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Old 19-05-2016, 17:04
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Because of course you wouldn't have been moaning at all if Ukraine had been beaten by Russia or Australia...
Or Sweden, you would have loved that Rosetta
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Old 19-05-2016, 17:12
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As Amir would say: Mon Dieu!

Mind you he's worth one too!

And Sergey does have a rather lovely, round bottom.
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Old 19-05-2016, 17:51
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Australia are allowed back next year on the proviso that they send The Veronicas

Imagine if we sent Mutya Keisha Siobhan next year. They're not exactly unheard of, their career is going down the toilet so it could be a good thing for them, they have a reasonable gay following AND they're capable of carrying a choooooon.
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Old 19-05-2016, 18:01
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Australia are allowed back next year on the proviso that they send The Veronicas

Imagine if we sent Mutya Keisha Siobhan next year. They're not exactly unheard of, their career is going down the toilet so it could be a good thing for them, they have a reasonable gay following AND they're capable of carrying a choooooon.
I'd like Mutya as a soloist to be honest. Her debut album was just awesome. Better off solo.

E.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9cVQqD_5tg
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Old 19-05-2016, 18:27
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The Eurovision Twitter has been tweeting out a Q&A with David Walliams by mistake. So random!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci1OFIZXEAQu4wv.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci1PC2JW0AAyTp1.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci1PNsbXEAEp-fw.jpg
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Old 19-05-2016, 18:33
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Probably use the same PR company
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Old 19-05-2016, 18:43
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I'm getting seriously pissed off with this woman now. Watch from 3 mins onwards...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMhLyEZ1_YE

'You wrote one and half years ago when annexed Crimea. It's about that? Why not call it 2014 instead of 1944'

'Sure, sure, but it wouldn't have been accepted into Eurovision because it would be seen as political'

'It's our secret knowledge'

Can't remember the exact words but.

Edit: If this is true, I mean I don't know the language, she says that the EBU told her to be careful in not as many words.
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Old 19-05-2016, 18:46
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She. Won. Get. Over. It.

to clarify: this isn't aimed at you Foxi, but the Russian fanboys/bizarre conservative political analysts who probably never even watched the show but still think Jamala is the devil.
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Old 19-05-2016, 18:50
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She. Won. Get. Over. It.
I'm not disputing that. She was my winner too. I'm just saying, the fact she even admits here that it was politically motivated and that she had discussed this with the EBU and they still allowed it just stinks. I've lost huge respect for her now as a person.
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Old 19-05-2016, 18:54
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The song was written about 1944, but she acknowledges that the same sentiment could be attributed to what happened two years ago, but that wasn't her main intent, and that's probably what the EBU advised her on. It's not the same as Georgia 2009, where they said "screw Putin", were asked to change lyrics and REFUSED.

I think this year has resulted in a need for transparency in the rules about political lyrics because it's all very ambiguous at the minute and open to the EBU's discretion, but as far as I can tell Jamala operated within the rules and in good faith, and her character shouldn't be attacked.
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Old 19-05-2016, 18:59
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The song was written about 1944, but she acknowledges that the same sentiment could be attributed to what happened two years ago, but that wasn't her main intent, and that's probably what the EBU advised her on. It's not the same as Georgia 2009, where they said "screw Putin", were asked to change lyrics and REFUSED.
Yes, but if you're going to pretend that this is your 'secret knowledge' it's probably best not to reveal everything on national television? The fact is, we all knew it was about this, but because she hadn't said anything then it was deemed acceptable. But this interview took place before Eurovision and after her meeting with the EBU, it's just very very shady. I would've respected her a lot more for sticking to her guns but she's kind of handing this to the Russians now who are obviously doing this to cause trouble.

I don't know, I guess what I'm trying to say is, had this interview been uploaded before the contest then surely her song would've been disqualified? It's a real shame it's all become such a mess.

Edit: And, I aren't attacking her, more her judgement? I don't know, it's just obviously been done in a way to make sure they weren't disqualified. She knew she was in the wrong yet could go through this 'lie' if you like. Just my opinion, anyway. She's played the competition as a game.

Edit 2: These loopholes really do need to be closed for future contests so it can't happen again.
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Old 19-05-2016, 18:59
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Oh well, at least people are talking about her, which is what she wanted.
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Old 19-05-2016, 19:02
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I think the best thing to do is wait another week, by which time nobody will care anymore
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Old 19-05-2016, 19:11
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Does this mean we'll be getting another EBU statement tomorrow?
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Old 19-05-2016, 19:11
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Does this mean we'll be getting another EBU statement tomorrow?
They've never been so busy.
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Old 19-05-2016, 19:20
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Just saw this on the official website....

OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE EBU


Look, we're all tired and overworked. You guys are interrupting our annual leave.

Eurovision is over, go home!
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Old 19-05-2016, 19:42
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Just saw this on the official website....
Genius!
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Old 19-05-2016, 19:58
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Yes, but if you're going to pretend that this is your 'secret knowledge' it's probably best not to reveal everything on national television? The fact is, we all knew it was about this, but because she hadn't said anything then it was deemed acceptable. But this interview took place before Eurovision and after her meeting with the EBU, it's just very very shady. I would've respected her a lot more for sticking to her guns but she's kind of handing this to the Russians now who are obviously doing this to cause trouble.
But we knew that the Russians had accused 1944 of being a political song and the EBU had to deal with that. Obviously they had a meeting with Jamala about it. If they instructed her on what she could and could not say about the message of the song, that's fine by me. Most of the contestants make something up anyway.

In the end, I don't think Ukraine's win was particularly political. They're a consistently high-ranking country at Eurovision and it was only a matter of time until they won again.
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Old 19-05-2016, 20:05
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https://twitter.com/AnVanGael/status/733024486459609089

THIS is undeniably cute <3
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Old 19-05-2016, 20:46
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Hooray! Gogglebox has been extended by 3 eps and WILL feature Eurovision tomorrow! Got a feeling they won't be huge fans of Jamala!
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Old 19-05-2016, 20:48
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They're all philistines!
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Old 19-05-2016, 21:01
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N'aww, Frans is so talented.
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Old 19-05-2016, 22:57
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Just saw this on the official website....


I bet that's what they actually want to write!
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Old 19-05-2016, 22:59
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Hooray! Gogglebox has been extended by 3 eps and WILL feature Eurovision tomorrow! Got a feeling they won't be huge fans of Jamala!
I have a feeling they might show some of the new voting - tension potential but also comedy potential if the Gogglebox-ers find it confusing.
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Old 19-05-2016, 23:32
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I have a feeling they might show some of the new voting - tension potential but also comedy potential if the Gogglebox-ers find it confusing.
They're not exactly Mensa material are they?
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