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Neighbours - Discussion Thread (Part 3)
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Lady Voldemort
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“Sonya can be a bit annoying, but Mark is lovely! They definitely shouldn't be a couple - unthinkable.”

Even when Mark is being a bit twatty, he is still very nice to look at. I would hate to have my enjoyment tarnished by even more on screen Sonya involvement.
Collins1965
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Nor me. But then I'm watching it objectively!”

I saw a little smirk and so did other people. If you didn't see it fair enough but I don't think accusing us of not being objective is in order. I comment on what I see before me not what I do or do not want to see. Simple as.
nats18
03-12-2016
having bn all for dees return I'm scared now there is no way it can be done without her being a bitch unless it's amnesia and they already did that
Tweety Pie
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“And nobody in real life ever makes a mistake with their wardrobe? This is Neighbours, not Dallas or Dynasty. The wardrobe dept is supposed to dress the character in accord with the character's character not set up a runway show!”

Calm down I just said that I didn't like those two particular outfits as they didn't suit them. Never mentioned anything about Dallas Dynasty or a runway show
mrs.deschanel
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by Nefersitra:
“I wondered why they made a point for Victoria to mention that her partner was female and then that their relationship had broken down.

Sonya is a scheming, selfish cow. Steph and Mark told her they didn't want to go ahead with the surrogacy and both they and Toadie - her husband - told her to take the morning after pill to make sure she wouldn't get pregnant with Mark's child. She lead them to believe she had, even lying that she was having her period during the wedding, but nooooo, Sonya wants a baby so she's going to have a baby. And she can still play the "look how kind and good I am" card because she offered to have a baby for Mark and Steph and now they've changed their minds so I'm going to keep the baby and love it. Stupid woman. Toadie has had the tests to see if he could have a another baby with you! Why wasn't it enough for you to try with him, YOUR BLOODY HUSBAND! Why are you obsessed with carrying Mark Brennan's child?

You might want to watch the promo video, mrs. Deschanel, because the father is telling Paige he wants to be involved and you'll have the break to get used to the idea.

With any luck, Dee's return will be a success and she'll come back permanently, reuniting with Toadie. Sonya doesn't deserve him - I'd struggle to say who she does deserve.”

I've seen the promo now . I wonder if that's what the girl at Blaze who wanted an abortion was leading to - Paige considering a termination. I have no idea why the guy has to be around her all of the time. Why did he go to the wedding which was a civil ceremony therefore against his religious beliefs? If he has chosen to he Church then he should stick to that and stay away from Paige. It's quite offensive that he's all religious on one hand and sniffing around a woman on the other. I know people can be two faced but he's a Priest and should be more respectful of his vows. Also he gets on my wick which is why I'd rather it was Tyler. Lauren left Erinsborough 4 months after original Brad and he'd not been near her for ages so maybe it's a family thing to be knocked up and not know for six months or so . Please don't let me give up my little dream of it not being Jack's, him sodding off and Piper flouncing when she finds out it's her boyfriend's

Sonya is selfish with her selflessness. Surely someone with her addiction issues who is just so flipping controlling of other people wouldn't even be considered to be a surrogate in the first place. I used to like her, then could tolerate her and now she's irritating me. She knew she was pregnant and it wasn't her period but chose to lie to her husband and the couple who'd backed out of the baby plan. Well I hope she's happy with herself and I hope Toadie finds Dee soon and dumps her taking Nell with him.

The surrogacy woman would just be like Belinda all over again. Someone counselling Steph when she's at a low point and needy and she gets attached in a sexual way. Hopefully Victoria will know better than to go there.
fiagomez
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by Collins1965:
“I saw a little smirk and so did other people. If you didn't see it fair enough but I don't think accusing us of not being objective is in order. I comment on what I see before me not what I do or do not want to see. Simple as.”

she definitely did and as a sonya fan, it was horrible to see coz i never used to see her as being anything but kind and helpful and the kinda person i would love to have as a friend...
BootsNo7
03-12-2016
I once liked Sonya and am quite capable of being objective but this story-line has been so much about her and not the other people involved that I cannot help but think she is secretly pleased that she is pregnant.

Toadie has been completely side-lined and of course he will support her - she is his wife. Shame she does not support her husband in the same way!
Collins1965
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by fiagomez:
“she definitely did and as a sonya fan, it was horrible to see coz i never used to see her as being anything but kind and helpful and the kinda person i would love to have as a friend...”

Exactly. Sonya has lost her objectivity in this instance. It started off as a good deed but she really wants this baby for herself but can't or won't admit that to herself.

She is not a bad person per se but this is all about her wants and needs and to hell with what Toadie or Steph want. Mark will be delighted of course because he wants his own child more than anything too.
Nefersitra
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by Tejas:
“Sonya flat out refused to take the morning after pill, and Toadie said he supported her decision. I think you're watching something different to me here.

I never saw any smirk either?”

Oh, I obviously missed that, but it doesn't change that she lied about having her period when she suspected she was pregnant. Nor that she has ever since she decided to volunteer to carry a baby for Mark and Steph, she's steam-rolled over other people's feelings and misgivings.

"Her concerns are not my concerns" sums up Sonya's attitude to this whole scenario; St. Sonya has decided that Mark and Steph needed her help and she was going to help them no matter what. If I give her the benefit of the doubt, it's like she only hears the words people are saying at face value, not the way they say them or the subtext; the only person who has been anywhere near as enthusiastic as her is Mark, and he's not as gung-ho as Sonya.
LightningIguana
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by Nefersitra:
“Oh, I obviously missed that, but it doesn't change that she lied about having her period when she suspected she was pregnant. Nor that she has ever since she decided to volunteer to carry a baby for Mark and Steph, she's steam-rolled over other people's feelings and misgivings.

"Her concerns are not my concerns" sums up Sonya's attitude to this whole scenario; St. Sonya has decided that Mark and Steph needed her help and she was going to help them no matter what. If I give her the benefit of the doubt, it's like she only hears the words people are saying at face value, not the way they say them or the subtext; the only person who has been anywhere near as enthusiastic as her is Mark, and he's not as gung-ho as Sonya.”

I wonder if she'll claim she had her period and then in a month or so tell Toadie she's miraculously pregnant via his defective swimmers
Collins1965
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by Nefersitra:
“Oh, I obviously missed that, but it doesn't change that she lied about having her period when she suspected she was pregnant. Nor that she has ever since she decided to volunteer to carry a baby for Mark and Steph, she's steam-rolled over other people's feelings and misgivings.

"Her concerns are not my concerns" sums up Sonya's attitude to this whole scenario; St. Sonya has decided that Mark and Steph needed her help and she was going to help them no matter what. If I give her the benefit of the doubt, it's like she only hears the words people are saying at face value, not the way they say them or the subtext; the only person who has been anywhere near as enthusiastic as her is Mark, and he's not as gung-ho as Sonya.”

Actually I believe that she genuinely thought the cramping was the start of her period. Quite often the symptoms of very early pregnancy can mirror those of oncoming period. But she was very quick to do a test all the same!!
fiagomez
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by Collins1965:
“Exactly. Sonya has lost her objectivity in this instance. It started off as a good deed but she really wants this baby for herself but can't or won't admit that to herself.

She is not a bad person per se but this is all about her wants and needs and to hell with what Toadie or Steph want. Mark will be delighted of course because he wants his own child more than anything too.”

i did at the beginning very much believe that she genuinely wanted to help steph and mark, but something has changed and she is now she is not the sonya i normally love!!

i'm wondering if they are paving the way for a sonya and mark relationship?
i hope not as i love sonya and toadie together and think they work well together....
Collins1965
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by fiagomez:
“i did at the beginning very much believe that she genuinely wanted to help steph and mark, but something has changed and she is now she is not the sonya i normally love!!

i'm wondering if they are paving the way for a sonya and mark relationship?
i hope not as i love sonya and toadie together and think they work well together....”

I think Sonya and Mark will definitely be drawn together as a result of this pregnancy but I am not sure if they will fully get together as a couple. Dee's return is short term I think so whilst Sonya and Toadie will go through the mill I doubt they will permanently break up.
clever3000
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by Nefersitra:
“I wondered why they made a point for Victoria to mention that her partner was female and then that their relationship had broken down.”

Well when Victoria was first on a couple of years ago she was with Ellen Crabb and they were the parents of Josie Lamb who was Callum's girlfriend at the time. Victoria was Josie's biological mother. But the mention of her partner being female and that the relationship had broken down was to remind some viewers about them being together when they last appeared on screen.

It seems as though they will go down the line of Mark ending up with Sonya and Steph being in a love triangle with Victoria and Ellen.
HavingALaugh
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by mrs.deschanel:
“It says "est 1991" and the camera zoomed in and focussed on it when Piper was mooning over him the first time. The character was meant to be 22 but is now 25 the same as the actor.”

Ooh thank you. I must admit that I do like them together, I forget about her age sometimes because the age of the actress.



I saw Sonya's smirk too..does anyone listen to the Neighbuzz podcast? has me laughing! Will be listening to that to get my Neighbours fix.
Liparus
03-12-2016
Originally Posted by Towie1977:
“Neighbours has been really good since the balloon trip from hell so I hope it continues. it is so much better than the other soaps and I hope the Dee story brings people back. It deserves more viewers than it gets.”

As I mentioned earlier I haven't watched the show since circa 2008.

I have been drawn back by the Dee story as I was an avid watcher back in those days.

Glad to see Susan, Karl, Lou, Paul and Steph still in it and of course Toadie.
zx50
03-12-2016
So Paige could be pregnant with Jack's baby then. The question is, will she tell him if she decides to keep it? Hmm... Looks like Piper's got exactly what she's been desperate for for ages now. Terese will be happy about that then. Looks like Sonia's pregnant as well. Steph won't be happy at all about that. Sigh... Just another day in Ramsay Street.
kitkat1971
03-12-2016
Bit late for me to rewatch now as I wiped it so might have misread Sonyas expression. To me it seemed a mix of all sorts.

I don't doubt that she is pleased about te baby and pleased for her as she wants another baby whether she can admit that or not. I think any uoset or worry would more be to do with her knowing that other peoples reactions will be and what problems they'll cause her.
kitkat1971
03-12-2016
Could Jack not have been at the wedding because he has been working alongside Brad fir months at Blaze and they have become friends? Not everything is about Paige.

As for a civil ceremony being against his ekigion, he was there in a personal, not professional capacity so will have more relaxed boundaries. If he didn't he should be boycotting Harolds because the owner Lauren, was 'living in sin' the past year?

The family planning notices at Blaze.were different as it was officially affiliated with the Catholic Church. He was there in his professional capacity.

Yes, no doubt termination will come up as an option with Paige given Jack's views on it.
mrs.deschanel
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Could Jack not have been at the wedding because he has been working alongside Brad fir months at Blaze and they have become friends? Not everything is about Paige.

As for a civil ceremony being against his ekigion, he was there in a personal, not professional capacity so will have more relaxed boundaries. If he didn't he should be boycotting Harolds because the owner Lauren, was 'living in sin' the past year?

The family planning notices at Blaze.were different as it was officially affiliated with the Catholic Church. He was there in his professional capacity.

Yes, no doubt termination will come up as an option with Paige given Jack's views on it.”

Whether he friends with Brad or not he should stay away from temptation. He was practically drooling over Paige. How many times does she have to tell him? Stay away does mean wander into her house or turn up to her parents' wedding. There's also a big difference between having a coffee where someone lives over the brush and attending a ceremony that in your eyes isn't right. I think he picks and chooses and I really don't like him. In this case I'm on her side. He even shagged her when she was injured and vulnerable. He know how she feels so he should be the bigger person and do what she asks - stay away.
Tyyleer
04-12-2016
I love Sonya!!!
SpiderMan 83
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by eveningstar:
“Also no mention of Imogen at all, you'd think she'd never existed. At least Lauren's children were mentioned even though the reasons for their absence were vague and not very believable.”

Yup, you could have had Terese or Piper say "Imogen wished them the best, but it is still to painful right now for her to be back their. Or Brad could have mentiond her in his toast. Piper was more interested in Tyler and her new family than her Real sister and mom. Tptb just seem to want a Brad, Lauren and Paige family unit and sod the rest.
Amy76
04-12-2016
Can't wait to see what reason will be given for Dee being alive all these years but not getting in touch. Surely it can't be amnesia, or a witness protection thing. What will it be?

I laughed when Therese and Paul sneaked into the Brennan house to get the memory card from the camera and didn't spot Piper's bridesmaid dress discarded on the floor. Thankfully it was not her school uniform. No doubt we will be treated to a scene where he ravishes her in her uniform at some point. Urgh - such a bad and unsuitable pairing.

I hated the way it showed them in bed. Funny that it was the same blue bed sheets that he bought the day he thought he was going to sleep with Imogen. I know Piper was desperate for him, but honestly was she not grossed out that he has slept with her sister quite recently and also went out with her other sister too? If it turns out that Drab and Therese give them their blessing, that will be totally unbelievable. What parent would approve of their teenage daughter going out with an adult man that had also gone with both other sisters?

It would be great if it turns out he is the father of Paige's baby - but it is sure to be Jack's. Paige and Jack are not suited either. They have nothing in common and he is totally not her type. She doesn't have a religious bone in her body and there is just no spark between them. It was horrible when he slept with her and took off his dog collar, but then still refused to leave the church. Well he will have to now if he is the baby's father.

I can't wait until it's back in January!
SpiderMan 83
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by zx50:
“So Paige could be pregnant with Jack's baby then. The question is, will she tell him if she decides to keep it? Hmml”

It will deffo be Tyler's just to add Drama. Could be why
Spoiler
in the promo Piper Speeds off.
Get Den Watts
04-12-2016
Originally Posted by HavingALaugh:
“Ooh thank you. I must admit that I do like them together, I forget about her age sometimes because the age of the actress.



I saw Sonya's smirk too..does anyone listen to the Neighbuzz podcast? has me laughing! Will be listening to that to get my Neighbours fix.”

Yeah. You should also follow Neighblog on Twitter.
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