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Old 13-08-2016, 14:04
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Artem did have Lea and Mischa wasn't so bad on paper.
Tristan got the raw end of the stick most times he was there, but Dorothy Hamill could have gotten far if she wasn't injured and on SCD, they tried him with a contender but he failed miserably.
Sasha's never had a contender but it depends on height. I hope he gets the gymnast this season.
Tony's older than most of the pros and they pushed him and Melissa to the trophy at All Stars. Even then, Marla wasn't so bad, Leah Remini was a middler, Chynna Phillips and Audrina were pretty good, he had Stacy Keibler in his first season, Jane Seymour and Marissa were good too. Hell, even NeNe Leakes wasn't terrible.
Keo, well, he had a big ringer with Jodie and I think he grew a lot with her, but all the early outs? No one could have helped Lolo, she just had a terrible attitude. Charlotte could have been good but he was too easy with her and Chaka could have gone far as she was a huge name.
That being said though, Val's had clear ringers for about 7 seasons in a row so a duffer is due.
Mischa may have looked good on paper but was terrible
Jamelia wasn't liked no matter who her pro was
Sasha could have had so many good celebs including Meryl but hasn't yet
Tony never gets winners or finalists Melissa was a last minute replacement for someone who was injured
Keo I don't rate as a teacher as you said should have done better with Charlotte and Chaka and to me with Jodie too

All I was saying was after Derek Val has been given the most ringers/ contenders and deserves to be given a duffer. Comparing Val's 'duffer' to any of pro worst contestant and Val still had a better chance. Btw he won't get a duffer
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Old 13-08-2016, 16:00
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[quote=kp2ni;83570488]Mischa may have looked good on paper but was terrible
Jamelia wasn't liked no matter who her pro was
Sasha could have had so many good celebs including Meryl but hasn't yet
Tony never gets winners or finalists Melissa was a last minute replacement for someone who was injured
Keo I don't rate as a teacher as you said should have done better with Charlotte and Chaka and to me with Jodie too

All I was saying was after Derek Val has been given the most ringers/ contenders and deserves to be given a duffer. Comparing Val's 'duffer' to any of pro worst contestant and Val still had a better chance. Btw he won't get a duffer[/QUOTE]

how do you know for certain?
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Old 13-08-2016, 16:01
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I mean if Elisabetta is the worst celeb Val ever had then he never really had a duffer people didn't like her for other reasons than dancing and she could at least move. I was obviously not talking about Lea
Patti was not a duffer on paper
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Old 13-08-2016, 18:04
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Patti was not a duffer on paper
She was, but she was a fun duffer and provided a fun experience for Artem, unlike last season with Mischa.
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Old 13-08-2016, 19:59
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Mischa may have looked good on paper but was terrible
Jamelia wasn't liked no matter who her pro was
Sasha could have had so many good celebs including Meryl but hasn't yet
Tony never gets winners or finalists Melissa was a last minute replacement for someone who was injured
Keo I don't rate as a teacher as you said should have done better with Charlotte and Chaka and to me with Jodie too

All I was saying was after Derek Val has been given the most ringers/ contenders and deserves to be given a duffer. Comparing Val's 'duffer' to any of pro worst contestant and Val still had a better chance. Btw he won't get a duffer[/QUOTE]

how do you know for certain?
Because that is how dwts works I can't remember the last time Derek, Mark, Val or Maks had a first couple of weeks out duffer
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Old 13-08-2016, 20:53
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Because that is how dwts works I can't remember the last time Derek, Mark, Val or Maks had a first couple of weeks out duffer
Maks has never had an obvious duffer, although he has had a few slightly older ladies like Kirstie Alley and Melissa Gilbert and also some early outs, like Debi Mazar and Denise Richards.
Derek's never had an obvious duffer either, the only mature lady he's had was Jennifer who was known for being in a movie called 'Dirty Dancing. He did a good job with Amy Purdy and he has had some young ones but not obvious contenders like Joanna Krupa and Maria Menounos to name a few. I suppose Ricki Lake could have gone either way, but she was overhyped, IMO.
Mark's NEVER had an older partner. Kim K was rubbish and so was Bristol and he was 1st out with Shannen Doherty and also an early bath with Kristin Cavallari and Melissa Joan Hart but that's all the bad partners he's had. Candace was OK and I suppose Sadie and Willow could have gone either way but he's had lots of ringers. Nobody that's close to an obvious dud.
Val's only had Elisabetta, who is no different to some of Derek's partners and Sherri Shepherd as an early out. He's a good teacher though, he did well with Kelly Monaco although from Zendaya onwards, he's not been challenged at all.
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Old 13-08-2016, 23:55
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Maks has never had an obvious duffer, although he has had a few slightly older ladies like Kirstie Alley and Melissa Gilbert and also some early outs, like Debi Mazar and Denise Richards.
Derek's never had an obvious duffer either, the only mature lady he's had was Jennifer who was known for being in a movie called 'Dirty Dancing. He did a good job with Amy Purdy and he has had some young ones but not obvious contenders like Joanna Krupa and Maria Menounos to name a few. I suppose Ricki Lake could have gone either way, but she was overhyped, IMO.
Mark's NEVER had an older partner. Kim K was rubbish and so was Bristol and he was 1st out with Shannen Doherty and also an early bath with Kristin Cavallari and Melissa Joan Hart but that's all the bad partners he's had. Candace was OK and I suppose Sadie and Willow could have gone either way but he's had lots of ringers. Nobody that's close to an obvious dud.
Val's only had Elisabetta, who is no different to some of Derek's partners and Sherri Shepherd as an early out. He's a good teacher though, he did well with Kelly Monaco although from Zendaya onwards, he's not been challenged at all.
Agree with most if not all of this that why I can't see Mark or Val getting a duffer, producers come and go and they still seem to have the same unfair way of picking celebs for male pros nothing changes for those top 4 male pros so they never get real duds
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Old 14-08-2016, 08:05
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I'm thrilled theres only a couple of weeks before we find out the line up
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Old 25-08-2016, 15:46
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She was, but she was a fun duffer and provided a fun experience for Artem, unlike last season with Mischa.
Hey. I think for who is due what Surley we're gonna agree on Maksim Duffer?
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Old 25-08-2016, 16:30
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Hey. I think for who is due what Surley we're gonna agree on Maksim Duffer?
If he is in, yes. He has had a few weaker partners over his time, but after winning with Meryl (ringiest ringer that ever rang) and being gone for many seasons (just like Anna, Louis, Edyta), he should get a dud.
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Old 25-08-2016, 16:41
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If he is in, yes. He has had a few weaker partners over his time, but after winning with Meryl (ringiest ringer that ever rang) and being gone for many seasons (just like Anna, Louis, Edyta), he should get a dud.
yeah he's in but& correct me if I'm wrong doesn't he get treated the same as Derek, Mark& Co?
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Old 25-08-2016, 16:44
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There's a pic on Instagram of Maks taking a selfie with Amber Rose (in dancing costume) so he could have her. She looks pretty tall.
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Old 25-08-2016, 16:49
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if so then he has a ringer again IMO. do we know who the last 3 pros could be?
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Old 25-08-2016, 17:08
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yeah he's in but& correct me if I'm wrong doesn't he get treated the same as Derek, Mark& Co?
Denise Richards, Debi Mazar, Hope Solo, Melissa Gilbert and to some degree, Kirstie Alley were all weaker dancers. Mark's had Kim K, Bristol and a few shock early exits, but Val and Derek have had very little in the way of duds.
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Old 25-08-2016, 17:19
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Denise Richards, Debi Mazar, Hope Solo, Melissa Gilbert and to some degree, Kirstie Alley were all weaker dancers. Mark's had Kim K, Bristol and a few shock early exits, but Val and Derek have had very little in the way of duds.
so I take that as a no then?
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Old 25-08-2016, 18:32
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Tony's out for the season per his twitter.
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Old 26-08-2016, 21:34
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Derek- DUFFER
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Old 26-08-2016, 21:52
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Agree but we know it wont happen will it?
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Old 28-08-2016, 04:44
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What on earth have Artem and Emma done to the producers in a past life?!
So unfair.

I am a Maks and Val, Derek and Mark fan BUT all four should be getting duffers and I will be amazed if they do.
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Old 28-08-2016, 15:47
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What on earth have Artem and Emma done to the producers in a past life?!
So unfair.

I am a Maks and Val, Derek and Mark fan BUT all four should be getting duffers and I will be amazed if they do.
I know. Val apparently has Laurie Hernandez. So unfair. Unless he goes back to how he was with Zendaya, rather than his last few seasons.
I'm fairly soured over the pairings that I'm tempted not to waste my energy watching this season. Don't they know it's boring to see the same pros with the same type of partner every single season?
I don't think a single one of Derek, Mark, Val or Maks will ever get a dud. So annoying. At least SCD makes an effort.
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Old 28-08-2016, 20:53
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Originally Posted by Joe14;83769660[B
]I know. Val apparently has Laurie Hernandez[/b]. So unfair. Unless he goes back to how he was with Zendaya, rather than his last few seasons.
I'm fairly soured over the pairings that I'm tempted not to waste my energy watching this season. Don't they know it's boring to see the same pros with the same type of partner every single season?
I don't think a single one of Derek, Mark, Val or Maks will ever get a dud. So annoying. At least SCD makes an effort.
Rant over.
BIB I thought Mark was getting her and do you know who Derek's getting this series? the best duffer he could get would be Abby Lee Miller
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Old 29-08-2016, 09:41
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Jenna Duffer make her earn her 1st stripes
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Old 29-08-2016, 19:42
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Jenna Duffer make her earn her 1st stripes
Agree but it seems like she has Jake T. Austin. I'm willing to give her a chance as a pro. Hopefully her time in the troupe will do her good, like Lindsay.
I'm sure Keo will be back as a pro at some point after a season or two gaining experience in the troupe and will be a much better teacher upon his return.
Emma's due the this year's Charlie/Alfonso/Corbin type. Pretty sad she has another oldie. At least Witney's likely off this season, while she was great with Alfonso and had a great journey with Chris, she's been awful the last two seasons IMO.
What about Cheryl? I know she probably has Ryan Lochte, and she'll be a good fit for him, but what would you say she's due?
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:51
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Agree but we know it wont happen will it?
He apparently has Marilu Henner.
She's 64 and while I'm not sure she'll be a duffer, it will be refreshing to see him with somebody a fair bit older.
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Old 29-08-2016, 21:14
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Agree but it seems like she has Jake T. Austin. I'm willing to give her a chance as a pro. Hopefully her time in the troupe will do her good, like Lindsay.
I'm sure Keo will be back as a pro at some point after a season or two gaining experience in the troupe and will be a much better teacher upon his return.
Emma's due the this year's Charlie/Alfonso/Corbin type. Pretty sad she has another oldie. At least Witney's likely off this season, while she was great with Alfonso and had a great journey with Chris, she's been awful the last two seasons IMO.
What about Cheryl? I know she probably has Ryan Lochte, and she'll be a good fit for him, but what would you say she's due?
well Cheryl's had good partners the last couple few series she was on so id say she's due a Duffer
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