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Is Xanthe studying Japanese? If so, will we see interactions between her and the Tomato brothers and/or their granny
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Are they seriously going straight into the turkey baster storyline in the next couple of episodes? Does Sonya have the shortest menstrual cycle in the world, wasn't the IVF only last week?
Like Amy/Aaron. Aaron is a good character when he's not working as a 'promoter' as it's so unrealistic. Gary is dumb, but Xanthe didn't really try to explain the scamming thing very well. If I was her, I'd have described in detail how her mum scammed the other men, then drew the parallels to Gary but in true soap style she gave a half hearted explanation then didn't object when he didn't listen to her. |
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Are they seriously going straight into the turkey baster storyline in the next couple of episodes? Does Sonya have the shortest menstrual cycle in the world, wasn't the IVF only last week?
Like Amy/Aaron. Aaron is a good character when he's not working as a 'promoter' as it's so unrealistic. Gary is dumb, but Xanthe didn't really try to explain the scamming thing very well. If I was her, I'd have described in detail how her mum scammed the other men, then drew the parallels to Gary but in true soap style she gave a half hearted explanation then didn't object when he didn't listen to her. |
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Are they seriously going straight into the turkey baster storyline in the next couple of episodes? Does Sonya have the shortest menstrual cycle in the world, wasn't the IVF only last week?
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Aaaaand back on the surrogacy cringefest rodeo we go
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Are they seriously going straight into the turkey baster storyline in the next couple of episodes? Does Sonya have the shortest menstrual cycle in the world, wasn't the IVF only last week?
. Yay, Victoria the IVF person is speaking sense about the plan. Shame she's too late. Aren't Mark and Sonya supposed to be fairly bright - so how come neither has noticed that Toadie's never been enthusiastic about the whole surrogacy plan and Steph clearly has had serious second thoughts since Sonya offered to be the donor. |
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I also thought it was just Steph who was ovulating so they went to harvest her eggs but then discovered none were viable. They hadn't been doing the injections long enough to synch up.
I'm finding the whole storyline tiresome though. Steph is constantly changing her mind and so pbviously only doing it to give Mark a child which she's not sure she'll be able to cope with. Toadie clearly hates it and would like to try for their own child. Mark is just easily persuadable and Sonya has this weird martyr/saviour complex going on. Is 'Blaze' officially affiliated with the Church or does Jack just help out unofficially? I thought it was the former as Jack's involvement was crucial to tgem getting funding to stay open a few months ago as he pledged to introduce the same programmes he had in his old Parish. In which case, Paige can't just unilaterally advertise it as a help centre for family plannning etc. Maybe she should go help out at a secular help centre for troubled youths. |
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Is 'Blaze' officially affiliated with the Church or does Jack just help out unofficially? I thought it was the former as Jack's involvement was crucial to tgem getting funding to stay open a few months ago as he pledged to introduce the same programmes he had in his old Parish.
In which case, Paige can't just unilaterally advertise it as a help centre for family plannning etc. Maybe she should go help out at a secular help centre for troubled youths. The Church teaches that all sex outside of marriage is a sin and to be avoided. However, they will help unmarried and teenage mothers find an adoptive family for the child. Regardless of whether Blaze is officially associated with the Church, Paige is either incredibly naïve or just plain stupid to expect a Catholic priest to endorse something that is completely against the Church teachings. |
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I agree, I find Paige infuriating. She had no right yo make any unilateral decisions as it is not her premises, her initiative, anything.
My understanding is that the programme is funded by the Council, partly due to their belief in Brad and Jack due to their track records helping troubled youngsters and Jacks was as a Priest and Brad as a teacher. Therefore, the only people that would be able to make such decisions would be a committee involving all 3 parties, council, school and church. Oddly, the Church helping teenage runaways and expecting mothers has been covered in Neighbours before. Right at the beginning of the show Daphne had Priest friend who she worked with on social.projects and he was involved in Kim Taylors story,who has been speculated as being Leo and David's mother. |
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Has Sonya forgotten she has a nursery? There's been no sight or mention of it in months. She was moaning she wouldn't have enough time to do anything when she was elected mayor, but has seemingly forgotten about these issues since interfering with Mark and Steph.
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Are they seriously going straight into the turkey baster storyline in the next couple of episodes? Does Sonya have the shortest menstrual cycle in the world, wasn't the IVF only last week?
Like Amy/Aaron. Aaron is a good character when he's not working as a 'promoter' as it's so unrealistic. Gary is dumb, but Xanthe didn't really try to explain the scamming thing very well. If I was her, I'd have described in detail how her mum scammed the other men, then drew the parallels to Gary but in true soap style she gave a half hearted explanation then didn't object when he didn't listen to her. .
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I thought that they just tried to harvest Steph's eggs at the hospital not Sonya's?
Yay, Victoria the IVF person is speaking sense about the plan. Shame she's too late. Aren't Mark and Sonya supposed to be fairly bright - so how come neither has noticed that Toadie's never been enthusiastic about the whole surrogacy plan and Steph clearly has had serious second thoughts since Sonya offered to be the donor.
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Its been uncomfortable listening to Sonya talk abut her eggs, but Mark waving around a bag full of his jizz is a bit much for a tea time soap.
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Its been uncomfortable listening to Sonya talk abut her eggs, but Mark waving around a bag full of his jizz is a bit much for a tea time soap.
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This is how I see some of the characters thought processes:
Steph: she's never really wanted a baby. You could tell early on that she was doing it for Mark, and she convinced herself that she would like a baby, too. Now she's not actually going to be the biological mother, she realises that she doesn't actually want a baby and is going along with the idea for Mark. It's always been about Mark and saving her relationship. She allowed her insecurities to drive her early on and now she stuck. Mark and Sonya don't want to see that Toadie isn't comfortable with the whole thing. They would rather turn a blind eye. I do think Sonya feels weird about it now, especially after today where she had that wishful look at Toadie - she knows he's not comfortable. Paige: simply, she thinks she knows Jack and that he would be able to place his personal beliefs above that of the Church's beliefs when working without affiliation at Blaze. This is because a part of her still wants him to choose her. Like Jack said: "where does that leave us?" He brought it back to their relationship, because that is at the heart of all of their miscommunications. I think Paige is fine with handing out leaflets to kids who need help with unplanned pregnancies and whatever else. She's doing something nice. I think in this instance Jack should back off, as the church is not affiliated with Blaze and thus have no input in what they do regardless of Jack's voluntary status. Meanwhile, I love having Lou back. The show misses his type of character and what he brings to the show. |
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This is how I see some of the characters thought processes:
Steph: she's never really wanted a baby. You could tell early on that she was doing it for Mark, and she convinced herself that she would like a baby, too. Now she's not actually going to be the biological mother, she realises that she doesn't actually want a baby and is going along with the idea for Mark. It's always been about Mark and saving her relationship. She allowed her insecurities to drive her early on and now she stuck. Mark and Sonya don't want to see that Toadie isn't comfortable with the whole thing. They would rather turn a blind eye. I do think Sonya feels weird about it now, especially after today where she had that wishful look at Toadie - she knows he's not comfortable. Paige: simply, she thinks she knows Jack and that he would be able to place his personal beliefs above that of the Church's beliefs when working without affiliation at Blaze. This is because a part of her still wants him to choose her. Like Jack said: "where does that leave us?" He brought it back to their relationship, because that is at the heart of all of their miscommunications. I think Paige is fine with handing out leaflets to kids who need help with unplanned pregnancies and whatever else. She's doing something nice. I think in this instance Jack should back off, as the church is not affiliated with Blaze and thus have no input in what they do regardless of Jack's voluntary status. Meanwhile, I love having Lou back. The show misses his type of character and what he brings to the show.
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so at least one source has confirmed the pregnancies, link provided in the Spoiler below
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Its been uncomfortable listening to Sonya talk abut her eggs, but Mark waving around a bag full of his jizz is a bit much for a tea time soap.
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so at least one source has confirmed the pregnancies, link provided in the Spoiler below
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Why would they harvest Sonya's? She's the surrogate so they can be fertilised in a more natural way - some of Mark's little swimmers fired on up there ![]() The original plan was to harvest Steph's eggs, use iVF to fertilise them with Mark's sperm and then implant the embryos into Sonya. The baby would be Steph and Mark's biological child. When the tests showed that Steph did not have viable eggs, it was decided (mainly by Sonya) that Mark and Steph would get an egg donor which would be fertilised and implanted into Sonya. It was too expensive for Mark and Steph, they'd have to go to the States, and both Steph's sisters refused to be egg donors. Mark and Steph were starting to think/discuss other options including adoption when Sonya volunteered to be both the surrogate and egg donor. |
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Yep! I think David's either gay or bisexual. The way he stood in front of Aaron when at his house instead of just leaving after he had finished talking to him tells me that he fancies Aaron. I definitely think he's attracted to the same sex. I agree with what that woman from the hospital said about women being surrogates. I know Sonia has the best of intentions, but unless she's totally finished with having babies and doesn't want any more, I think she'll become attached to it before it's born. I really don't trust Sonia not to become attached to the baby when she's carrying it.
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Yep! I think David's either gay or bisexual. The way he stood in front of Aaron when at his house instead of just leaving after he had finished talking to him tells me that he fancies Aaron. I definitely think he's attracted to the same sex. I agree with what that woman from the hospital said about women being surrogates. I know Sonia has the best of intentions, but unless she's totally finished with having babies and doesn't want any more, I think she'll become attached to it before it's born. I really don't trust Sonia not to become attached to the baby when she's carrying it.
I do wonder if, at some point, the whole thing will get confused by everyone's favourite soap cliché of the "Miracle Pregnancy for the Infertile Woman!" with Steph. |
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BIB - Sonya clearly wants another baby. The fact she wanted to breastfeed the baby - when they were planning to use Steph's eggs - should have raised some major red flags about how over-invested in the process she was. Especially in light of Toadie's injury and fertility problems.
I do wonder if, at some point, the whole thing will get confused by everyone's favourite soap cliché of the "Miracle Pregnancy for the Infertile Woman!" with Steph. |
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This is how I see some of the characters thought processes:
Steph: she's never really wanted a baby. You could tell early on that she was doing it for Mark, and she convinced herself that she would like a baby, too. Now she's not actually going to be the biological mother, she realises that she doesn't actually want a baby and is going along with the idea for Mark. It's always been about Mark and saving her relationship. She allowed her insecurities to drive her early on and now she stuck. Mark and Sonya don't want to see that Toadie isn't comfortable with the whole thing. They would rather turn a blind eye. I do think Sonya feels weird about it now, especially after today where she had that wishful look at Toadie - she knows he's not comfortable. Paige: simply, she thinks she knows Jack and that he would be able to place his personal beliefs above that of the Church's beliefs when working without affiliation at Blaze. This is because a part of her still wants him to choose her. Like Jack said: "where does that leave us?" He brought it back to their relationship, because that is at the heart of all of their miscommunications. I think Paige is fine with handing out leaflets to kids who need help with unplanned pregnancies and whatever else. She's doing something nice. I think in this instance Jack should back off, as the church is not affiliated with Blaze and thus have no input in what they do regardless of Jack's voluntary status. Meanwhile, I love having Lou back. The show misses his type of character and what he brings to the show. ![]() As for Paige, this is obviously just a set up for a Paige pregnancy story - just to make the whole priest story even better.
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The original plan was to harvest Steph's eggs, use iVF to fertilise them with Mark's sperm and then implant the embryos into Sonya. The baby would be Steph and Mark's biological child.
When the tests showed that Steph did not have viable eggs, it was decided (mainly by Sonya) that Mark and Steph would get an egg donor which would be fertilised and implanted into Sonya. It was too expensive for Mark and Steph, they'd have to go to the States, and both Steph's sisters refused to be egg donors. Mark and Steph were starting to think/discuss other options including adoption when Sonya volunteered to be both the surrogate and egg donor. |
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Erm... so is it supposed to be Christmas in Neighbours now then? I know they go off air through December, so unless we've jumped forward in time by a few weeks why the f*ck are people putting up Christmas trees at home?!?!?!
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