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Lets face it Neighbours is awash with some terrible storylines and it is currently ruining the show. The surrogacy, Jack/Paige, Piper/Tyler, Brooke and Xanthe and the silly Terese Paul rivalry are all irritating storylines which makes the show much less appealing. The show is currently on a really severe downward slope and needs recover quickly. If not we are heading to 2008 levels alarmingly fast.
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I hope Terese is one of the ladies to fall pregnant after sleeping with Paul again. It will be the turning point in the storyline where they drop their silly little feud and stop pretending to hate each other and admit their feelings.
It will be interesting to see the high powered businesswoman Terese cope with having another baby later in life. And the struggles of both Paul and Terese becoming parents again when they're both already grandparents. The baby would also bind the Willis and Robinson families together - two of the shows most legendary families. I'd rather that the likes of Elly, Paige or Piper falling pregnant as there's no long term storyline potential with them, they'll all be gone anyway in a couple of years no doubt. |
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Lets face it Neighbours is awash with some terrible storylines and it is currently ruining the show. The surrogacy, Jack/Paige, Piper/Tyler, Brooke and Xanthe and the silly Terese Paul rivalry are all irritating storylines which makes the show much less appealing. The show is currently on a really severe downward slope and needs recover quickly. If not we are heading to 2008 levels alarmingly fast.
I hate the way Paul's being written since the hotel wars storyline began. I like him as a character always have done, and I think they're trying to make him the old devillish but still likeable rogue he used to be when he and Gail shared that tiny office downstairs in the Lassiters complex. He had some really good storylines back then. Maybe it's because this hotel wars thing has also been allowed to drag on too long and needs wrapping up.. Still not convinced Piper/Tyler should become a couple. I haven't really felt sparks between them, to me it's more of a nice close friendship than a potential romance. I saw more chemistry between her and Angus in their brief little fling than I did with the other two and I like Angus.
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The surrogacy is okay as long as they resist the temptation to trot out the usual cliches but the thought of Sonia getting preggers makes me a bit nervous. I like her but she's not the most emotionally stable person and that stammering stuttering thing she does when she gets nervous or excited gets on my nerves. Just imagine how she'd be with all those pregnancy hormones swirling away inside her for the next 9 months. ![]() This storyline has has lots of potential to be long lasting too if it's written well.And also with:
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Plenty more emotional twists and turns too. |
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I don't think anyone said the issue shouldn't be tackled in a soap - just that it shouldn't be THIS soap. I agree that I don't think a tea-time soap is the right venue to air this issue and also agree that there has been a complete lack of balance and a bad choice of 'hero'.
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I don't get the whole baby thing, the baby will be Soyna and Marks, so how does that work with Steph? She won't be it's Mum, or even blood related to it, it's just weird, and how will Soyna give it up knowing it's actually her child? It's just getting really silly now.
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Whenever Leo Tomato flirts with Teeth or Amy, acts tough to Fungus, or talks business, I think of a teenager trying to buy alcohol with a fake ID. I'm not sure whether it's his oversized clothes, youthful features or general uselessness that makes it impossible for me to take him seriously or care one iota about him
There really is nothing I like about Neighbours right now. |
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One of the surrogacy requirements is that the donor couple agree to no sex during the process just so this doesn't happen. I can't imagine Toadie would be too happy about that either, but I guess Neighbours will conveniently forget about this rule.
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If Paige gets pregnant, I despair ![]() I have a feeling it may be Piper who is one who might get pregnant. |
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That's absurd. It's a drama serial not a news discussion show. It is not required to answer to anybody on the issues it covers or the treatment it gives them.
And the fact is that nobody really knows why Catholic Priests are still expected to be celibate least of all Catholics as the policy was introduced on a Papal whim without theological or Biblical grounds and openly flouted for centuries thereafter! . No. The reason for the tradition is well known and based on Biblical teachings Clerical Celibacy in the Roman Catholic Church is based on the teachings of St Paul Quote:
It is well for a man not to touch a woman. But because of the temptation to immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not rule over her own body, but the husband does; likewise the husband does not rule over his own body, but the wife does. Do not refuse one another except perhaps by agreement for a season, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, lest Satan tempt you through lack of self-control. I say this by way of concession, not of command. I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own special gift from God, one of one kind and one of another (1 Cor. 7:1-7).
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The unmarried man is anxious about the affairs of the Lord, how to please the Lord; but the married man is anxious about worldly affairs, how to please his wife, and his interests are divided. And the unmarried woman or girl is anxious about the affairs of the Lord, how to be holy in body and spirit; but the married woman is anxious about worldly affairs, how to please her husband (1 Cor. 7:32-34).
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"Not all can accept this word, but only those to whom it is granted. Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others; some, because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of God. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it" (Matt. 19:11–12).*
So the tradition of Clerical Celibacy is based on the writings of St Paul as he taught that celibacy allowed one to devote themselves completely to God without having to worry about a spouse and children. Roman Catholicism also teaches that sex outside of marriage is commiting adultery with your future spouse.Can I just point out that it is only Priests of the Roman Catholic Church who vow celibacy? Eastern Catholic clergy are allowed to marry and Priests who covert from other Christian faiths and are already married are allowed to remain married by the Roman Catholic church. Also Jack has repeatedly committed a Mortal Sin by having "impure thoughts" about Paige, let alone sleeping with her. Knowingly and deliberately breaking one of the Ten Commandments, for Catholic, is to commit a Mortal Sin and intention ( ie thinking seriously about committing the sin) is the same as the action. Venial sins are things done without intent or things like non-malicious gossip (Shelia Canning, we may be looking at you) or calling someone a name like "Idiot" in the heat of an argument. The difference is that Mortal Sins require confession and penance, the Venial sins do not. (I'm what is termed a Lapsed Catholic - bought up as Roman Catholic but not currently practising any religion). |
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Ah, right. That makes sense. I'm not up on the ins and outs* of surrogacy rules.
* No pun intended. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I'm quite enjoying Brooke/Xanthe at the moment, I like the woman who plays Xanthe's mum, for someone who doesn't have very much acting experience - I think I read some place she works mainly in radio? - she's not doing a bad job. Paige/Jack is so BORING it should have ended by now, either have Jack stay in the priesthood and give him some family or interactions that don't involve being a priest, let Paige move on or have he and Paige become a proper couple. Enough is enough.
I hate the way Paul's being written since the hotel wars storyline began. I like him as a character always have done, and I think they're trying to make him the old devillish but still likeable rogue he used to be when he and Gail shared that tiny office downstairs in the Lassiters complex. He had some really good storylines back then. Maybe it's because this hotel wars thing has also been allowed to drag on too long and needs wrapping up.. Still not convinced Piper/Tyler should become a couple. I haven't really felt sparks between them, to me it's more of a nice close friendship than a potential romance. I saw more chemistry between her and Angus in their brief little fling than I did with the other two and I like Angus. Paul is really underutilised by the writers. And it is a shame that he is completely detached from everyone else by living in the motel. If only they could move him back into the street, it would allow him to have more storylines and more scenes with characters other than Terese, Steph and Amy. Paul is a character that is so complex and deep that you can do anything with him. He is a writers dream and the current storylines are a complete waste of Stefan Dennis' talents. Just think about what a dislikable character Paul should be viewed as, he has committed Murder, Arson, countless immoral activities yet Stefan Dennis can still make Paul look incredibly vulnerable and make you feel empathy for Paul. Not many actors could do that. So if Neighbours would stop wasting talent and stop focusing on stupid love storylines then it may help the show out of its mess. Paige and Jack is the most forced storyline that i think they have ever done. They dont suit eachother and it is incredibly boring and predictable to watch. This will they/wont they arc has reached its climax a few months ago yet it is still being forced upon us. Neighbours has been very bad towards the catholic church and the whole Simone abuse and the confessional story have been very badly done and have been unfairly portrayed. Really im fed up with it at the moment and i doubt that i will watch it until
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I do agree with Angus, i like him but cant stand the singing. He is quite a fun character and is certainly entertaining. I think he would be good with Xanthe. I dont see how Xanthe and Ben work. Ben would be better suited to Piper in some respects. They bounce off eachother well. Piper and Tyler is just stupid. Why would a bloke such as Tyler be attracted to school girls and surely there are people his age he can be with.
Paul is really underutilised by the writers. And it is a shame that he is completely detached from everyone else by living in the motel. If only they could move him back into the street, it would allow him to have more storylines and more scenes with characters other than Terese, Steph and Amy. Paul is a character that is so complex and deep that you can do anything with him. He is a writers dream and the current storylines are a complete waste of Stefan Dennis' talents. Just think about what a dislikable character Paul should be viewed as, he has committed Murder, Arson, countless immoral activities yet Stefan Dennis can still make Paul look incredibly vulnerable and make you feel empathy for Paul. Not many actors could do that. So if Neighbours would stop wasting talent and stop focusing on stupid love storylines then it may help the show out of its mess. Paige and Jack is the most forced storyline that i think they have ever done. They dont suit eachother and it is incredibly boring and predictable to watch. This will they/wont they arc has reached its climax a few months ago yet it is still being forced upon us. Neighbours has been very bad towards the catholic church and the whole Simone abuse and the confessional story have been very badly done and have been unfairly portrayed. Really im fed up with it at the moment and i doubt that i will watch it until
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I'm just watching as background noise when doing something else now. Paul and Steph's friendship is ok, the Maxine mystery is interesting and Nell is adorable. Apart from that it's just not good. |
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As usual, Xanthe doesn't even listen to what Ben had to say and just tells him to go. It looks like Brooke is trying to make Xanthe think that maybe moving away with her mother is best. I wouldn't be surprised if Brooke slowly has Xanthe only wanting to be with her. So, Terese is doing a deal with Jacka's mother then. Hmm... What's she up to? No doubt Paul will be trying to find out why Jacka's mother was talking to Brad and Terese. Probably something to do with trying to win the war against Robinson's likely.
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I hope Terese is one of the ladies to fall pregnant after sleeping with Paul again. It will be the turning point in the storyline where they drop their silly little feud and stop pretending to hate each other and admit their feelings.
It will be interesting to see the high powered businesswoman Terese cope with having another baby later in life. And the struggles of both Paul and Terese becoming parents again when they're both already grandparents. The baby would also bind the Willis and Robinson families together - two of the shows most legendary families. I'd rather that the likes of Elly, Paige or Piper falling pregnant as there's no long term storyline potential with them, they'll all be gone anyway in a couple of years no doubt. |
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the Maxine mystery is interesting
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I just have a horrible feeling Piper will be pregnant and Brad will attack Tyler assuming it's his
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If Paige gets pregnant, I despair ![]() Of course Neighbours being Neighbours, they've probably known her exact leave date for years and will start the exit storyline two days prior.
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Unlikely, given her 3 years are up in May and no one sees her sticking around.
Of course Neighbours being Neighbours, they've probably known her exact leave date for years and will start the exit storyline two days prior. ![]()
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This surrogacy plotline is absurd. I can't stand Sonia - but this story is painting her as an awful person; putting unnecessary good deeds for her friends above the wishes of her husband. Toadie is looking like a mug for putting up with this. The baby will be Sonia's biological child - Steph will had no claim to it beyond a promise from a woman who, a year ago, couldn't stand her. Why doesn't Steph adopt?
What next? Mark and Steph can't afford the procedure, so Sonia proposes they cut out the middle-man and just let Mark shag her? |
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Don't like the surrogacy story line really
Making me not want to watch |
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I think I'm in the minority of liking Angus however since I've been watching the mooshi monster videos with my baby girl recently I can't help but see Angus as this character from now on 😂
https://youtu.be/_ELRe56vUb8 |
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I just have a horrible feeling Piper will be pregnant and Brad will attack Tyler assuming it's his
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Don't like the surrogacy story line really
Making me not want to watch |
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Is being from the Gold Coast the Oz equivalent of being from Essex or something?
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Is being from the Gold Coast the Oz equivalent of being from Essex or something?
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This storyline has has lots of potential to be long lasting too if it's written well.

