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Uncharted 4 SPOILER Discussion
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samcains90
17-05-2016
Looks to me as though the DLC chapter will be Sam after he gets seperated from Drake, Elena & Sully and makes his way to Avery's ship.
Hope not, but Nate wonders how he made it to the ship and we don't see how the ship explodes. I'd rather it not be since I'm not interested in playing as Sam or seeing that stuff. But hey, I think Sam is meant to be a lot more well liked than I do.
Woodbine
17-05-2016
I was thinking about the ending and although I liked it, I think it would have been more dramatic and shocking if Nate died saving his Brother Sam. I mean if this really is the last game then it would have been a more emotional impact ending and something you'd think about a long time after you've completed the game.
ShotDownInFlame
17-05-2016
Originally Posted by Woodbine:
“I was thinking about the ending and although I liked it, I think it would have been more dramatic and shocking if Nate died saving his Brother Sam. I mean if this really is the last game then it would have been a more emotional impact ending and something you'd think about a long time after you've completed the game.”

I was watching a discussion between the Kinda Funny guys about the ending to Uncharted and they brought up a good point which is basically that Uncharted has always been a sort of upbeat type of game and had Nate died it wouldn't have really have *felt* like Uncharted.
Dandem
17-05-2016
Originally Posted by ShotDownInFlame:
“I was watching a discussion between the Kinda Funny guys about the ending to Uncharted and they brought up a good point which is basically that Uncharted has always been a sort of upbeat type of game and had Nate died it wouldn't have really have *felt* like Uncharted.”

I have to agree with this.

Uncharted has never been "that" kind of series. It's always had that air of light-hearted, over the top dramatics to it, and a sombre ending swathed in tragedy just wouldn't have been a fitting conclusion at all imo.
Woodbine
17-05-2016
Originally Posted by ShotDownInFlame:
“I was watching a discussion between the Kinda Funny guys about the ending to Uncharted and they brought up a good point which is basically that Uncharted has always been a sort of upbeat type of game and had Nate died it wouldn't have really have *felt* like Uncharted.”

That is a good point and don't get me wrong, I liked the happy ending and it fitted with uncharted, but it really would have felt like a 'Thief's End'. Either way would have been good imo.
Yuffie
17-05-2016
Originally Posted by Woodbine:
“That is a good point and don't get me wrong, I liked the happy ending and it fitted with uncharted, but it really would have felt like a 'Thief's End'. Either way would have been good imo.”

Surely the "thief's end" referred to Avery.
Woodbine
17-05-2016
Originally Posted by Yuffie:
“Surely the "thief's end" referred to Avery.”

Could be, but I always thought it's because it was Nate's last job.
Yuffie
17-05-2016
Originally Posted by Woodbine:
“Could be, but I always thought it's because it was Nate's last job.”

As I got on through the story I was sure the title was about Avery and how he was branded a thief for stealing everyone's gold and then his demise.

While at the same time been Nate's last job and maybe throwing a red herring at us about his death.
Woodbine
17-05-2016
Originally Posted by Yuffie:
“As I got on through the story I was sure the title was about Avery and how he was branded a thief for stealing everyone's gold and then his demise.

While at the same time been Nate's last job and maybe throwing a red herring at us about his death.”

Could mean both I guess, both thief's coming to an end.
ShotDownInFlame
17-05-2016
Originally Posted by Yuffie:
“As I got on through the story I was sure the title was about Avery and how he was branded a thief for stealing everyone's gold and then his demise.

While at the same time been Nate's last job and maybe throwing a red herring at us about his death.”

Yeah this was how I interpreted it, I'd read a "spoiler" by complete accident on some facebook comment section about how Nate dies at the end of Uncharted 4 and at the time I was so pissed off that I'd potentially ruined one of the best stories of modern gaming for myself, but as I actually played through the game, the further along I got, the more convinced I was that Nate wasn't actually going to die and "A Thief's End" was referring to either Sam (because I thought he'd be an easy target to kill off) or Avery.
claire2281
17-05-2016
Originally Posted by Woodbine:
“I was thinking about the ending and although I liked it, I think it would have been more dramatic and shocking if Nate died saving his Brother Sam. I mean if this really is the last game then it would have been a more emotional impact ending and something you'd think about a long time after you've completed the game.”

I think it would've been completely wrong narratively to kill Nate so I'm glad they didn't go there. The story was clearly about him finding a level of peace with himself and a way of living that allowed him to retire from treasure seeking. It led on really nicely from 3 and the exploration of just how dangerously obsessive he could get. Here he went too far the other way and by the end of 4 he'd found a happy compromise.

It was obviously also partly about him finding the family he'd never had considering how young he was when his mum died. The way they gave his character closure was perfect imo.
samcains90
17-05-2016
Originally Posted by Woodbine:
“I was thinking about the ending and although I liked it, I think it would have been more dramatic and shocking if Nate died saving his Brother Sam. I mean if this really is the last game then it would have been a more emotional impact ending and something you'd think about a long time after you've completed the game.”

I have to admit that I was worried that was going to happen as he and Elena said their goodbyes for the last time. I'm glad it didn't happen though, I think it would have felt the wrong way to end the game. It was bad enough when Elena pretended to be dead and I almost burst into tears.
I would've hated for Nate to sacrifice himself for Sam, who has proven not to care much for Nate's life or his relationships.
ags_rule
17-05-2016
I'd say the DLC will be filling in the blanks in terms of what Sam did during the parts of the game when we didn't see him EG. When he went to one of the different towers, when he gets captured by Raith, when he splits from the group to go after the treasure. Seems to be the logical route as ND won't need to expensively design brand new maps for it.
Jenny1986
17-05-2016
Ok I just finished it, the credits are rolling. The feels!!! I absolutely loved every minute of it, I didn't think it dragged at all, I just soaked it all up. I didn't think I could love Elena any more, but she's just awesome on so many levels. Such a fitting end to a great series, I loved that last shot of the photo's in the journal, got me all emotional it did. I'm kind of sad it's over now, and oddly tempted to reply all 4, even though I just played the HD collection a few weeks ago.

I think I would love an Elena spin off above all things, her life as an investigative journalist or something, just more Elena! Put her in a 90's point and click adventure I don't care.

It took 19 hours in total, and I only got 41 collectables, I think I spent too much time looking at the scenery and taking pictures.
ShotDownInFlame
17-05-2016
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“I'd say the DLC will be filling in the blanks in terms of what Sam did during the parts of the game when we didn't see him EG. When he went to one of the different towers, when he gets captured by Raith, when he splits from the group to go after the treasure. Seems to be the logical route as ND won't need to expensively design brand new maps for it.”

Nah I think Naughty Dog will go that extra mile tbh. I mean they've said the DLC for this game will be much like what "Left Behind" was to "The Last of Us", and that DLC had brand new areas, a brand new protagonist and it's own enclosed storyline, so I still think they'll likely go with Chloe and Cutter, simply because we know what happens with Sam and it doesn't really need to be explained.
samcains90
17-05-2016
Originally Posted by Jenny1986:
“Ok I just finished it, the credits are rolling. The feels!!! I absolutely loved every minute of it, I didn't think it dragged at all, I just soaked it all up. I didn't think I could love Elena any more, but she's just awesome on so many levels. Such a fitting end to a great series, I loved that last shot of the photo's in the journal, got me all emotional it did. I'm kind of sad it's over now, and oddly tempted to reply all 4, even though I just played the HD collection a few weeks ago.

I think I would love an Elena spin off above all things, her life as an investigative journalist or something, just more Elena! Put her in a 90's point and click adventure I don't care.

It took 19 hours in total, and I only got 41 collectables, I think I spent too much time looking at the scenery and taking pictures.”

I agree with you about Elena, she's the character who really brought me into the series and i would love her to get her own dlc chapter or game.
Dandem
17-05-2016
I was never the biggest Elena fan personally, but she really came into her own here. She became quite a bit more awesomer for me than in previous adventures.

I've always been a Sully kind of guy personally
Yuffie
17-05-2016
Yeah, Elena was awesome, even more so because she wasn't in your face, just badass when you needed her to be.

And she's hot. You did well Nate, you did well.
samcains90
18-05-2016
Originally Posted by Dandem:
“I was never the biggest Elena fan personally, but she really came into her own here. She became quite a bit more awesomer for me than in previous adventures.

I've always been a Sully kind of guy personally ”

Well there's a character for everyone. I wasn't a Sully fan until this game either, so there were improvements all round I think
Matt D
20-05-2016
Done. Loved it

The only bit that *really* frustrated me was in Chapter 20, when you're running away from the second armoured truck.

The boss fight in Chapter 22 irritated me a bit, but was no way anywhere near as annoying as the one for Uncharted 2.

Loved the epilogue with Cassie.

Originally Posted by ShotDownInFlame:
“One of the directors over at Naughty Dog said that even though they aren't included in the Uncharted 4 base game, Chloe and Cutter's stories aren't over. So that leads me to believe we'll get a short story based on them as the DLC.”

I don't care about Cutter, but I did miss not having Chloe in this
OMTT
20-05-2016
The boss fight done my head in as I have MS and don't have the fast reactions for QTE events

Sam/Sully's adventure going on his business deal may make for some good DLC
Yuffie
20-05-2016
I would also like to see Nate and Elena go diving to reclaim the stash. I assume they got it as they have a house on the beach, but it's not conclusive. Maybe their business is doing well.
Ted Cunterblast
20-05-2016
Finished it last night.

Still think that after the initial wonderment about the graphics, level design, character movement/interaction etc the later levels don't seem quite as impressive...an awful lot of walking and exploring, interrupted by frantic, though increasingly difficult firefights.

If the low-key denoument and prologue seems a bit disappointing for some, I don't really have an issue with it...some of the best movies ever made have the worst endings...it never ruins the movie for me.

It succeeds on so many levels that the occasional gripes are not enough to detract.

Probably a game I will go back to and play again...and that's the true test of a good game for me.
BleedRed
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by Ted Cunterblast:
“Finished it last night.

Still think that after the initial wonderment about the graphics, level design, character movement/interaction etc the later levels don't seem quite as impressive...an awful lot of walking and exploring, interrupted by frantic, though increasingly difficult firefights.

If the low-key denoument and prologue seems a bit disappointing for some, I don't really have an issue with it...some of the best movies ever made have the worst endings...it never ruins the movie for me.

It succeeds on so many levels that the occasional gripes are not enough to detract.

Probably a game I will go back to and play again...and that's the true test of a good game for me.”

I didn't really enjoy the gunfights when rescuing Sam and afterwards. Found it hard and annoying. Whereas, in uncharted 2 I enjoyed them more.
Jenny1986
21-05-2016
Originally Posted by OMTT:
“The boss fight done my head in as I have MS and don't have the fast reactions for QTE events

Sam/Sully's adventure going on his business deal may make for some good DLC”

I think there is an option to just hold triangle, you can select it in the menu. I saw this article yesterday.

http://kotaku.com/how-one-disabled-p...-mo-1777633667

It's really considerate of them to add the features when they didn't have to, I saw people on Gaf mentioning the option to just hold triangle, because they either didn't like or were bad at QTE's. I only realised why the option is there when I read the article.
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