I agree, but I suppose we ought to be grateful it isn't criminal mastermind "Ross" up to his tricks again (though I dare say one of the taxis will become his getaway vehicle in time).

I think cancer is overdone and badly done in soap. Either you die within a week, or you have the magic treatment and all is well for ever and ever. The reality is it is an illness of agonising waiting and time - frequent check-ups, tests,scans ,which go on for months or even years,with long waits for results, an illness of ennui and fear,and at the end of a dark road you are not told you are "cured" but they use that horrible word "remission", which suggests a suspended sentence. In Emmerdale,we have had Diane recently ill with cancer ,I suppose we are to assume Edna died the same way (IRL Ms.Stelfox did),then Gordon. I know we are not supposed to feel sorry for him,but it is a terrible illness whoever it happens to.

I think the thing is that Aaron works better as a conflicted, insecure person. He really does lack the age to take on the pseudo-dad role that David has (Matt is just about old enough to get away with it, and he has a much less uncomplicated and unpleasant minor to look after); Aaron seems more or less subservient to Liv

Afternoon everyone great ep last night Robron and Edna stuff was great. Cant wait to see whats next. Once this Liv thing is over im sure they will he on the next step. And hopefully a belated Barça trip

i dont understand why aaron allows liv to treat robert like crap.

when she immediately was like 'robert killed my dad!' why did aaron just sit there?! i would have said 'liv! that's enough!'

aaron thought it, but she had no right to hijack chas' phone and text ds wise. strike 1.

strike 2 would be her outburst. ok, she is upset, but if it was robert somehow, the police would have said 'he died under suspicious circumstances. we think it was murder...'

she is so damn annoying and i wish she wouldnt be. Emmerdale had a chance to make this fun, but....no

i just dont like her

Yeah I agree, Aaron is still trying to figure out how to take care of himself. I wish Liv wasn't around, but since she is hopefully they can find something better to do with her than stick her in between Aaron and Robert. I don't like the way the young women on the show are written generally.

I keep thinking surely all the money Robron and Liv are possibly going to have must be for a reason. It will maybe explain the break if they do go on holiday or something.

I agree about the heavy storylines.I was not going to watch the David stuff as I didn't know if I could or not, but I have done so far

I think they were trying to show that Aaron was in the wrong last night. Aaron let her get away with it because she was voicing some of the things he was thinking and he actually wanted to know how Gordon died. I didn't mind Liv as the catalyst for having a needed conversation between him Robert.

Yes last night was very heavy. Aaron and Robert were sat on the sofa last night talking about 2 deaths Edna and Gordon.

Yeah it is a bit much.Not sure how the David storyline is going to pan out but I really hope they keep it realistic.I don't think Diane's was at all and it seems she has made an awful quick recovery without any follow up

I think David's storyline is going to get darker, from what I've read about it.

Looks like Danny is working next week as he has tweeted that he can't make the match on Wednesday due to work.

true

ha ha ha... that recent scene of ashley and david talking about their respective woes/ SLs i found sort of... i don't know-- surreal? like-- are you kidding me? lolz

Beside Our Aaron's abuse sl the only one i am interested is Ashley. For the moment the David story doesn't move me at all. I hope It changes, but for now i don't feel anything.

Sorry.

when that leaked script came out, i did ask if aaron started running again what with his words to chas: he's dead but he'd got me running again (or something to that effect)...

and yesterday, it looked like he'd started running again?! eeeeekkk

This is exciting!! cmonnn IM!!

Yeah it seems so-just hope they do it properly though

The same thoughts crossed my my mind

My sister is very self destructive (eating, running, cutting) and when she does something "familiar" to self harming we are on tip of our toes. If I was Chas I would be worried!

yeah... you'd ever be on the look out for clues indicating it's started again

wonder if this is connected to chas PTSD revisit but that would mean no "more relaxed"/ happier times for aaron post abuse SL arrrgghh

When Aaron says "he's still got me running!" I don't think he means literally running just in that he can't face Gordon he's 'running away' from him. I don't think the running last night was the start of self-harm again. He did probably go on a run to clear his head but he probably wasn't pushing himself. Having said that I'm still surprised that Chas didn't mention it or question it at all. She should keep an eye out just incase.

I don't think Gordon would necessarily have taken his will into prison. He's got lawyers doing his trial and preparing his appeal who know his has cancer. They will obviously said 'you need to make a will' and 'we can sort it all out' ('for our usual reasonable fee' - sorry our legal friends here ). Anyway it probably meant that he wasn't on any sort of suicide watch but rather the guard was to protect him from other prisoners who hate sex offenders.

I also don't think the fact that Chas called DS Wise Jason means anything, at least not yet. They may well become an item which might be nice for her and bring tension sls with Cain and the Dingles. But as regards using his Christian name, there will probably be something similar in England where families who have been involved in a traumatic event like having a member murdered or sexually abused, have an officer who befriends them and who they can call on for follow on problems, which I suppose is why he would be involved in a simple alleged shoplifting by Liv and breaking news of the abuser's death.


ETA I should have probably also included AndyM's reply for this to make sense

I wonder if Robert will end up helping not only Aaron if he does start any sort of self harming again, but also strangely helping Chas also with her ptsd issues

Hiya everyone

I really do hope DS Jason Wise will become Chas new love interest. I do like him!!

The other thing I'm wondering is what Liv comes up with at the end of the month to complicate stuff further for the boys? She did thaw to him a bit, but since she heard he offed someone else she may start digging.

I also hope to God that 'Ryan' character doesn't come back to cause trouble. Worst thing ever would be if Rob ended up arrested over the false witness & put into doubt Gordon's conviction which could get quashed postumously. Aaron would be destroyed by that & people speculating that he lied!!

Given the involvement they have had with abuse charities etc, I don't think they would do that, it would be a horrible message to give out.