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... and what's wrong with Newcastle???
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Kellie may be a lovely person away from food, but the sitting on counter tops, dirty nails (she used to drive army trucks - maybe she's still missing them & the dirty nails are her tribute to the good old days
) and the even poorer man's Eliza Doolittle performance didn't do anything for me. (Actually, change Eliza Doolittle for Emma from Big Brother.) I can't think of anything Kellie said or did in the series that was remotely interesting. Repetitive yes, crawling yes, but interesting no. The "Yes, Chef" became so automatic that she even said it to Angus Deayton on the night the vote was between her & Gary! Her dishes received no honestly positive comments from the diners, not even from her own chef who encouraged to believe what he said instead of what the diners did. She may be a good cleaner-upper & there's no doubt her voice will be heard above all the hustle & bustle in a busy restaurant, but she's clearly not a good enough cook for a £250k investment to be made in her. The money is exactly that, an investment that will allow the programme makers to report back on how the restaurant's doing in the months ahead, especially in the run-up to the next series. Part of the restaurant's success/failure will be due to the level of trade brought to it by the name associated with it. Knowing someone from Hell's Kitchen owns it won't bring in the diners, but the chance of someone from the show actually cooking the meal could well do so. They're not going to award the prize to someone who didn't show any star quality in the cooking stakes - can you imagine what would happen if the restaurant was short-staffed? "Sorry mate, everything's off except the chips, but I can do you a coupla lagers". Knowing one end of a sprout from the other does not a signature dish make. No, no, no. The money isn't for a cafe or a mobile food van (not that there's anything wrong with either of those), it's for a restaurant, where people can presumably expect to eat food cooked by clean hands with more than a bit of imagination, not by a woman who can barely talk without dribbling. It was reported the other day that she said if she won, she'd call her restaurant "Kell's Kitchen" - umm, that name must have taken oooh 2 seconds to think up? No, surely not that much. The name shows as much originality as she did. I don't know whether Terry was the most deserving out of all the contestants (my choice would have been between him and Aaron) , but I'm 100% sure Kellie wasn't. |
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I'm with you on this robinsbatman. I never really cared to watch this series only at random ( hate Rhodes and Novelii can't speak proper english so hardly worth watching either) but was curious enough to watch it last night to see who'll (un)deservedly win the £250k.
Between Kellie and Terry I have to say that Terry deserved the money the reason being: Terry - "I intend to get michelin star for my restaurant". Kellie - "I'll serve pubgrub". But like robinsbatman I think it should have been between Aaron & Terry. |
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I felt sorry for Kellie she was told she would win by JC and she did get a little to cocky, she took it well but it was obvious she thought she would win, she worked hard and rarely panicked but unfortunately her cooking wasn't up to scratch thats why Terry won, he could cook even if he did not have her running the kitchen skills at the end of the day it was about cooking
hope JC gives her a job and teaches her to cook more than pub grub
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Why is everyone saying her cooking wasn't up to scratch? When they changed kitchens the initially doubtful GR tried the sausage she made and pronounced it very good indeed. When the opposition gives praise, you know you really are doing something right.
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That's part of the problem right there. The chefs may have liked an individual item that she cooked, but the diners (albeit on a freebie) didn't rate her cooking so she didn't get high enough praise to get enough votes from the viewing public at the final hurdle. That, coupled with her poor hygiene standards, meant that she was only going to win if the person against her was worse than her, rather than if she was better at cooking than them.
There's no doubt she did well to stay until the last two, but at some point people have to look at the business end of things - when one person has high aspirations & has proved himself both willing & capable of improving his standards, & the other is aiming for pub grub & hasn't proved herself even able to do that to a high standard, the one who aims higher has a greater chance of the money going their way. Pub food is fine, but there are plenty of those establishments. Terry is far more likely to create something original with that money (I can do without seeing the Rockerfeller Prawn dish again, though ), & I bet he'll aim to provide food at a reasonable price too. I suspect she'd either eat it or waste it. ![]() She's a harmless enough girl in herself, but those nails could kill, & if she can have those nails & can sit on a worktop in clothes she's been working in for hours who knows what other standards she'd let slip? If she can't show a recognised improvement in her cooking with over 2 weeks of very professional help available, & has hands that look like she's been digging for truffles, then she doesn't need £250k. She needs £20 for a pair of rubber gloves, a bar of soap, a nail brush & a Delia Smith or Jamie Oliver cookbook - they're easy to read (I don't mean that in a nasty way) & will help her to learn to do restaurant-level food at a slower pace.
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Why is everyone saying her cooking wasn't up to scratch? When they changed kitchens the initially doubtful GR tried the sausage she made and pronounced it very good indeed. When the opposition gives praise, you know you really are doing something right.
still think she is a lovely girl though
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To the people who said that she just wanted to make pub grub, she did say that but she also said that she would want to serve an a la carte menu at night.
I think it's a shame that she lost. You could tell how much she wanted it. Terry was ok too though and I don't begrudge him the win. |
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She needs £20 for a pair of rubber gloves, a bar of soap, a nail brush & a Delia Smith or Jamie Oliver cookbook - they're easy to read (I don't mean that in a nasty way) & will help her to learn to do restaurant-level food at a slower pace.
![]() I'm not entirely sure I agree with you- but you're making me laugh too much to disagree
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You obviously did not see the clips of the raw fish she cooked as her special
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To the people who said that she just wanted to make pub grub, she did say that but she also said that she would want to serve an a la carte menu at night.
). As for an a la carte menu at night, can I presume that would be once the chef she employed came on shift?
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That entire post along with the earlier one you made about the brussel sprout has had me laughing to myself whenever I thought of Kellie faced with a pile of sprouts.
I'm not entirely sure I agree with you- but you're making me laugh too much to disagree ![]() I've only just noticed my pun in the first one - "cooking stakes".
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Thanks, LadyKnight. The best way to win an argument is to make someone laugh into submission - self-respect preserved on both sides
I've only just noticed my pun in the first one - "cooking stakes". ![]() Well when you write a post and can fillet with humour, and as long as you can get somebody to meat your opinion with a smile of their face, then nobody will have a beef with you. Mind you, they would be stewpid if they did.
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LOL. nice pun.
Well when you write a post and can fillet with humour, and as long as you can get somebody to meat your opinion with a smile of their face, then nobody will have a beef with you. Mind you, they would be stewpid if they did. ![]()
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Terry - "I intend to get michelin star for my restaurant".
Kellie - "I'll serve pubgrub".
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Agreed, it's all about running a business and that's a different skills set. Kellie could have upped her game by investing some more training; nothing's going to turn Terry into a manager, he doesn't have the people skills or personality. Nice bloke but too passive. He showed that when he lost control of his team. I had my doubts about Kellie at times (especially when she said she admired Jade Goodie
) but overall I thought she had by far the more potential. Also, her team got scores of 9. They wouldn't have achieved this if the diners had slated her meals. It would have pulled the overall score down.
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It's funny you should mention that. Because I was browsing one of the other reality TV forums, and somebody linked to a news article about another reality show, where it was suspected that something funny might have been going on.
The implication was that employees from the show might have been having a bit of a flutter. I say bit of a flutter, but what I really mean is BIG money. I think it might have been the Big Brother forum, can't remember offhand. There is potential big money to be made from the bookies, whether the rumours of insider gambling are true or not. ![]() Not strictly true, most bookies only take minimal bets on reality TV shows, and very few were betting on Hells Kitchen at all so I cant see it being a betting coup. I had avoid looking at the betting through the series, and was expecting Kellie to be a 1/3 shot on the final day, but was surprised to see 4/6 Terry and 11/10 Kellie. Luckily I didnt wade in as I was planning too! |
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Kellie's team got high scores because of the work of the others (maybe the scores would have been even higher if she'd done better), but she consistently came near the bottom when it came to assessments of what she cooked. JC wouldn't even let her see some of the comments.
People buy into the food & atmosphere of a restaurant - the personality of the chef isn't usually the issue (because most people won't meet him/her), but their cooking skills are. I agree that Terry is maybe too laid back, but employing a team he can trust will go a long way to resolving that - he could then be the chef without worrying so much about what the others are doing. Kellie is a different kettle of fish from Terry - she can't cook to a sufficiently high standard, & is therefore a long way from being in a position to tell others how to cook a dish properly or correct things when they go wrong. If she did that in her own restaurant & cooking staff left, she'd be stuffed (getting a bit carried away with the puns now ). £250k is an awful lot of money to pay for someone to learn to cook, or even worse for them to find out that they can't. She can be as funny as she likes, but if she can't cook well & safely in a restaurant, people won't go back there. The point of the prize is not to have the winner be the maitre d' or the off-site manager of the restaurant, but be the actual chef in their restaurant - if they wanted to offer a prize of managing a restaurant to someone, then the show would have been geared around managing an establishment. Kellie might be good enough to be the chef in her own restaurant in a year's time, but not now, when the prize is actually on offer.
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I don't see what Terry did at all. He owns a restaurant already, yet served Gary Instant Mash. He's bitched and back-stabbed about his team. He's got their backs up. He's only ever promoted his own Rockafeller dish. I don't get it. Let's hope his restaurant is in Newcastle.
I absolutely agree with everything you said. Terry was a backstabber that didn't like anyone else getting any praise. Why no one could see what he was like is beyond me. So he should be good at cooking, he cooks for a living for goodness sake. To be honest, there was no one person that I like enough to vote for throughout the show but I would have rather have seen Kelly win than Terry, nasty person he is. I also thought he was a lot older than he is, can't believe he is only 46, seems like he is in his late 50's. |
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IMHO Terry tried to get the viewer's sympathy by going on (and on ....and on......) about "how hard it was coming from Oop Nerth".....(could almost hear him saying "we live in cardboard box int'road and eat gravel for us teas")
and yet....I am thinking Newcastle....might have "depressed" areas after the closure of the coal mines etc but having been to Bigg market and seen the money spent in bars and clubs at the weekend ![]() and the new bridge ![]() and Newcastle Utd - not exactly a poor man's footie team ![]() the 2nd biggest ground in the country ![]() and Terry was going on about how "downtrodden" it was up North....... ![]() This link from our local Paper says Terry is from Darras Hall Link to news paper Now check out THIS LINK (type in Ponteland for the area) to see how poor and hard it is to live where Terry lives. Most of his neigbours are Newcastles biggest business men and people like Alan Shearer. Daz |
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Oo Darras Hall is nice. It's all tree lined drives and enormo houses..
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I thought Kellie did really well, what with idiots like gary and stein in her kitchen, she did really well only to blow her top just the once! Well done that girl!
I was annoyed with Sam and Aaron on the final night, they really messed Terry around, Sam had clearly been on the town the night before and shouldn't have volunteered anyway if she'd felt that ill. No excuses, both Aaron and Sam were pretty poor that night. Gary wasn't much better support for Kellie either. She was being overly kind. Good luck to them both anyway, hope Kellie does well with whatever she does and I wish Terry the best for his 'Rockefeller'
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Good grief, if the comments made by some FMs in this thread are typical of those who live in London and the surrounding areas, no wonder the poor guy felt like he has been in a foreign country for the last couple of weeks.
(a) Newcastle is not in Yorkshire. The two areas have their own distinct accents/dialects. Incidentally, as with those who live in London and consider anywhere north of Watford to be ‘Up North’, some residents of Newcastle similarly believe that anywhere south of Darlington (such as Leeds) is ‘Down South’. (b) Believe it or not, Geordies speak English, just like the majority of other residents of England, albeit with their own local accents. Why can’t those in London learn to understand the North East’s regional accents, as Geordies are required to understand London accents, including the cockney dialect? (c) Newcastle is certainly not a depressed city these days. The last significant coal mining ended about 20 years ago, and the city has been rejuvenated since the closure around the same time of much of the major heavy industrial works in the area (shipbuilding, steelmaking, etc). Whilst Newcastle still has some pockets of deprived areas, as do all major cities in this country, Newcastle now has major modern office complexes housing financial/insurance companies that can easily compete with similar property/businesses in London. In addition, Newcastle also has £1mil+ modern penthouse apartments situated at the luxury marina and overlooking the Tyne to house those highly paid executives that are employed in the new, thriving industries within the city. Newcastle and Gateshead shopping facilities are considered to be one of the biggest and best outside of London. (d) Despite the best efforts of local MPs, the North East is still largely ignored by the rest of parliament deciding policies and funding affecting England and Wales. I’ve even met some people who have never ventured north of Watford who believe Newcastle is in Scotland ![]() (e) I guess it would be not too far wrong to suggest that there are as many of those who live in Newcastle who are just as pleased with the distance between Newcastle and London, as there are residents of London and the surrounding area that hold a similar view. /rant over We are a modern, buzzing, cosmopolitan city, Grey Street in Newcastle was voted the best street in Britain and some people say the world, we have the Baltic, Laign Art Gallery, Sage, Europes biggest shopping centre, Northumberland Street, Beamish, Newcastle United with one of the best stadiums in the world, Millenium Bridge, Europes best night life, and a train system (Metro) that aint a crap hole like the tube! Most importantly we are friendly and welcoming, unlike London, where it is cold, busy and unnatractive, yes you are the capital but if Buckingham palace and parliment wasn't there what would you have?! The North East region as a whole is currently the place to be.
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) and the even poorer man's Eliza Doolittle performance didn't do anything for me. (Actually, change Eliza Doolittle for Emma from Big Brother.) I can't think of anything Kellie said or did in the series that was remotely interesting. Repetitive yes, crawling yes, but interesting no. The "Yes, Chef" became so automatic that she even said it to Angus Deayton on the night the vote was between her & Gary!
). As for an a la carte menu at night, can I presume that would be once the chef she employed came on shift?
