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Old 13-10-2016, 19:10
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Aaron has got his gaydar the wrong way round. But why? Why did he ever think that Leo was gay in the first place?
Probably because Aaron saw Leo kept looking over at him in the bar.
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Old 13-10-2016, 19:12
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The Police in Erinsbourgh really are terrible. Jacka was known to be a threat to the Willis family yet not only did he appear in their house a couple of times but they also went looking for him and still couldnt find him. Somehow he appeared in the Hospital without notice. At least we saw a different policeman today and it isnt just Brennan running the whole unit.

The taller Tanaka has a smirk that is simply begging to be wiped off his face.
Was about to make a comment about it and then i saw this. Dont know what is more irritating his posture or the grin. He thinks he is the best looking bloke in the world when in reality he is anything but.
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Old 13-10-2016, 19:38
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It looks like Jacka's on a mission to get revenge. Karl couldn't win. If Karl hadn't given her medical treatment Jacka would have blamed him for not doing anything. I hope Jack doesn't let Paige down by going back to being a priest and then staying well away from the area. So David's gay then. I would never have guessed that, and I'm being serious. I loved the look of realisation on Aaron's face when David stroked his hand as he was examining him.
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Old 13-10-2016, 19:41
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Probably because Aaron saw Leo kept looking over at him in the bar.
I half thought that that was just Leo admiring Aaron's negotiating skills when Aaron was talking to Paul.
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Old 13-10-2016, 19:52
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Hi all. First post. Yay. I wanted to post to say that I have actually enjoyed this storyline with Paige and Jack (think I might be the only one)! Yes what he has done is completely wrong but I have enjoyed seeing him deal with the inner conflict. Just because he is a priest doesn't mean he doesn't have feelings and he justgot caught up in the moment. Personally I think he will choose the church but I reckon Paige will be pregnant from their encounter and lead to a whole new dilemma for them. As for Paige looking so glam think we are all a little jealous ... know I was!
Welcome.

I'm glad you've been enjoying it (the primary function of a Soap after all) and can certainly understand the inner conflict which is why I've had more sympathy for Jack than Paige in this. He is a man as well as a priest and giving up the closeness and support (emotional, not just sexual) that a lover or spouse brings, as well as children is a huge sacrifice. Not one to be undertaken lightly and not one that won't be doubted or maybe regretted, especially when somebody comes along that provokes those feelings.

But, doesn't alter the fact that he did take vows and that should have been the end of it. Even if he decided that he couldn't keep them, he should have left the Priesthood before he succombed, not after. Certain 'jobs' require that you not get caught up in the moment and mind should always triumph over heart - and loins.

Would i like to be as beautiful as Olympia Valance? Of course i would. Who wouldn't. But that isn't the reason I comment on things like her hair and make up after the explosion. No issue with Paige taking care of herself re keeping her hair nice most of the time. It was just the fictional circumstances at that exact point which made the character seem really shallow. She kept saying that she couldn't spend time with her family, including her GrandDad's funeral because she had to sit by 'John's' hospital bed in case he woke up. But she could find time away from him to get her hair cut? Didn't make sense within the context of her stated mindset at that time.

Re Jack, if he has any kind of true religious morality, he can't stay a Priest now. I referenced the thorn Birds earlier where the main character did stay a Priest after sleeping with a woman (and getting her pregnant though he didn't know that for decades) but he wasn't actually meant to be that 'good' a man - he was motivated to achieve as much 'career' wise as he could - in other words, become a Bishop or even the Pope. So different to Jack.
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Old 13-10-2016, 19:54
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I'm sure that Jacka's comment was about the poison in the tattoo ink.

He still believes that Ned is planning on doing his own tattoo with it so will die. Even if that doesn't happen, if somebody he works on dies, Ned will be held responsible and probably go to Prison.

So, more grief for the Willis'.
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Old 13-10-2016, 20:38
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I half thought that that was just Leo admiring Aaron's negotiating skills when Aaron was talking to Paul.
Think Leo was doing, but Aaron misread it wrong.
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Old 13-10-2016, 21:16
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Noticed a few reports online that Olympia Valance might be on I'm a Celeb this year.
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Old 13-10-2016, 21:20
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Hi all. First post. Yay. I wanted to post to say that I have actually enjoyed this storyline with Paige and Jack (think I might be the only one)! Yes what he has done is completely wrong but I have enjoyed seeing him deal with the inner conflict. Just because he is a priest doesn't mean he doesn't have feelings and he justgot caught up in the moment. Personally I think he will choose the church but I reckon Paige will be pregnant from their encounter and lead to a whole new dilemma for them. As for Paige looking so glam think we are all a little jealous ... know I was!
Great - I take it you're a Frozen fan too... but I digress...

Don't worry, you're not the only Paige and Jack fan - I've loved this storyline even with all its ups and downs and going around in circles...

Firstly because it's brought religion to the forefront of a soap and for once not in an overtly negative way

Secondly it's given Olympia a chance to shine as I think she's a really good actress

Thirdly it hasn't taken the easy route and just made Jack easily give up the priesthood at the first hurdle - for all the complaints about the storyline going round and round in circles, it definitely beats the alternative of having had a quick two or three episode resolution... The struggle would be real for a man like Jack especially in this day and age so I'm glad they've shown the internal battles he would genuinely face

And finally I have to admit I'm a closet romantic and there's something about 'forbidden love' that tantalises me...

Yes we all knew it was inevitable that they would get together but I've enjoyed the ride and I couldn't care less if no-one else has, different strokes, different folks
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Old 13-10-2016, 21:50
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I did notice that Piper's hair was all messed and fluffy when she was in hospital...and Paige's? I guess she had a shower and blow dry and makeup done. Which was odd.
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Old 13-10-2016, 22:23
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Has he actually confirmed that he'll be giving up the Priesthood? Obviously it was implied and he should leave having broken his vows, but he could still pull a 'Thorn Birds' and declare it a one off abberation.

I completely agree that Jack is just as bad as Paige re humping into bed with her and he has certainly crossed into hanging around her too much over the past couple of weeks, but I still think she's been the worst one overall, simply because she did keep after him, both when he was amnesiac and was saying he couldn't start anything whilst he didn't know who he was and after he remembered he was a Priest and told her that although he loved her, he couldn't be with her. I'll never forget her declaring 'war' on God and dressing out specifically to try and tempt him.

I agree about what could have been an interesting story about how the relationship progressed and how Paige would feel about ut. Liklihood is that even if he did leave the Priesthood, he wouldn't leave the Faith completely so sex before marriage, contraception would all be issues they'd have to deal with. He's probably want to keep helping people in a pastoral capacity - would Paige be happy with that kind of drain on his spare time? I doubt it somehow

But no, straight into the sack.
This..

Whilst he may leave the priesthood, i agree he will more or less keep his faith. Will Paige be able to deal with him still having religion in his life. He will still be doing charitable works and maybe go to mass on Sundays.
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Old 13-10-2016, 22:54
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This..

Whilst he may leave the priesthood, i agree he will more or less keep his faith. Will Paige be able to deal with him still having religion in his life. He will still be doing charitable works and maybe go to mass on Sundays.
Well Paige certainly knows how much faith means to Jack, and she will most likely be accepting of this. She knows deep down that she cant take him away from his faith. What Jack does next will be interesting. But Paige seems to grasp the fact that faith is hugely important.

On a completely unrelated subject it is good to see Karl having an actual storyline rather than just being a comedy character that he has largely been lately.
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Old 13-10-2016, 23:06
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Jack will choose to stay with the church again and Paige will announce she's pregnant
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Old 13-10-2016, 23:35
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I think that Paige might claim to understand his faith, and would probably cope with him attending mass once a week. But I don't think she would be okay taking a back seat to him doing vocational work for the Church and Parish whiiich I imagine he would want to do. People that actively volunteer for the Church, organising fêtes, counselling, being members of bands or on fund raising committees, even doing the flowers or playing the organ or singing in the Church Choir at funerals, wedding Christenings on top of 'standard' masses - it takes up a lot of time.

I can't imagine Paige taking Jack not being able to go to a film or have dinner with her on a specific night because he has said he'll do something for the Church well.
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Old 13-10-2016, 23:41
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Jack will choose to stay with the church again and Paige will announce she's pregnant
Jack shouldn"t be allowed to stay with the Church - at least in the capacity of a Priest.

He's broken his vow of celibacy. So he can't be a Priest, whether he wants to or not.

It is one thing deciding to become a Priest having had sex and then renouncing it. It is quite another studying to become a Priest (1hich takes a long time), actually being one and having sex.
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Old 13-10-2016, 23:49
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More St Steph nonsense tomorrow. Why doesn't she just nail herself to a cross and be done with it?

I notice Karl's up on a charge whilst at the same time they're letting a guy who doesn't even work there have free rein.
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Old 14-10-2016, 01:18
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Jack shouldn"t be allowed to stay with the Church - at least in the capacity of a Priest.

He's broken his vow of celibacy. So he can't be a Priest, whether he wants to or not.

It is one thing deciding to become a Priest having had sex and then renouncing it. It is quite another studying to become a Priest (1hich takes a long time), actually being one and having sex.
I guess he could ass the Bishop for a pardon if he really felt it was a mistake and the priesthood is where he should be. Who knows maybe one day the church may allow priests to marry, etc.
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Old 14-10-2016, 01:31
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More St Steph nonsense tomorrow. Why doesn't she just nail herself to a cross and be done with it?

I notice Karl's up on a charge whilst at the same time they're letting a guy who doesn't even work there have free rein.
Love this lol 😂
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Old 14-10-2016, 02:15
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Tyler said something about Paige being covered in bruises, well they weren't there when she took her top and trousers off, Jack must be really rough in bed
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Old 14-10-2016, 09:00
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More St Steph nonsense tomorrow. Why doesn't she just nail herself to a cross and be done with it?

I notice Karl's up on a charge whilst at the same time they're letting a guy who doesn't even work there have free rein.
Exactly, getting a bit fed up with seeing short arse, greasy haired, so called Dr David always floating about the hospital. His sleezy brother Leo is no better, not fussed on these new characters, I hope they won't be staying.
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Old 14-10-2016, 09:13
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Exactly, getting a bit fed up with seeing short arse, greasy haired, so called Dr David always floating about the hospital. His sleezy brother Leo is no better, not fussed on these new characters, I hope they won't be staying.
I don't understand the status of David - what is he doing in the hospital? They are a pointless pair really.
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Old 14-10-2016, 09:38
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Exactly, getting a bit fed up with seeing short arse, greasy haired, so called Dr David always floating about the hospital.
Do you have a prejudice against short people? I find him quite cute.
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Old 14-10-2016, 09:39
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I don't understand the status of David - what is he doing in the hospital?
Visiting his great-gran apparently. Though he doesn't need to be there all the time to do that!
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Old 14-10-2016, 10:59
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Jack shouldn"t be allowed to stay with the Church - at least in the capacity of a Priest.

He's broken his vow of celibacy. So he can't be a Priest, whether he wants to or not.

It is one thing deciding to become a Priest having had sex and then renouncing it. It is quite another studying to become a Priest (1hich takes a long time), actually being one and having sex.
I am no expert on the Catholic church but I think Jack could remain a priest if he confessed, (which he most likely will do) and took steps to prevent a recurrence. As I said I.m not an expert on canon law, but if he truly wishes to remain in the church I believe he could. He will need to sort his head out though!

Yes, he has broken his vow but the next step will need a lot of talking things out with more senior priests - it's not just a case of giving him his cards!
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Old 14-10-2016, 12:04
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Tyler said something about Paige being covered in bruises, well they weren't there when she took her top and trousers off, Jack must be really rough in bed
That made me laugh way more than it should have.

Not seen yesterday's episode yet, but from the comments here might be worth it.

Would they have Paige being pregnant? Soap characters have a habit of becoming a bit duller (for want of a better word) once they bring children into the equation. Or would Neighbours have her deciding to have a termination, leading to further conflict with Jack?
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