Emmerdale: Aaron Dingle and Robert Sugden Appreciation Thread (Part 8)

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Lucie_Girard

13-05-2016

Originally Posted by sderr123:
“See this is what I don't get many people were dead set on this storyline redeeming Robert. Ok so they throw this twist- which is a way of acknowledging Robert's past crimes and its too much misery. Make up your minds people.

All will be resolved. I'm positive”

Exactly

andy614

13-05-2016

I don't think it's quite possible that someone 100% gets over and becomes FULLY trusting of someone who did everything Robert did to Aaron. He can get to a point of being at peace with it but it's always there, Just Robert being there for Aaron over the last few months doesn't just wash it away in the way some fans seem to think it should.

Binky321

13-05-2016

If people could stay on the ship after the lodge & scrap yard rant yesterday wasn't half as bad as that seems strange to give up now. I do understand the frustration. At the end of the day Emmerdale is a soap they always crank up the drama especially on Thursdays. We've been promised Robron are for the foreseeable it should come good hopefully starting tonight.

sderr123

13-05-2016

Originally Posted by andy614:
“I don't think it's quite possible that someone 100% gets over and becomes FULLY trusting of someone who did everything Robert did to Aaron. He can get to a point of being at peace with it but it's always there, Just Robert being there for Aaron over the last few months doesn't just wash it away in the way some fans seem to think it should.”

I suppose its more how it comes up. If the trust issues are coming up every time Robert makes a misjudgment in his relationship that becomes a problem. This time its fairly obvious that Robert had nothing to do with Gordon's death.

sugdenrobert

13-05-2016

the problem is the writing

aaron has issues

robert has issues

agreed?

BUT they need to SIT DOWN without freaking liv and freaking TALK.

robert: i feel _________ when you _____

aaron: well do one robert! you had me tied to a radiator! you nearly killed paddy

robert: i cant change any of that, aaron! i am doing my best though. now. right here

aaron: i cant just forget

robert: i am not asking you to. i want you to try and work with me here. i feel like i have to constantly prove how worthy i am to you

......that is the gist of something i would like to see

Randomguy83

13-05-2016

Originally Posted by Binky321:
“If people could stay on the ship after the lodge & scrap yard rant yesterday wasn't half as bad as that seems strange to give up now. I do understand the frustration. At the end of the day Emmerdale is a soap they always crank up the drama especially on Thursdays. We've been promised Robron are for the foreseeable it should come good hopefully starting tonight.”

Oh people will be fine. They're blowing off steam atm because of a few factors and last night was a excuse to rake it all up. The distance between them, the Liv effect and THEN last night. It's basically a build up of frustration.

abrightyz

13-05-2016

Originally Posted by sderr123:
“I suppose its more how it comes up. If the trust issues are coming up every time Robert makes a misjudgment in his relationship that becomes a problem. This time its fairly obvious that Robert had nothing to do with Gordon's death.”

i think it's coz they really haven't discussed it yet... no acknowledgement and apology from robert... just a measly i shouldn't have said them UGGHH

and it's not even what he said... it's the fact he flung unto aaron's face every little detail about aaron's life and personality that aaron's shared with him (offscreen)

aaron at least need a reassurance from him that this won't happen again given the new (historic) trauma in aaron's life that just came to light this year

abrightyz

13-05-2016

Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“Oh people will be fine. They're blowing off steam atm because of a few factors and last night was a excuse to rake it all up. The distance between them, the Liv effect and THEN last night. It's basically a build up of frustration.”

there should be a robron vid of this song "the distance between us"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGq-sCpqJuw

Sez_babe

13-05-2016

I'm a bit late but thanks for the new thread

Windy_City

13-05-2016

If Aaron cant trust Robert (which is fine) then why is he with him. He cant constantly think the worst of Robert and assume things without even speaking to him.

scotsgal21

13-05-2016

You no I am so nervous about this episode tonight.. Is that normal?

I am hoping from all the hints, I've read that it will be a good Robron episode, last night, I LOVED the first scene when Aaron became a Dingle!

Felt so bad for Robert when he was shouting how he was trying, bless him!

Pictures from the game last night.. How darn HOT did Danny look!!

Remember and record Loose Woman on Monday guys.. Danny confirmed on Twitter that he is on it 😄😄😄

Countdown is on for tonight's episode....😕😕

AmyEWright

13-05-2016

Originally Posted by Windy_City:
“If Aaron cant trust Robert (which is fine) then why is he with him. He cant constantly think the worst of Robert and assume things without even speaking to him.”

I believe you can still love someone even if you don't trust them. Admittedly it's not the basis for a good relationship but Aaron loves Robert, that's why he's with him. We've seen in the past how Aaron was conflicted about getting back with Robert.. He loves him wanted to get back with him, then Robert goes and pays Ryan to be a false witness so he decided against getting back with Robert. Maybe he thought this time it would be different.. But Robert lies about the letter, lies about reading the letter and he has Chas and Cain bringing up the past so he has this doubt again. Hopefully it all gets sorted tonight.

mojo5000

13-05-2016

Which fans? I haven't seen anyone say anything close to that.

Windy_City

13-05-2016

Originally Posted by AmyEWright:
“I believe you can still love someone even if you don't trust them. Admittedly it's not the basis for a good relationship but Aaron loves Robert, that's why he's with him. We've seen in the past how Aaron was conflicted about getting back with Robert.. He loves him wanted to get back with him, then Robert goes and pays Ryan to be a false witness so he decided against getting back with Robert. Maybe he thought this time it would be different.. But Robert lies about the letter, lies about reading the letter and he has Chas and Cain bringing up the past so he has this doubt again. Hopefully it all gets sorted tonight.”

I agree that you can love someone and not trust them. I just think order for them to work Aaron needs to trust him a little more. They need some kind of balance between trusting and not trusting and communicate a lot more than than have been.

AmyEWright

13-05-2016

Originally Posted by Windy_City:
“I agree that you can love someone and not trust them. I just think order for them to work Aaron needs to trust him a little more. They need some kind of balance between trusting and not trusting and communicate a lot more than than have been.”

Yeah I agree. I wish the reunion had been postponed until Gordon was gone and Liv was introduced because there has been far too much going on for Robron to sit down and talk about their feelings. To move on from the past they have to talk about it.

abrightyz

13-05-2016

what if instead of resolving a few issues, tonight will just push them further apart? Yikesssss

Marianne_321

13-05-2016

Originally Posted by Andy_Marlowe:
“Good morning Marianne. Have you seen this?:-

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...5#post82388355”

Thanks Andy

Just looked at some of that & Aaron is still my favourite. Don't really get all the extreme hate for him at all. Didn't agree with the comment that Robron fans don't even like him anymore. Since when.....???

Randomguy83

13-05-2016

Chas' PTSD is being revisited so god help the pub with Charity left in charge

. Maybe Aaron will take over

he was dishing out drinks to the Bartons last night.

Marianne_321

13-05-2016

Originally Posted by Andy_Marlowe:
“I think they killed Gordon off too quickly - it's normally weeks or months into a sentence before there is a prison suicide, not day one because barristers would still be talking about appeals etc, and also I am sure before announcing the death to the family they would have ascertained whether at least it was murder or suicide (or natural causes)”

I agree. I'm still not happy that Gordon's been killed off. Hopefully we'll find out more about his cause of death today, although if is to have an autopsy the results would take a few days to come out in real life!!

Marianne_321

13-05-2016

Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“That is awful.

Though I voted in that poll, I think it's best that we don't join the discussion. Nothing will be gained by anyone on either side of the love/hate Aaron argument.”

I literally just voted but don't plan to comment on that thread either. I've been in threads before where we disliked characters but most of our comments were tongue in cheek. I don't mind people having different opinions that me, but a lot of the negative feelings on that thread seem extreme hate to me & strange. I've got to say for example I have hated the Gordon character played really well by Gary, but our negative comments about him here were no where near as bad as those about Aaron on that thread.

ArtyAttack

13-05-2016

Being happy and lovey dovey is wonderful but it makes for less airtime.

Marianne_321

13-05-2016

Originally Posted by Fhionnuisce:
“Thanks Marianne x exactly the right moment

I haven't watched eps yet as was at ESC party last night but sadly my country did not go through anyway I'm gonna watch them back to back now and will surely have a few comments then

I've had a quick look on here already and it certainly seems that loads happened last night and as for people on another thread, well the story obvs moved them so much that they have posted so much about it. That clearly means that they think there were brilliant award winning performances from those involved. What more could any actor ask for ”

Thanks! I thought the ep's yesterday were good even though I wish they hadn't of killed Gordon's off & was disappointed that Aaron thought Robert may of had his dad killed. I get why Aaron doubts Robert because of Katie & Paddy but logically why would he even bother since Gordon just got 18 years.

I liked the fun stuff with the welly etc & Aaron's long scene with Adam. Hope we see more of them together in the future too. I do get why Aaron is upset about Gordon's death as he was still his dad even though he abused him & the fact Gordon never admitted to him what he'd done.

sderr123

13-05-2016

I agree and Robert can't promise never to lie again because everyone lies. Its not whether he lies but what about and his intentions. Aaron has to be willing look at the totality of Robert's actions. For instance the letter its pretty obvious that Robert saw Gordon's letter the same way Adam did. If Robert is talking stuff out with people like Aaron's best mate then Aaron can't jump to the conclusion there is some nefarious intent.

Andy_Marlowe

13-05-2016

Originally Posted by Fhionnuisce:
“Ok have watched last night’s eps and Robron are both in a strange place just now.

From Aaron’s pov he found out his dad sent him a letter, then that his dad is dead, then that Robert has destroyed the letter and now it’s been put in his head that Robert might have played a part in his death. From Robert’s pov he’s been there for the man he loves at probably the lowest moment in the guy’s life. He has put up and hardly complained when, after waiting patiently, Aaron agrees to see if things will work and then immediately relegates him to second after his sister and she insults him at every turn. They each just need to see that.

I really hope that if there is any sort of reconciliation tonight, Aaron first at least lets Robert know that he thinks he had something to do with Gordon’s death, otherwise it won’t make sense. Even a simple ‘Was it you?’ will get it out of the way now. I love Aaron but I think he has to make the first apology. Hopefully they can then clear up lots of stuff, but we have to see it. If they just suddenly appear to have moved on, well very bad writing.

Not worried about Liv, she’ll probably plot and scheme for a while with stuff she finds out, if she thinks Robert is going to come between her brother and her. Whatever turns up, as has been suggested, will all play out but won’t do any lasting damage.

Robert will have his own sls running but if they are both away at the same time I really hope it’s written that they are away together, for at least part of the time. Maybe Robert will come back first to look after Liv . . . ”

What concerns me is that Aaron has badgered Robert to "admit"he is gay, and though he might not have done it in words, by being with Aaron whenever he wants him,he has tacitly admitted it, yet in that revolting drinking-beer-from-a-Wellington boot scene last night Robert was in the cold, he puts Liv before Robert all the time, and Aaron is still far more comfortable with Adam (last night he avoided Robert touching him, yet Adam was allowed to touch Aaron's leg!.

I love Adam and Aaron scenes but, like with Ed and Jackson, Aaron seems far more physically comfortable with Adam. If I were Robert, I really would start wondering if there was any point in hanging around. But that's just my view,

andy614

13-05-2016

Originally Posted by Andy_Marlowe:
“What concerns me is that Aaron has badgered Robert to "admit"he is gay, and though he might not have done it in words, by being with Aaron whenever he wants him,he has tacitly admitted it, yet in that revolting drinking-beer-from-a-Wellington boot scene last night Robert was in the cold, he puts Liv before Robert all the time, and Aaron is still far more comfortable with Adam (last night he avoided Robert touching him, yet Adam was allowed to touch Aaron's leg!.

I love Adam and Aaron scenes but, like with Ed and Jackson, Aaron seems far more physically comfortable with Adam. If I were Robert, I really would start wondering if there was any point in hanging around. But that's just my view, ”

The reason he shrugged Robert off was because he was mad at Robert, not because he wasn't comfortable with it though. The Adam/Aaron scene was a friendly scene.

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