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Gomorrah
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marke09
03-06-2016
Originally Posted by Moleskin:
“No you don't see the police very often.

Another two good episodes this week although there was a massive plot hole in the second one, Pietro would have shot panther guy the same time as The Prince, no way would he have left a witness behind.”

I was expecting Pietro to open the gate push Prince in and leave him to the mercy of the panther
MrSuper
04-06-2016
I read somewhere that this has been called Italy's answer to Breaking Bad.

For anyone who's seen all of series 1 and currently watching series 2 do you agree with that statement?
Moleskin
04-06-2016
No it's not like Breaking Bad, the only thing they have in common is drug-dealing and violence.

It's more like The Sopranos, The Wire and Sons of Anarchy but not exactly the same.
Contact_Light
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by MrSuper:
“I read somewhere that this has been called Italy's answer to Breaking Bad.

For anyone who's seen all of series 1 and currently watching series 2 do you agree with that statement?”

Originally Posted by Moleskin:
“No it's not like Breaking Bad, the only thing they have in common is drug-dealing and violence.

It's more like The Sopranos, The Wire and Sons of Anarchy but not exactly the same.”

I'd say that it was Italy's answer to that particular level of TV drama; the Premier League of recent shows that would include BB, Sopranos and The Wire. It is, by some distance, the best in-house production that any division of Sky has made.

On a show-to-show level, Gomorrah displays clear influences from most of them. Its use of little vignettes as cold opens is very much a Breaking Bad device -think of the recent scene showing the manufacture of the 3D gun without revealing who was making it, or why, until later on in the episode. That could easily have fit into an episode of Breaking Bad (or Better Call Saul, which follows the same pattern).

It's frequent and confident use of wordless scenes and letting the action (or simply the scenery) do the talking instead is also a Breaking Bad thing.

It resembles The Wire in showing the Camorristi operation from the top to the bottom and in offering tantalising glimpses into the wider operation (think the Greek in the Wire and the Honduras and Russian Mob connections in Gomorrah). Personally, I'd like to see Gomorrah explore more of these connections but I can understand the strong focus on the Naples operations. A strong adherence to one particular city is also very much like The Wire's disciplined focus on Baltmore.

Season 2 also shows clear parallels with the character arcs of Avon Barksdale, Stringer Bell and Marlo Stanfield. I'll leave you all to work them out for the sake of not spoiling any non-Wire watchers. (More accurately, those who have yet to watch The Wire. If you're enjoying Gomorrah and haven't seen The Wire yet, you're in for a treat).

Sopranos? How about having pretty much every important character be some shade of scumbag. It's certainly possible to sympathise with several of the characters in either show but I can't think of a single one that I'd leave my kids with.
Belligerence
05-06-2016
Been meaning to watch this properly, caught some of the first season on RAI 3 last year. Was introduced to a few of the cast members when I was in Italy (at that point they were heading off to Germany to film season 2), and they were astounded at how popular the show was internationally.

Originally Posted by dodrade:
“I know I've asked this before but are there no police in Naples? Even corrupt ones?”

You do see them, but Naples is a very 'organised' area. There's a reason why there's only three McDonalds in the area and no Pizza Huts.
Yo Omars Comin
05-06-2016
The ending of episode 7 really shocked me. I expected Prince to die the second it became apparent it was a heavily Prince focused episode, but then I figured right at the end he'd managed to convince Don Pietro that all was fine. Boom!

How many episodes remaining? Just the two?
redandwhiterob
12-06-2016
Another cracking couple of episodes. Got a feeling that it will be Ciro and Genny still standing at the end of last episode
LondonKiwi
13-06-2016
What a brilliant episode that episode 10 was. The tension was almost unbearable.

The stunt driving the wrong way down the autostrada (motorway) was very well done.
dodrade
13-06-2016
Glad to finally see the police show up and even (albeit accidentally) prevent a murder, although it indirectly led to another murder later on.
SteveOwen
13-06-2016
Last week's episodes were so good, the second one, in particular. Nice to see the females getting their chance to shine.

I was thinking to myself while watching that these Neapolitans really have a thing for gaudy gold decor and then Annalisa went and whipped out a golden vibrator. Brilliant. Also loved her playing a game on her phone while Trak was being drowned.

Patrizia is a badass. Enjoyed seeing her run rings around Ciro and his cronies. Don P has met his match there.
Moleskin
14-06-2016
Yes glad Patrizia didn't get killed, but Ciro going soft?

Didn't see that coming.
Chas1989
15-06-2016
Binge watched series 2 since Monday night. Watched the finale earlier.

Absolutely amazing series. Just as good as season 1.

Hope series 3 is on the way.
Moleskin
16-06-2016
Can't believe they killed the girl!

Surely they could have just kidnapped her and used her to get Ciro to give himself up?

At the end I thought Pietro was arranging to meet Genny to kill him but I think he was actually just going to tell him he was marrying again.

Did Genny think he was going to kill him though?
denis1501
16-06-2016
Already renewed for a third and fourth season!
marke09
16-06-2016
Originally Posted by denis1501:
“Already renewed for a third and fourth season!”

Yes Yes Yes be interesting to see the fall out now
testcard
16-06-2016
Absolutely stunning final episode.
redandwhiterob
17-06-2016
Probably the best final episode of a tv series ive ever seen. As superb as the first two series have been I'm not sure where it can go from here tbh

Maybe peripheral characters like Malamore and Patrica will have a more prominent role
Yo Omars Comin
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by Moleskin:
“Can't believe they killed the girl!

Surely they could have just kidnapped her and used her to get Ciro to give himself up?

At the end I thought Pietro was arranging to meet Genny to kill him but I think he was actually just going to tell him he was marrying again.

Did Genny think he was going to kill him though?”

Exactly what I thought regarding Ciro's daughter.

In my opinion, Pietro was going to tell Genny he's free to pursue his interests in Rome., and of being with Patrizia. Genny probably thought Pietro was going to kill him because he was so insistent on a face to face meeting.

Superb ending to a superb series, can't wait for more. When the BBC recently announced two more series of Peaky Blinders will be made I was annoyed, because we all know Tommy Shelby will not be seriously harmed for at least two more series, Tommy Shelby is Peaky Blinders. But reading that Gomorrah will be getting at least two more series fills me with excitement because you never know who's going to die. It could absolutely anybody.
Fat Buddha
17-06-2016
just finished watching the season 2 finale. I'm not prone to using anacronyms, but OMFG ! Easily the best thing I've seen on TV this year. Mrs. FB is gutted Don Pietro bit the dust.

I interpreted things slightly differently however. I think Don Pietro knew he was not going to get away with the brutal murder of Ciro's daughter, so he arrived at Mrs. S's tomb knowing he wasn't walking out of there alive (I think the hearse was a big clue personally)

Roll on season 3
Yo Omars Comin
18-06-2016
Originally Posted by Fat Buddha:
“just finished watching the season 2 finale. I'm not prone to using anacronyms, but OMFG ! Easily the best thing I've seen on TV this year. Mrs. FB is gutted Don Pietro bit the dust.

I interpreted things slightly differently however. I think Don Pietro knew he was not going to get away with the brutal murder of Ciro's daughter, so he arrived at Mrs. S's tomb knowing he wasn't walking out of there alive (I think the hearse was a big clue personally)

Roll on season 3”

I don't know about that. I think Don't Pietro was far too arrogant to think anybody could kill him.

I really hope series 3 opens with Patrizia as the head of the Savastano family.
junipaire
18-06-2016
The actor who plays Genny, I was saying badly cast when I first saw him in the early episodes on series one, now I've had to eat my words, hes awesome and really plays a mean gangster. Really glad to see it get more series as its one of the best things on in ages. very gripping stuff.
redandwhiterob
18-06-2016
As much as I'm gutted about Don Pietro getting killed in reality they had to write him out the series someone. It would have been bordering on the ridiculous if he was back in series three running the show like he was early in series one. Given his escape he was no doubt one of the wanted men in the country and it would have been farcical if that was someone how brushed over
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