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Old 15-05-2016, 09:25
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Continuation of: Neighbours: The One Soap No-One Should Be Missing... (P2)

Oh Mrs D, you have provoked a flurry of posts! Six in all! I'm sure you didn't mean to!
It must be like saying "Candyman" in the mirror six times. Mention SS and up he pops
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Old 15-05-2016, 09:57
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Still doesn't change the fact that she broke the law and her brother and parents trust.

I actually think that had she persevered in talking to her parents about why she wanted it (for Josh) they would have relented and given permission once they were sure she understood that it isn't a quick fix and will be there forever - or cost a fortune to remove. But she wasn't prepared to wait for even a few days and sorry, i think that is really immature.

She already does regret it to a certain extent as she told Terese that she thought it would make her feel better about losing Josh and it hasn't. Plus, it caused problems in the family, more stress for Terese and nearly caused Ned to leave.

Life is short, true. Too short to cause people around you unnecessary grief by lying to them. And sometimes, even though life is short, you still have to wait for things - you can't everything you want the moment you want it. And again, in my opinion, acceptance of that is a major part of growing up.

I do have a sense of humour by the say and know it is only a soap that doesn't matter in the great (or even little) scheme of things but I don't see any point in discussing a soap on a forum if you don't examine it in something approaching reality.


I think you've expressed how most of us feel. Very few people take this seriously to the point of behaving as if characters are real, but one of life's little pleasures is having a moan - and at the moment Neighbours scripts have holes in them you could drive a truck through. Yes, it isn't real, but you have to have an element of credibility in a good script.
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Old 15-05-2016, 09:58
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It must be like saying "Candyman" in the mirror six times. Mention SS and up he pops
We have all been warned!
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Old 15-05-2016, 13:18
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Meanwhile on Planet "Typer"/"Piyler" (?)

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...heJailBaitWait
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Old 15-05-2016, 17:17
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Brilliant!
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Old 15-05-2016, 18:09
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Do we know yet what the dark storyline is for Aaron?
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Old 15-05-2016, 18:12
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It must be like saying "Candyman" in the mirror six times. Mention SS and up he pops
Not that scary am I? I tend to save Neighbours for my days off and watch them in 1 go. Hence the flurry of posts
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Old 15-05-2016, 18:15
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I am proud to say I coined the phrase "Typer". Is that a spoiler? If it is I don't want to read it.
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Old 15-05-2016, 18:16
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Do we know yet what the dark storyline is for Aaron?

Wasn't it about him assaulting Tom Quill?

On that subject how would you feel about Tom coming back and being Aaron's love interest? I heard Nate is leaving. Aaron and Tom made a good couple.
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Old 15-05-2016, 18:37
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Still doesn't change the fact that she broke the law and her brother and parents trust.

I actually think that had she persevered in talking to her parents about why she wanted it (for Josh) they would have relented and given permission once they were sure she understood that it isn't a quick fix and will be there forever - or cost a fortune to remove. But she wasn't prepared to wait for even a few days and sorry, i think that is really immature.

She already does regret it to a certain extent as she told Terese that she thought it would make her feel better about losing Josh and it hasn't. Plus, it caused problems in the family, more stress for Terese and nearly caused Ned to leave.

Life is short, true. Too short to cause people around you unnecessary grief by lying to them. And sometimes, even though life is short, you still have to wait for things - you can't everything you want the moment you want it. And again, in my opinion, acceptance of that is a major part of growing up.

I do have a sense of humour by the say and know it is only a soap that doesn't matter in the great (or even little) scheme of things but I don't see any point in discussing a soap on a forum if you don't examine it in something approaching reality.
I don't think Piper is regretting the tattoo. It is a small tattoo in a discreet place. It's not the sort of tattoo people regret. Judging by Piper's style there will be more tattoos in the future. She is a retro chick with an edgy style.

It's a shame it didn't cause Ned to leave because he seems to only be there to cause trouble. Therese and Brad are more modern than you are giving them credit for. They won't be even worrying about the tattoo in a few days.
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Old 15-05-2016, 18:41
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Lol. I guess someone has to over the top route for Piper.
Well we all have our favourites. Mine is Piper and Tom Quill. The 2 best characters on the show. Who's yours? Sonya? I'm sorry yours doesn't get as much airtime as Piper
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Old 15-05-2016, 20:50
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Well we all have our favourites. Mine is Piper and Tom Quill. The 2 best characters on the show. Who's yours? Sonya? I'm sorry yours doesn't get as much airtime as Piper
Have you ever seen me type anything or go on about Sonya as you do Piper. Not sure i have favs on neighbours tbh. If i did it would be Paul and i liked Imogen and Terese.
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Old 15-05-2016, 21:03
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I don't think Piper is regretting the tattoo. It is a small tattoo in a discreet place. It's not the sort of tattoo people regret. Judging by Piper's style there will be more tattoos in the future. She is a retro chick with an edgy style.

It's a shame it didn't cause Ned to leave because he seems to only be there to cause trouble. Therese and Brad are more modern than you are giving them credit for. They won't be even worrying about the tattoo in a few days.
It doesn't matter if they aren't worrying about it inn a few days - the fact is Brad said no at that point and she went against him - the person that is legally responsible for her well being.

If she was so sure they would be okay after a few days, why didn't she wait a few days to get it done with permission?

People sometimes (sometimes, not always) regret tattoos no matter how discreet they are. That tattoo will het bigger if and when she has kids and gets stretch marks.

But that is all irrelevant, whether she regrets it or not in years to come. It is the immaturity she (once again) displayed in going against the explicitly stated answer of her Guardian that is the problem. I do,'t knoow how you can say that brad and Terese would be okay with it when it was shown on screen that they weren't. And whether it is 'fair' or not, what they say goes until she turns 18 as she is STILL LEGALLY A CHILD.

Why is is that whenever Piper does something wrong (like posting damaging footage of Tyler online) you justify it by saying that she is 'emotional' and 'reacted because she is hurt' whereas you don't give Ned any leeway at all even though he is clearly emotionally reacting to over 20 years worth of perceived hurt and rejection by Brad?
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Old 15-05-2016, 21:07
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I don't really have favourites either. As I've said many times, i view characters on their individual actions so sometimes I will like a character, sometimes i won't.

I guess there are characters i understand more, ie Iu understand and can sympathise with why they behave the way they do but that isn't always the same thing as 'liking' them.

Having watched him for 31 years (mostly), especially the first year with Terri trying to kill him, I understand Paul and what makes him tick but that doesn't mean I like his actions - most of the time I don't but he remains interesting to me I guess.
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Old 15-05-2016, 22:08
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Have you ever seen me type anything or go on about Sonya as you do Piper. Not sure i have favs on neighbours tbh. If i did it would be Paul and i liked Imogen and Terese.
Imogen was annoying as hell. She was holier than thou. Paul? That man is scandalous. He has no shame and is only interested in protecting his own interests.
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Old 15-05-2016, 22:20
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It doesn't matter if they aren't worrying about it inn a few days - the fact is Brad said no at that point and she went against him - the person that is legally responsible for her well being.

If she was so sure they would be okay after a few days, why didn't she wait a few days to get it done with permission?

People sometimes (sometimes, not always) regret tattoos no matter how discreet they are. That tattoo will het bigger if and when she has kids and gets stretch marks.

But that is all irrelevant, whether she regrets it or not in years to come. It is the immaturity she (once again) displayed in going against the explicitly stated answer of her Guardian that is the problem. I do,'t knoow how you can say that brad and Terese would be okay with it when it was shown on screen that they weren't. And whether it is 'fair' or not, what they say goes until she turns 18 as she is STILL LEGALLY A CHILD.

Why is is that whenever Piper does something wrong (like posting damaging footage of Tyler online) you justify it by saying that she is 'emotional' and 'reacted because she is hurt' whereas you don't give Ned any leeway at all even though he is clearly emotionally reacting to over 20 years worth of perceived hurt and rejection by Brad?
She is impulsive but that's not necessarily immaturity. Adults can be impulsive too. It's human to be. We all want things now and spend money on things we don't need but want. If she regrets that tattoo it might prevent her getting a worse one in future. I don't see the big deal in it. Brad himself is hardly a conformist image wise. People don't necessarily go off the rails because they are give freedom, it can have the opposite effect.

Ned is showing a much darker side. He threw Josh's plants across the graveyard. He is a known ex gang member. He affiliates with Steph's biker mate. He is looking to seduce Lauren. This is more twisted than what Piper has done.

Kitkat how would you feel about Tom Quill being made a permanent character?
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Old 15-05-2016, 22:30
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OH FFS can we stop the squabbling about a Tattoo everyone will forget about in a month or so and it will be never mentioned again
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Old 15-05-2016, 23:07
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She is impulsive but that's not necessarily immaturity. Adults can be impulsive too. It's human to be. We all want things now and spend money on things we don't need but want. If she regrets that tattoo it might prevent her getting a worse one in future. I don't see the big deal in it. Brad himself is hardly a conformist image wise. People don't necessarily go off the rails because they are give freedom, it can have the opposite effect.

Ned is showing a much darker side. He threw Josh's plants across the graveyard. He is a known ex gang member. He affiliates with Steph's biker mate. He is looking to seduce Lauren. This is more twisted than what Piper has done.

Kitkat how would you feel about Tom Quill being made a permanent character?
Being legally an adult doesn't stop somebody being immature. I have plenty of friends in their 40s who sometimes behave in a manner I would consider to be immature. Lordy, I sometimes do! It still warrants criticism.

Brad's dress sense has nothing to do with it. He is an adult so legally entitled to make his own decisions on such matters. Piper isn't yet - that's the difference.

Ned throwing the flowers at the grave was impulsive and an emotional response to feeling hurt, rejected and betrayed. Things you've used as excuses for Piper in the past. I don't like what he did there but you could argue the consequences were far less severe than Piper posting a video of Tyler saying the Garage he works for is crap online were.

Ned was a member of a gang when he was about Pipers age. An age you say it is okay to make mistakes at. What if Piper is still being blamed and punished for staring the School Fire in 5 years time? Something she did when she was a kid and trying to impress a new friend to fit in? Which is what Ned appears to have been doing when he was 16 and got involved with a gang? Would you think that was fair on her?

Ned did not move to Ramsay street with the intention of going after Lauren. He didn't even want to see Brad, or i assume his new girlfriend. He is clearly drawn to Lauren because they have a shared interest in Art and she is virtually the only person who is making time for him and seeing things from his perspective. As you are so fond of saying re Piper, you can't help who you are drawn to and Ned is finding himself drawn to Lauren. It wasn't planned.

I don't have feelings about Tom one way or another really. He was reasonably interesting, be good to see some more background on how he feels shut out by Julie following his father's death. And i'd like to see him press charges aganst Ben, Xanthe and Piper for taking/spending/benefittting from his money. That's about it.
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Old 15-05-2016, 23:09
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OH FFS can we stop the squabbling about a Tattoo everyone will forget about in a month or so and it will be never mentioned again
Why should we? It's not the tattoo, it's what it represents in terms of how it demonstrates a characters thought processes and morality which is interesting.
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Old 15-05-2016, 23:18
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Why should we? It's not the tattoo, it's what it represents in terms of how it demonstrates a characters thought processes and morality which is interesting.
because you are just going around in circles and just 2 people posting lengthy posts in an endless argument kills a thread
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Old 15-05-2016, 23:28
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because you are just going around in circles and just 2 people posting lengthy posts in an endless argument kills a thread
Fair enough and I did actually come in to edit my post as on reflection it was probably quite curt.

But, there have actually only been half a dozen posts between SS and myself on this, we haven't been the only people posting in the thread on this subject or any other even just today and there is nothing stopping people posting about something else to take the debate in a different direction.

Yes, it does go round in circles and they always die down after a while but I'm afraid i'm not going to not state my views, especially if i am expressing a different aspect of it, in case some people find it boring. As said, there is nothing to stop people posting about something else should they want to - i at least won't turn round and say "how dare you talk about something else that happened in the episode" in fact i'd probably answer it.

On the subject of different characters, who do we think that guy is that was asking for directions to Ramsay Street? Sonya's Dad is my best guess. I wasn't watching closely when she arrived, i know she has a sister but have we been told about parents?
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Old 15-05-2016, 23:30
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because you are just going around in circles and just 2 people posting lengthy posts in an endless argument kills a thread
I agree with you in that i feel it's getting a wee bit tedious and tiresome..

But it is a discussion forum so *shrugs*
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Old 15-05-2016, 23:33
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HAhaha!
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Old 15-05-2016, 23:34
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Fair enough and I did actually come in to edit my post as on reflection it was probably quite curt.

But, there have actually only been half a dozen posts between SS and myself on this, we haven't been the only people posting in the thread on this subject or any other even just today and there is nothing stopping people posting about something else to take the debate in a different direction.

Yes, it does go round in circles and they always die down after a while but I'm afraid i'm not going to not state my views, especially if i am expressing a different aspect of it, in case some people find it boring. As said, there is nothing to stop people posting about something else should they want to - i at least won't turn round and say "how dare you talk about something else that happened in the episode" in fact i'd probably answer it.

On the subject of different characters, who do we think that guy is that was asking for directions to Ramsay Street? Sonya's Dad is my best guess. I wasn't watching closely when she arrived, i know she has a sister but have we been told about parents?
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Old 15-05-2016, 23:35
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because you are just going around in circles and just 2 people posting lengthy posts in an endless argument kills a thread
We have been given a part 3!! Somehow I don't think this thread will be killed for quite some time. The programme will be full of continuity errors and characters we like/dislike/would like to throw off a cliff and SS will continue his rose tinted specs posts about the deep, retro, amazing Piper . Everyone else will wonder if they are watching the same programme as him and kitkat will give him the odd lecture. It's what we do here and it works out just fine,
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