I wasn't intentionally stereotyping as such. It's just to me Tyler feels like a female character the way he is written, and he acts a good ten years younger than he actually is. He's just a really strange character and doesn't work at all, IMO.

She did indeed have a choice - rubbish to say she 'had' to keep the Macbook! And as for being angry with Ben when she found out, I would have been more impressed with her if she'd insisted on handing it back.

They all deserve for their parents to find out - Piper is in it as much as the others and it's no excuse to say she 'had' to do her vlog! She's very selfish and self-obsessed - see her reason for suspecting Brodie of blowing up the hotel!

Maybe Drab and Therese (and Susan and Karl, not to mention Sheila) SHOULD start asking some questions!

She didn't hate keeping it - it was grab grab! She should do the decent thing and sell it to help her mates replace the money. And Aaron should stop shielding her for no good reason.

It will be interesting to see how Ben and his infinite supply of morals deal with this situation. As a character he says one thing and then does another. As has been said in the last few pages i also feel that he is a character that is lacking in direction. Ben, Tyler, Aaron and Shelia seem to just meander along without really doing much. This was also the issue with Nate and his departure is that the character could have been so much more further developed and he was a really interesting character. It is a real shame that he has gone.

I don't see why they should end their friendship because other people who aren't involved think it's inappropriate. They are friends and clearly have a bond. It's a shame that people are twisting it into something it isn't. Who do you suggest Piper should turn her atttention to then? What would please you? Mavournee was asked in Q&A who she is most suited to out of Ben, Chas and Tyler and she said Tyler. It is looking like they will become a couple in the future. That would be a couple who started out as friends...seems more substantial than most couples on the show.

You have worked in PR and Advertising so you should know how much star quality Mavournee has. I don't get the hate she gets on here and why people want her character to be miserable.

Paige just wants to find love. She still hasn't moved on properly from Mark. John Doe is giving her mixed singles and no matter who he used to be he should feel lucky Paige is giving him the time of day. I don't see him having any other options.

Haha you for real? Xanthe is annoying as hell. Ben is too quiet to be annoying.

Piper has had the most airtime since the explosion because she is the best character and actress on the show. Her acting blew everyone else away after the explosion.

Xanthe is a flavour of the month cliche ridden character with limited long term value. She started off as your typical runaway brat and now has turned into something totally the opposite in a matter of weeks. At least Piper is consistent.

Piper didn't need a thousand quids worth of MacBook Air. What was wrong with a few hundred for a normal laptop? I'm sure she can produce her amazing vlogs on a big standard laptop especially when someone else was paying. Her old one wasn't a Mac so it wasn't even like for like and she could have claimed on the house insurance for accidental damage if it had been an expensive one.

Mavournee isn't mega talented with star appeal or whatever. Lily (who plays Xanthe) is coming into her own now and is much better. Ben and Piper are adequate, Xanthe is improving no end and Angus is truly dreadful.

Better than Brad really? Citizen of the year winner. In shape siwmming coach. Teacher.

Meanwhile Terese is drinking herself to death and Lauren is leading Brad's son on by giving him the eye.

I think Brad can do better...

I think it was the same middle of nowhere where Doug and Susan got stranded in the heatwave after popping out to get a pint of milk.

What? Tyler is one of the best characters on the show. He is only getting hate on here lately as he is now hanging out with every DS member's favourite punch bag Piper Willis (surprised she hasn't been blamed for the explosion yet).

We are living in a modern age where women have their own careers and are self sufficient. They seek different qualities in men than what the cavemen used to offer. So Tyler's qualities would actually make him very in demand in today's world. Bad boys? I think Ned and Jackass have that covered at the moment with their "biker gang".

That's what I like about Tyler: he's not your typical male Aussie bloke. He's not mature in a responsible way, but is a decent listener and an all round decent guy. He's laid back, easy going, fun and doesn't take anything seriously. He is the anti Mark.

You are right that Tyler is a strange character. When he first came into the show I thought he had potential - good looking guy and semi-ok actor. But they seem to have dumbed him down and have him almost slow or simple. Playing with remote control cars, hanging about with school kids, no pals his own age, no girlfriend.

In real life a guy like that would be constantly chased by women and would not have to be sleazing round a 16 year old. I don't like the whole Piper thing. There is no way a guy like that would be after her. She is desperately plain and no way would pull a hunk like that.

With regard to other stories, I wish they would hurry up with who blew up the hotel. I have no idea who it will turn out to be.

John Doe must be some long lost relative of Paige. Maybe a twin brother that Lauren doesn't know she had. He is a dreadful actor so it would be good if he blew up the hotel and went to prison, never to be seen again.

Sonya's dad will turn out to have some secret or other. It won't be as straightforward as it seems. I must say that Sonya is a cracking actress, very believable and natural. One of the best ever on Neighbours.

Unfortunately romance is well and truly dead on DS and Piper should be lumbered with Ben even though they are purely friends and have zero romantic chemistry. Yes let's all watch another generic romance pan out and fizzle into nothing. Hell, while we're at it let's get Fungus together with Piper if he's gonna stick around long enough. Anything but 2 characters that actually like each other.

Sonya is getting way too much airtime lately. I wish she'd go back to her once a month cameos.

Sonia - dreadful actress 'yes, no, yes, no " still love her though

Sorry but Piper is innocent in all of this. She didn't take the money. Tom was right to go after Xanthe. She has spent the money on boobs, shoes and god knows what else. Then Fungus decided to steal the money and bought some trainers. Tom will get his money back. He won't be coming after Piper for it. Unfortunately Aaron has put himself in the firing line. I'd be happy for Tom to bump off Xanthe and Angus and call it quits.

I agree with everybody that Piper did not NEED a new laptop, let alone one that expensive. Yes, she wanted to do the tribute for Doug and Josh (which was lovely of her) but it wasn't strictly speaking necessary. If it was deemed necessary, there was no reason she couldn't have gone to one of her parents who i'm sure, in the circumstances as it was for the funerals, have given (or lent) her the money to get one immediately and they could then have claimed on the insurance as mentioned. It was always too large a gift to acceot from a friend, especially when that friend is a teenager who you'5 know didn't really have the money for it - leading you to wonder how they had got the money. She's met Karl and Susan, she knows their professions and that they are unlikely to be giving Ben the kind of allowance he'd need to have saved that kind of money. Also that Libby is a single parent and also a teacher. So where did she think he'd got the money from?

Even leaving that aside, once she did learn the truth, she could have taken it back to the shop to get at least a partial refund. Or sold it on ebay if the shop wouldn't take it back as it had been used but wasn't faulty.

No, she kept it, because she wanted it - that simple. And it is a luxury item - there is no getting round that.

Star quality, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Directors, Producers, Casting agents, Advertising Execs, Viewers will argue over who has it and who hasn't. There are actors/actresses who have won Oscars (Meryl Streep as an example) who i just don't 'get'. I see they are technically competent in terms of being able to adopt different accents acceptably but they don't 'move' me in their performances and for me that is essential in whether I think an actor is good.

So, no I don't see that Mavournee has 'star quality'. I think she is a pretty girl and decent actress, she's better than many of the teems we've had over 31 years (a lot better than some) and more than adequate for the role but i don't think she is exceptional. But she is good for somebody of her age and she will probably hone her skills as she continues.

I don't think Piper does get hate on here. It's just most people don't think she is the best thing since sliced bread - just a normal girl played by a competent actress who is generally nice and good hearted but does some selfish, stupid things - like most people do.

I also like Xanthe. I did feel for her about how she views herself. I think that, putting on an act that you're confident and streetsmart when actually you're scared, vulnerable, insecure and just desperately want to be liked because you take value from others opinions, not yourself, is probably more representative of most teenagers than the comfortable in her own skin Piper. So, in that respect, I find Xanthe more sympathetic as a character than Piper, even though Piper basically should be the one we sympathise with due to the dreadful tragedy she has just experienced.

There is nothing wrong with a friendship between a 16 and 24 year old so long as that is all it is. But that isn't the case here. Piper said she was 'in love' with Tyler. She was crying to Terese about it. Tyler kissed her. That tips it into possibly romantic and that is why other people (Brad, Josh, Nate, Terese) have voiced their concerns - and in my opinion they are right to. It's just my opinion though, different people have different views on such matters. If it were to be a chaste relationship then maybe it would be different but we know sex is important to Tyler. They are just at different points in their life as to what they'd expect from a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. That is what worries people amongst other things.

Relationships that develop from friendships are great, usually much stronger. But that doesn't change the age gap and her still only being 16/17.

I completely understand why a man that remembers nothing about himself is worried about going into a relationship. Maybe he is giving her mixed signals but that will be because he fancies her (that would be fairly natural) but he is scared of getting involved. Paige does keep pushing it, he has said several times why he is holding back but she keeps approaching him and indicating she wants more.

She might 'just want somebody' but the 'somebody' she has fixated on isn't emotionally capable of a full on relationship presently.

The explosion/framing Paul is just dragging on too much now.

If Piper gives the Macbook back how do you suggest she does her vlogging? She was bought it as a gift and there's no way it should be taken back off her.

Xanthe has spent most of the money on silly things like plastiic surgery. She needs to do more hours at the coffee shop and pay back every penny.

I could not have put it better myself. Spot on.

Piper was practically living with Chas, you seem to be assuming she doesn't want sex herself, maybe she does maybe she doesn't but either way that isn't clear

I just don't get Paige and her emotionless reaction to losing her brother and Grandad. She didn't even go to Doug's funeral and wasn't really seen with Pam either. I don't know whether she is just so self centred that she has no consideration for anyone else (like we saw when she tried to get her parents together or when we found her adoptive mum wasn't at all like she was described) or if she is fixating on JD to avoid feeling the grief her sisters were feeling. I'm leaning towards self centred.

I'm leaning towards her fixating but shitty writers haven't displayed that properly, same ones that have paced the Paul framed up awfully

Sheila saved Xanthe from losing her virginity and saved her from plastic surgery. Definitely not meandering along.

Aaron is starting his own business and is always there to offer advise to people.

Not all characters can have a massive story line going on all the time.

She made it clear to Chas that she wouldn't be sleeping with him. She would spend the night but not in a naked way.

I can't believe that Piper's crap vlog is seen as more important than Xanthe's self esteem issues. Sometimes I'm sure that certain people come out with stuff purely to cause a reaction from the rest of us.