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Sounds like they've ran out of ideas and are just going to ruin the entire franchise now before it crumbles.
Why are some people (the people that make these decisions) allowed to be employed? But of course like many things, they've waited so long to do this that now they're playing with people's love and nostalgia for the original 151, and messing with people's nostalgia has proven time and time again to be a very dangerous thing, if they pull this off it could be immense, but it could very easily blow up in their face with many writing off the new gen immediately. Personally, what worries me more is they've now ditched gyms entirely and possibly even the Elite Four (though that part is pure speculation on my side), which is far more concerning, as that's a core gameplay element that this entire franchise has been built upon, just thrown out the window. |
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I'm not surprised they're trying to appeal to Gen 1 players, it has been between 17 and 20 years, depending on where you are in the world, since the original games were released. Gen 1 players are now adults with jobs and money, many younger players still rely on their parents.
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To be honest I think depending on how they pull this off it could be an interesting concept, seems to be based on how Darwin found that birds on certain islands evolved differently, so I think that's what they're going for, which begs the question why they didn't do it sooner.
I doubt the original 151 will be touched, you'll no doubt be able to catch/use a normal Arcanine or Vulpix. It's just now you've got a different option should you so wish it. Still stupid though! Quote:
Personally, what worries me more is they've now ditched gyms entirely and possibly even the Elite Four (though that part is pure speculation on my side), which is far more concerning, as that's a core gameplay element that this entire franchise has been built upon, just thrown out the window.
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The thing is, it's all great and what not doing this, but if they suddenly give the 600+ existing Pokémon different forms, that's a lot of unnecessary additions.
I doubt the original 151 will be touched, you'll no doubt be able to catch/use a normal Arcanine or Vulpix. It's just now you've got a different option should you so wish it. Still stupid though! However not all of the original 151 are getting alternate forms, they're picking a select number from each generation, including the recent X and Y Pokémon to get Alola Forms, so expect something from every Generation to get alternate designs and typing. Quote:
Oh? I wasn't aware of this.
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It's being strongly rumoured (no official source yet unfortunately) that you won't be able to obtain the original forms of the respective "Alola Form" Pokémon unless you transfer their original forms from X, Y, Omega Ruby or Alpha Sapphire.
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However not all of the original 151 are getting alternate forms, they're picking a select number from each generation, including the recent X and Y Pokémon to get Alola Forms, so expect something from every Generation to get alternate designs and typing.
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It would be quite something if they reworked all 151 (though they've kind of already done that with a bunch of the mega evos). Still, this wont be the last game in the franchise, and you can bet it's only a matter of time before Blastoise becomes Water/Steel, and Charizard becomes Fire/Dragon in a new regional form.
Also, Water/Steel Blastoise?? Hells yes, sign me up for that right away! |
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I've always felt sorry for the starters who never got a duel typing when the others in their generations do like Blastoise in Generation 1, none in Generation 2 all single typing, Sceptile (before the Mega Evolution) in Generation 3, none in Generation 4 all starters got a duel typing, Generation 5 Serperior and Samurott and again none in Generation 6 all duel typing.
Hopefully Popplio and Litten get a second typing this Generation as well. |
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Also, Water/Steel Blastoise?? Hells yes, sign me up for that right away!
I wish (in hindsight) that they'd just reboot everything, rather than create a bunch of (re)envisioned Pokémon that they don't need to do. Do away with these lame new designs, and do away with the mega evos too. Put Charizard as a Fire/Dragon, Blastoise as Water/Steel, Gyarados can remain Water/Flying, but then use his mega as a third evolution and change it to Flying/Dragon. Get rid of Magby, Elekid, and all those other babies. Same goes for the top forms. Electabuzz, Magmar (etc) were perfectly fine as they were. Their Jr's & Sr's merely spoilt them! Ninetails can still be Fire/Fairy, Arcanine can be Fire/Fight, or Fire/Ground. Luxray could become Electric/Dark. Then they can limit the Legendary Pokémon to 5 per region; some of the later games have a stupid amount. I) Mew, Mewtwo, Zappy, Articuno & Moltres II) Ho-Oh, Lugia, Raikou, Entei and Suicune III) Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Latios and Latias IV) Celebi, Victini, Cresselia, Darkrai and Giratina V) Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus, Reshiram and Zekrom I don't know enough about Gen VI to cast an opinion. |
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That's one of the better things they could do.
I wish (in hindsight) that they'd just reboot everything, rather than create a bunch of (re)envisioned Pokémon that they don't need to do. Do away with these lame new designs, and do away with the mega evos too. Put Charizard as a Fire/Dragon, Blastoise as Water/Steel, Gyarados can remain Water/Flying, but then use his mega as a third evolution and change it to Flying/Dragon. Get rid of Magby, Elekid, and all those other babies. Same goes for the top forms. Electabuzz, Magmar (etc) were perfectly fine as they were. Their Jr's & Sr's merely spoilt them! Ninetails can still be Fire/Fairy, Arcanine can be Fire/Fight, or Fire/Ground. Luxray could become Electric/Dark. Then they can limit the Legendary Pokémon to 5 per region; some of the later games have a stupid amount. I) Mew, Mewtwo, Zappy, Articuno & Moltres II) Ho-Oh, Lugia, Raikou, Entei and Suicune III) Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Latios and Latias IV) Celebi, Victini, Cresselia, Darkrai and Giratina V) Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus, Reshiram and Zekrom I don't know enough about Gen VI to cast an opinion. I don't think they should reboot the franchise though, that would just cause an unprecedented shit storm imo, so many people absolutely love the later games, I've seen a huge number of fans for Black and White in particular, which was imo easily the single worst gen by quite a long way. So many of those fans are contrarians who want to rebel against "gen wunners" but there are people who genuinely love the new stuff, so if that was taken away.... yeah there'd be hell to pay. About your legendary point though, if they were to ever do a NX game that brought all regions together, I think they should definitely limit the number of legendaries that appear, because otherwise you have I think it's around 30 (?) legendaries in one game, and that just reduces their "Wow factor" considerably. So what I would suggest in that scenario is have 3 legendaries per region (the birds for Kanto. The dogs for Johto. The Regis for Hoenn. The fairies for Sinnoh. Coballion, Virizion and Terrakion for Unova. Xerneas, Yveltal and Zygarde for Kalos) and then have Mewtwo, Mew, Rayquaza and Arceus as the overarching "super" legendaries. |
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I don't think they should reboot the franchise though, that would just cause an unprecedented shit storm imo, so many people absolutely love the later games, I've seen a huge number of fans for Black and White in particular, which was imo easily the single worst gen by quite a long way. So many of those fans are contrarians who want to rebel against "gen wunners" but there are people who genuinely love the new stuff, so if that was taken away.... yeah there'd be hell to pay.
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About your legendary point though, if they were to ever do a NX game that brought all regions together, I think they should definitely limit the number of legendaries that appear, because otherwise you have I think it's around 30 (?) legendaries in one game, and that just reduces their "Wow factor" considerably.
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I didn't mean reboot and only release the 151. I meant reboot, but reshuffle. They could better organize their alt evolutions and alt forms a bit better then.
I think Gen IV had like 14? Far too many. Considering how shite some of them were too... That way you get the first 3 gens for all the people who love the old games, but you get to experience them in new ways which would appeal to those who wanna experience something new. As for the late game legendaries? Rayquaza was the last genuinely good one imo, from Deoxys onwards it just got a bit silly and too much. Especially in Gen 4 and Gen 5, where the term "legendary" lost all meaning. They reeled it back in Gen 6 by only introducing 3 new legendaries in that generation, but still... |
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I've decided I'm changing my teams (slightly) for Sun and Moon it's now:
Sun: Popplio Drampa Rockruff Salandit Mudbray - Mudsdale Moon: Litten Pikipek |
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On Serebii.net new leaks off Pokemon have been released: Quote:
The first images from CoroCoro have leaked and have revealed the latest news on Sun & Moon. As always, do note that translations are preliminary while we work on them. The little sandcastle is called Sunabaa while the big one is called Shirodesuna. Both are Ghost/Ground-type. Pre-evolved Bewear is called Nuikoguma and remains Normal/Fighting-type. and the fish is Yowashi is Water-type and appears to have the ability to change its appearance into a larger fish. It also confirms Alolan Meowth & Marowak. Alolan Meowth is Dark-type while Alolan Marowak is Fire/Ghost-type. We also see the first bits of the antagonist team, Team Skull. Its boss is called Guzma and the girl is Plumeri It also confirms that next month's issue will contain a poster featuring Rockruff's "Secret Evolution". Alolan Meowth developed after being bred by the royal family of Alola. Alolan Marowak developed in response to its natural predators in order to resist them We'll bring more as it comes http://www.serebii.net/corocoro9161.jpg http://www.serebii.net/corocoro9162.jpg http://www.serebii.net/corocoro9163.jpg http://www.serebii.net/corocoro9164.jpg Two sandcastle Pokemon. ![]() ![]() Team Skull are the antagonists this time. |
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Appears we've got a new form of Cubone/Marowak too; possibly Ice/Dark if I had to guess. Same for Meowth, unless it's just a female version (and they turn the existing one into male only). Quote:
Two sandcastle Pokemon.
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Appears we've got a new form of Cubone/Marowak too; possibly Ice/Dark if I had to guess. Same for Meowth, unless it's just a female version (and they turn the existing one into male only).
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Alolan Raichu bitches!!!!
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Alolan Raichu bitches!!!!
Also, pleased for Raichu fans in general. GameFreak's been neglecting Raichu in place of Pikachu since Gold and Silver, to such an extent that I was fully expecting Pikachu to get a Mega Evolution and not Raichu. |
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Alola Marowak looks insane! Like the typing too.
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I like they've decided to change things up a bit.
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New Pokemon revealed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFWLoyZESAc Turtonator is a Fire/Dragon type: http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us...on/turtonator/ |
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More Pokemon revealed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1hsh267tUM Crabrawler is a Fighting type: http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us...on/crabrawler/ The two Sandcastle Pokemon are called Sandygast and (it's evolution) Palossand http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/sandygast/ http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/palossand/ Finally the Pre-evolution of Bewear is called Stufful http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/stufful/ |
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I wonder if Go will increase sales or decrease sales?
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You can get a special gift Munchlax (holding Snorlium Z!) early in your journey in Pokemon Sun and Moon.
Also new Dark/Normal type Alolan form Rattata. (That 4x weakness to fighting though )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-yepgNFPoQ |
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New trailer featuring new Pokemon, Ultra Beasts and the Aether Foundation Debut:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFbMGKvN6ts Type: Null is a Normal type. Jangmo-o is a Dragon type Alola Form Raticate is a Dark/Normal type like Rattata. An Ultra Beast called UB-01. Pokemon Sun and Moon are set 12 hours apart and certain events will play out differently. Some new characters introduced: The Aether Foundation are Lusamine (Aether's Glamorous President), Faba (Aether's Branch Chief), Wicke (Assistant Branch Chief) and also Aether's Foundation Employees. Also Team Skull's Enforcer Gladion. |
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On Serebii.net new CoroCoro Pokemon leaked have been released: Quote:
The first images from CoroCoro have leaked and have revealed the latest news on Sun & Moon. As always, do note that translations are preliminary while we work on them. http://www.serebii.net/corocoro10161.jpgThe name of the Pokémon Rockruff evolves into is Lugarugan and has a different appearance based on if it evolves in Day or in Night. It notes that Rockruff becomes the Midday Form when bathed in the rays of the sun and when full of the night's power, it becomes the Midnight Form. No types or further details have been given There are also two Ultra Beasts called UB02, UB02 Beauty and UB02 Expansion. 10:41: In the scan, it shows UB02 Expansion appearing in Pokémon Sun, facing off against Tapu Koko and UB02 Beauty facing off against Tapu Koko in Pokémon Moon. 10:45: It also states that UB01's name is a mystery but may have a deep meaning 10:58: It also reveals that it will show the true strength of the new Pokémon, Type: Null, during its next issue We'll bring more as it comes http://www.serebii.net/corocoro10162.jpg http://www.serebii.net/corocoro10163.jpg http://www.serebii.net/corocoro10164.jpg UB01 looks like it might be Lillie and UB02 Beauty looks like it might be Lusamine. ![]() I like both Rockruff's Day and Night evolutions. |
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