any updates on the main battery draining elements means more battery life

shocker. This is not about the 5s it is about the OP statement. Perhaps you can explain why this SE gets better battery life than a 6s you claim it "virtually" mirrors? .

The fact Apple can do this and people are somehow wowed is the real magical trick

calico_pie · 10-05-2016, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

Having placed a new processor in an old phone which doesn't contain any updates on the main battery draining elements means more battery life

shocker. This is not about the 5s it is about the OP statement. Perhaps you can explain why this SE gets better battery life than a 6s you claim it "virtually" mirrors? .

The fact Apple can do this and people are somehow wowed is the real magical trick

I didn't say the SE gets better battery life than the 6S.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make in this thread - the OP posted about the good battery life in the SE and you did what you always do - weigh in with some negative whining about Apple.

Whatever floats your boat I suppose.

08-05-2016, 20:42	#1
tdenson Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,214	iPhone SE battery seems pretty good My wife got an SE last week and from Tuesday night to Friday night it went down to 51% without any charging. She's not a particularly heavy user but even so ...

08-05-2016, 21:50	#2
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Beside the smaller screen using less power, presumably a smaller screen also means users generally won't be watching as much video or looking at photos? While I've watched films on a 1.8-inch screen in years gone by (and it's not as terrible as you'd think!) I doubt I'd consume battery-sapping multimedia on anything under 5-inches today.

09-05-2016, 00:02	#3
treefr0g Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10,342	This is my first smart phone and I've always been put off by the short battery life but this thing has a longer battery life than my previous flip phone and remarkably, way more than my iPod touch. I'm very pleased with my purchase.

09-05-2016, 16:53	#4
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	truly amazing what old tech can still deliver. I've also heard mopeds can offer better mpg than a Porsche, who knew.

09-05-2016, 17:16	#5
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman truly amazing what old tech can still deliver. I've also heard mopeds can offer better mpg than a Porsche, who knew. Other than the fact the SE has virtually all 6s level internals you might have a point...

09-05-2016, 17:28	#6
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	When you place that Porsche engine in the moped you will find it gets a better mpg too

09-05-2016, 17:39	#7
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman truly amazing what old tech can still deliver. I've also heard mopeds can offer better mpg than a Porsche, who knew. What old tech is that then?

09-05-2016, 23:46	#8
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	You need to read up more on your beloved iPhone if you don't know the answer to that. Does make you wonder why you keep posting with such clear knowledge gaps

09-05-2016, 23:56	#9
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman You need to read up more on your beloved iPhone if you don't know the answer to that. Does make you wonder why you keep posting with such clear knowledge gaps Well, I was under the impression the SE had virtually all internal components as the 6S, which would make virtually all of the tech current, and not old at all. So maybe its you who needs to do the reading up, as you seem incapable of understanding that although something might loo the same on the outside, it could contain different components on the inside. So I ask again - what is all the old tech in the SE?

10-05-2016, 09:59	#10
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman truly amazing what old tech can still deliver. I've also heard mopeds can offer better mpg than a Porsche, who knew. I see DS Forums is still filling that void in your life, but you still have nothing to say

10-05-2016, 12:41	#11
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie Well, I was under the impression the SE had virtually all internal components as the 6S, which would make virtually all of the tech current, and not old at all. So maybe its you who needs to do the reading up, as you seem incapable of understanding that although something might loo the same on the outside, it could contain different components on the inside. So I ask again - what is all the old tech in the SE? Well after you've applied your own reality to any apple related topic simply remove the "virtually" from the equation what you have left must be the actual reality.

10-05-2016, 13:04	#12
AxeVictim Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,644	The only thing they didn't upgrade internally was the 1.2MP front facing camera.

10-05-2016, 13:37	#13
Bentoni Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 55	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris Beside the smaller screen using less power, presumably a smaller screen also means users generally won't be watching as much video or looking at photos? While I've watched films on a 1.8-inch screen in years gone by (and it's not as terrible as you'd think!) I doubt I'd consume battery-sapping multimedia on anything under 5-inches today. The A9 processor in SE are smaller, hence more efficient in terms of power usage. I believe some of the A9 chip manufactured in 14nm tech

10-05-2016, 13:42	#14
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	That's likely very true but my point was that not everyone wants to watch films and play power hungry games etc (if they do, I'd argue they'd get the 6s or 6s plus) so in addition to a smaller display, the hardware won't be pushed as hard - thus better battery life. If you reduce screen on time, you get a massive boost in battery on just about everything. Or, should I correct myself and say that it's the only way you'll ever come close to the figures quoted by manufacturers.

10-05-2016, 13:55	#15
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman Well after you've applied your own reality to any apple related topic simply remove the "virtually" from the equation what you have left must be the actual reality. OK - so you're basing your whole argument on the front facing camera, which is the only noticeable old tech component in the SE. You could also add the first gen touch ID, which adds about half a second to unlocking the phone. So as usual, not much of an argument, and you are just wasting people's time. Still, there does remain a comedy element in seeing you talk crap. So there is that.

10-05-2016, 13:58	#16
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris That's likely very true but my point was that not everyone wants to watch films and play power hungry games etc (if they do, I'd argue they'd get the 6s or 6s plus) so in addition to a smaller display, the hardware won't be pushed as hard - thus better battery life. If you reduce screen on time, you get a massive boost in battery on just about everything. Or, should I correct myself and say that it's the only way you'll ever come close to the figures quoted by manufacturers. You seem to be arguing that the battery life on the SE only appears to be good because people are not using the screen as much as they do on the larger iPhones. But that misses the point that the battery life on the SE is significantly better than the battery life on the 5S - two phones with the same sized screen.

10-05-2016, 14:01	#17
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie OK - so you're basing your whole argument on the front facing camera........... Am I amazing that this distortion field actually extends to what other people are thinking and saying. Your post quality does remain consistent though

10-05-2016, 14:09	#18
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman Am I amazing that this distortion field actually extends to what other people are thinking and saying. Your post quality does remain consistent though I don't even know what the hell you are talking about or what point you are trying to make. I'll ask you again then: What old tech are you referring to in post 4. If you don't want to actually discuss anything sensibly, I don't know why you bother to post anything at all.

10-05-2016, 14:16	#19
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie You seem to be arguing that the battery life on the SE only appears to be good because people are not using the screen as much as they do on the larger iPhones. But that misses the point that the battery life on the SE is significantly better than the battery life on the 5S - two phones with the same sized screen. How is it missing the point? It's a different chipset, and one that consumes less power. That will make a difference, but only to a point. If you use the screen a lot (and use it for power intensive tasks) then even a more modern SoC will struggle. It's not something Apple can do anything about, besides looking to reduce power consumption on screen tech (such as OLED) and more efficient GPUs for when playing games.

10-05-2016, 14:24	#20
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie I don't even know what the hell you are talking about or what point you are trying to make. I'll ask you again then: What old tech are you referring to in post 4. If you don't want to actually discuss anything sensibly, I don't know why you bother to post anything at all. Feel entirely free not to respond to me at all. Again I have no wish to play your list games, I stand by my analogy of a Porsche engine in a moped. You would expect more mpg from it. It does seem you are saying Apple have, however, found some magical formula with this phone and its battery life. Surely you're not that impressionable are you

10-05-2016, 14:49	#21
corf Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,458	But you haven't clarified "Old Tech" the a9 running on samsung 14nm wafer is not old tech whichever way you look at it.

10-05-2016, 14:54	#22
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman Feel entirely free not to respond to me at all. Again I have no wish to play your list games, I stand by my analogy of a Porsche engine in a moped. You would expect more mpg from it. It does seem you are saying Apple have, however, found some magical formula with this phone and its battery life. Surely you're not that impressionable are you You seem to be under the impression that the only factor involved in battery life is the battery technology. Apple haven't found some magical formula, but in the time since the 5S was released have greatly improved the power efficiency of the processors used in the phones.

10-05-2016, 14:57	#23
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris How is it missing the point? It's a different chipset, and one that consumes less power. That will make a difference, but only to a point. If you use the screen a lot (and use it for power intensive tasks) then even a more modern SoC will struggle. It's not something Apple can do anything about, besides looking to reduce power consumption on screen tech (such as OLED) and more efficient GPUs for when playing games. The point is that all things being equal, the battery life on the SE is better than the life on the 5S. It isn't just better when you compare different usage patterns between users. If someone hardly watched any video / played any games on their 5S and hardly watches any video / plays any games on their SE, the battery life will be better on the SE. If someone watched a lot of video / played a lot of games on their 5S and watches a lot of video / plays a lot of games on their SE, the battery life will be better on the SE.

10-05-2016, 17:06	#24
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie You seem to be under the impression that the only factor involved in battery life is the battery technology. Apple haven't found some magical formula, but in the time since the 5S was released have greatly improved the power efficiency of the processors used in the phones. Having placed a new processor in an old phone which doesn't contain any updates on the main battery draining elements means more battery life shocker. This is not about the 5s it is about the OP statement. Perhaps you can explain why this SE gets better battery life than a 6s you claim it "virtually" mirrors? . The fact Apple can do this and people are somehow wowed is the real magical trick

10-05-2016, 19:38	#25
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman Having placed a new processor in an old phone which doesn't contain any updates on the main battery draining elements means more battery life shocker. This is not about the 5s it is about the OP statement. Perhaps you can explain why this SE gets better battery life than a 6s you claim it "virtually" mirrors? . The fact Apple can do this and people are somehow wowed is the real magical trick I didn't say the SE gets better battery life than the 6S. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make in this thread - the OP posted about the good battery life in the SE and you did what you always do - weigh in with some negative whining about Apple. Whatever floats your boat I suppose.