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Old 17-05-2016, 17:29
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Russia didn't get the juries on board and Australia didn't get the televoting on board enough, Ukraine as much as I didn't like the song did both, they won, move on people! Let's hope they put on a show.
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Old 17-05-2016, 17:33
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Russia didn't get the juries on board and Australia didn't get the televoting on board enough, Ukraine as much as I didn't like the song did both, they won, move on people! Let's hope they put on a show.
Does anyone else think that if Dami had given a better performance on the night that she would have won? I came online to say how screechy she sounded in comparison to her semi final performance, and saw others saying exactly the same. She wanted it a little bit too much, I feel.

Edit: Also, do we know if Jamala won the televote over Dami in the semi too, then?
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Old 17-05-2016, 17:37
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Edit: Also, do we know if Jamala won the televote over Dami in the semi too, then?
Ukraine won the televoting in semi 2 by 10 points.
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Old 17-05-2016, 17:42
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Dunno if they will remix Jamala's song but hey they remixed Carl Espen's Silent storm so anything is possible.
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Old 17-05-2016, 17:44
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That interviewer on French TV was quite funny. It was interesting how the Azerbaijan singer, Ukrainian singer and some of the Russian delegation (but not the singer) were cold towards what are seen as their 'adversaries'.

However the French missed a rather major thing? Regional flags were in the end allowed for performers competing in the contest, that's what we were told anyway. Even some other flags of neutrals not competing could be allowed I think. It depended more on the context, eg the gay flag not being waved during the Russian performance.
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Old 17-05-2016, 18:16
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It's one point if view. You could also argue that our music industry can get very good exposure without having to risk itself to probably national indignity by bothering with Eurovision...
The exact same thing could be said for the very successful Swedish music industry. The difference is: SVT make it worth your while to represent Sweden. The BBC make it a 'poisoned chalice' as Will Young called it when asked if he'd do it. I doubt Mans or Loreen saw singing for SVT/Sweden as anything poisoned.
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Old 17-05-2016, 18:26
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The exact same thing could be said for the very successful Swedish music industry. The difference is: SVT make it worth your while to represent Sweden. The BBC make it a 'poisoned chalice' as Will Young called it when asked if he'd do it. I doubt Mans or Loreen saw singing for SVT/Sweden as anything poisoned.
Well, no. Of course not. Most participants are signed to Warner Music Sweden and the songs from Melodifestivalen start to dominate the charts as soon as they are performed all the way til ESC. Each show is also watched by over 3 million viewers. Joe and Jake won't even make the top 40 here and the NF didn't even scrape one million, I think?

The difference is: Melodifestivalen makes stars, or makes their careers bigger. Whilst the most our selection will do is pick out a talented random from the public or end the career of an already known artist. They can't really be compared.
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Old 17-05-2016, 18:27
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The BIG 5 would hardly ever qualify into the final - all five countries actually made an effort this year and only France and Italy finished respectably. Without the Big 5, you'd lose around 45 million viewers. It's all very well these countries moaning about the Big 5, but without the Big 5 there wouldn't have been a Song Contest created all those years ago. The BBC especially, was one of the creators and founders of the contest.


I personally believe that it should be only Eastern European countries that enter the semi finals because each year more and more of them appear and want to take part, yet the Western European area has remained a constant mainstay over 60 years yet get unfairly thrust into semi-finals that are dominated by the East and often miss out.
More and more Eastern countries don't appear at all. We reached saturation point for both East and West years ago.... there are no more countries left that could enter. It's plain ethnic chauvinism to say Eastern countries must qualify but Western ones needn't. Especially when Eastern countries make more effort and send better songs than the likes of the UK. Bulgaria was better than anything we could ever dream of the BBC sending.

The plain truth is this: if the UK had to qualify like Ireland do we would have not made the final in 2015, 2012, 2010, 2008, 2007, 2005, 2003...need I go on? We have absolutely zero reason to feel superior over Eastern countries. That we've been in it since the 50s is irrelevant. We certainly bring little to the party these days that anyone else wants and that's all that counts. With our lamentable record buying our way to the final is our only way of qualifying most years. And that's nothing to feel superior about
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Old 17-05-2016, 18:54
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Good lord, I cannot believe people signed a petition to change the winner. It makes me angry because it only serves to make the Eurovision fandom & viewership look like a load of petulant kids. No thanks!

I can definitely see the point of signing a petition over the BBC recipes, though
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Old 17-05-2016, 18:55
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The Eurovision Life Cycle
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Old 17-05-2016, 19:20
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lol that is so us, thanks
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Old 17-05-2016, 19:29
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Reggie and bollie? Next year?
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Old 17-05-2016, 19:52
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uughhh nooooooo
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Old 17-05-2016, 20:11
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If you want a laugh... or possibly nightmares. Vocal only performances have been uploaded.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcQ...8tjVj0Q/videos

Samra's is particularly frightening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPBiw7WOoRY
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Old 17-05-2016, 20:14
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If you want a laugh... or possibly nightmares. Vocal only performances have been uploaded.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcQ...8tjVj0Q/videos

Samra's is particularly frightening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPBiw7WOoRY
I stumbled across her x factor version of The show much go on. Excruciating. Freddie M would be rolling around in his Urn.
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Old 17-05-2016, 20:14
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Always makes me chuckle when Nina goes slightly Asian when she sings 'I keep this hope of mine'

Or whatever she says.
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Old 17-05-2016, 20:30
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Nicky Byrne my ears
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Old 17-05-2016, 20:32
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmiqYVi6nRI This is hilarious , she is feeling the groove alright,. peeing myself. off to cook dinner. we need the hungry lezzies one.
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Old 17-05-2016, 20:33
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If you want a laugh... or possibly nightmares. Vocal only performances have been uploaded.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcQ...8tjVj0Q/videos

Samra's is particularly frightening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPBiw7WOoRY
Oh they are fabulous!

Poli I like to think that it's her voice and the music in tandem that makes it so special, not the component parts
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Old 17-05-2016, 20:34
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmiqYVi6nRI This is hilarious , she is feeling the groove alright,. peeing myself. off to cook dinner. we need the hungry lezzies one.
Loving the shoulder pads.
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Old 17-05-2016, 20:42
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Oh they are fabulous!

Poli I like to think that it's her voice and the music in tandem that makes it so special, not the component parts
She was so out of breath bless her. It's a busy routine.

Nothing will ever beat Alyona's asthma attack in 2013 though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMP...=youtu.be&t=25
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Old 17-05-2016, 20:55
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We have an official video. <33333333

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWX-Mw4dbCs
Listening to it again and I forgot about the "high stilettos on fleek" line, which carbon dates it in the same way Dami's FaceTime reference did and probably would have stopped it winning (jk we all know her voice would have done that)
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Old 17-05-2016, 21:00
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I'm still not a huge fan either. They should've gone with the Celine Dion soundalikey...
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Old 17-05-2016, 21:03
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Nicky Byrne my ears
There are shitshows and then there's that! It wants condemning as a method of torture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQKa0rKSeP0
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Old 17-05-2016, 21:05
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We have an official video. <33333333

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWX-Mw4dbCs
...she can't lip sync
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