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Neighbours - Discussion Thread (Part 3)
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Jayma
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by SpiderMan 83:
“Not hate it is more annoyance at how both Paige and Piper have been written lately. They just seem to take on their fathers selfishness.”

Well the apple doesn't fall far from the tree!

Actually I think Piper shares some of Terese's traits too. Can be very likeable and loyal, but also has a tendency to show some spiteful behaviour. There was a time Terese was quite nasty to Paige (although some would argue it was because Paige lied to them about her identity), but even Imogen and Josh weren't impressed with her actions. And her involvement in getting the false testimony against Paul in the trial didn't cover her in glory either.
mrs.deschanel
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“maybe I am being kind due to her being hot, but there is alot of hate for both her and her half sister, (who I actually have more of an objection to) in this thread. Its just too much. Also in what way was that party out of control?”

I don't hate her - I've explained before why I think she is how she is and her adoptive parents and Lauren are to blame for never correcting her behaviour. If you do something all your life and no one once says it's wrong (and you're pretty self centred anyway) you'll just carry on oblivious. I don't hate Piper either although I dislike her manipulation, lies and flouncing about being vile to other people. For me that's bad writing as she wasn't such a brat when she arrived. Tyler was mooning after Paige even when she was with Mark and you could see how hurt he was. He behaved well with Piper and didn't approve of her lying. That's why I'm not condemning Tyler. Paige is selfish and has never shown affection for Piper, Piper has ruined the relationship with Tyler with her own childish behaviour. Tyler was offered something he wanted for a very long time and took it. None of them deserve to be hated but none deserve a pat on the back either.
zx50
27-07-2016
Terese shouldn't be surprised that Paul is going to fire her once he gets Lassiter's back. After all, she tried her best to get him locked up instead of just letting nature take its course. I knew Paul would start setting out his plans for revenge once he got released. Amy did the wrong thing snapping at that fella who went to her work place. All she had to do was say: "can I help you?". If he made a comment about her work back then, then tell him to get lost.
clever3000
27-07-2016
The thing with Piper is that she digs herself into a lot of holes and they are usually self inflicted. At the moment the poor girl can't catch a break it is just terrible all round. Since she returned her life has just been a car crash. It would be nice for the writers to leave her be for a bit.
BOOST
27-07-2016
Is Neighbours not on BBC ONE anymore?
Jayma
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by BOOST:
“Is Neighbours not on BBC ONE anymore?”

Not since around 2008 I think. It moved to Channel 5.
clever3000
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by BOOST:
“Is Neighbours not on BBC ONE anymore?”

Im not sure if this is a serious question! The last episode on BBC One was on 8th February 2008! Times move on Channel 5 is the place to go now.
BootsNo7
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by zx50:
“Terese shouldn't be surprised that Paul is going to fire her once he gets Lassiter's back. After all, she tried her best to get him locked up instead of just letting nature take its course. I knew Paul would start setting out his plans for revenge once he got released. Amy did the wrong thing snapping at that fella who went to her work place. All she had to do was say: "can I help you?". If he made a comment about her work back then, then tell him to get lost.”

BIB all in all Therese seems to have got off lightly for what was a really serious thing to do. She is always telling Piper to do the right thing but doesn't do it herself.
Dr K Noisewater
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by Jayma:
“Haha! Good to see you've thought about this deeply, kitkat! I'll never look at that sofa in the same way again!



Great rant, lobeydosser! I hate Paul for the fact that when all is well in his world, he feeds his happiness at the expense of others, and is thoroughly detestable. But when he's down, he makes me feel so sorry for him eventually, after feeling pleased he is having a comeuppance. Appreciating the character of Paul is somewhat like being addicted to a toxic substance!



I'm with those who would like to see Amy and Jack in a relationship - much more suited. Paige, Paige, Paige...formerly one of my favourite characters. What have they done to you?! I hope Jack realises what a lucky escape he's had. I'm extremely fed up of Jack and Paige seemingly having the same conversation over and over again.



You missed Mason? Oh what a treat for you! An epically successful 'FFS Get Rid Of...' thread if ever I've seen one. Mason looked very similar to B*** and I was always convinced that he was originally intended to be B***'s son, but they axed the actor and introduced Paige instead - giving her the 'mystery family member' storyline originally intended for Amy and Paul!



Totally agree - Tyler is just as much, if not more to blame as Paige. Very selfish actions on their part, while not considering Piper's feelings - someone they're both supposed to care for deeply.





Oh don't worry, she still is for me. All that stuttering, frowning and hand-waving she does makes me want to throw my remote at the TV. Although I've always loved anything she does with the little one playing Nell. She's fantastic with her.”

Yes i'm convinced Mason was originally intended to be Brad's son. During a conversation with Mason about relationships (when Mason was seeing that Rihannon girl) Matt mentioned how when he first met Lauren they dated for a few months before splitting up, they then reunited three months later and got engaged. It was an odd thing to drop into conversation about their backstory. Its obvious that the original storyline was going to be that Lauren reunited with Brad and had an affair with him in that three month period and got pregnant with Mason before reuniting with Matt and passing the baby off as his. However the actor who played Mason quit before the storyline really got going so it was quickly dropped and instead Lauren had a baby (Paige) with Brad before meeting Matt. Because it was a hasty re-write that's why the timeline doesn't make sense, Mason celebrated his 18th in February 2013 meaning he was born in February 1995 Lauren only left Ramsay street 11 months before that in March 1994 and was not visibly pregnant. She couldn't possibly have fell pregnant and subsequently gave birth to two children by two different men in 11 months!
lobeydosser
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by Dr K Noisewater:
“Yes i'm convinced Mason was originally intended to be Brad's son. During a conversation with Mason about relationships (when Mason was seeing that Rihannon girl) Matt mentioned how when he first met Lauren they dated for a few months before splitting up, they then reunited three months later and got engaged. It was an odd thing to drop into conversation about their backstory. Its obvious that the original storyline was going to be that Lauren reunited with Brad and had an affair with him in that three month period and got pregnant with Mason before reuniting with Matt and passing the baby off as his. However the actor who played Mason quit before the storyline really got going so it was quickly dropped and instead Lauren had a baby (Paige) with Brad before meeting Matt. Because it was a hasty re-write that's why the timeline doesn't make sense, Mason celebrated his 18th in February 2013 meaning he was born in February 1995 Lauren only left Ramsay street 11 months before that in March 1994 and was not visibly pregnant. She couldn't possibly have fell pregnant and subsequently gave birth to two children by two different men in 11 months!”

She could if she was in Neighbours!
lobeydosser
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by Jimmy Skitz:
“no I see when Paige is in the wrong and she was very inconsiderate, though still not actually doing anything wrong as they were both single, but some people in here would twist her sneezing to her trying to spread a deadly disease.

Again Tyler and Piper we never officially in a relationship, he insisted they needed her parents blessing which they never got and he finished it for good the night of the formal”

I d on't think a couple of snogs in his car and some driving lessons could be classed as a relationship. They never went on a date, and Piper calling him her bf was more wishful thinking than anything. Therese and Brad didn't realise how she felt till they saw the tape she made. So as they were never known as an item it is maybe not surprising that Paige did not realise exactly how Piper felt - but Tyler did!
Bumblebee_x
27-07-2016
So Xanthe becomes temporary friends with Alison and so Piper makes friends with a cat?!

Granted it was adorable & I love cats, but even I thought it a bit random! Unless they're going through a series of animal cameos culminating in the snake we saw in the "coming up" clips last week!

This is changing the subject from Piper/Paige/Tyler but I have warmed to Gary as a character. I just wonder if the writers will go down the predictable line of doing Paul's dirty work for him. (Will the Worry Tree be able to hold anymore pegs?! )

Also, I noticed Charlie called Steph "Mum" in today's episode whereas previously, I recall he just called her Steph. It was nice anyway
lobeydosser
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by SpiderMan 83:
“Paige lovers only see one side to her, just like you know who with Piper. I think because Lauren feels she missed out on Paige growing up. She feels she needs to pamper to her i guess. Tbf to Brad it must have been hard to choose between his daughters and he did give Paige a telling off.”

I can see why Lauren is lenient with Paige (although a bit of tough love would be a good idea!). She spent years thinking her child had died at birth and kept that secret inside her all that time. Then she discovered the child is alive and well and her own mother deceived her, Couple that with the fact that all her other children have left home, and Paige is all she's got.

Paige is a good example of a character ruined by the writers. The way she's been written lately makes her hard to sympathise with. There was so much potential when she arrived. Remember Imogen, and how she suddenly became obnoxious? Whatever are these people thinking of? They introduce a character and then proceed to ruin them.

Another one they are wasting is Aaron. I think he was just introduced as a love interest for Nate, hot on the heels of Chris. Now they don't seem to know what to do with I'm, yet he is a pleasant character but all they do is give him silly 'jobs' that wouldn't keep a mouse in breadcrumbs.
retrovertigo
28-07-2016
I take it the writers are all smoking Walters blue stuff at the moment? Paige sleeping with Tyler and then deciding the best course of action is to confess to Piper? and that she only thought Piper "liked" Tyler? What planet has she been on the past few weeks...apart from planet self absorbed of course

Now Paul and Terese are somehow going to raise what I assume is approaching tens of millions to buy Lassiters? And theirs will no doubt be the only bids that get considered.

I notice Madison almost had a skirt on in one episode. It looked more like a belt when she sat down in front of Terese I approve!
Gulftastic
28-07-2016
Piper and the cat reminds me of wonderful Elle and her cat named 'Cat'.
clever3000
28-07-2016
Why isn't Susan realising that to an extent the cycle lanes are her fault. If she hadn't goaded Karl into campaigning then the issues wouldn't be there. In fact the campaign wouldn't even take place. Instead she is just getting angry with Karl and Sonya without thinking that she is at fault to some extent. Surely Susan would realise that she is at fault. Her character would be able to recognise this and it seems strange that she hasn't.

It was funny to hear the Sugar and Spice song again, its been a long time since it has been on, although it used to be on every episode.

On a serious note if the rumour is true it is very sad to hear of the passing of Vivean Gray who played Mrs Mangel. Very sad to hear, and what an iconic character she played. She really will be missed.
lobeydosser
28-07-2016
These bike lanes have really stirred things up! But at least Karl has spared us the lycra by donning a hoodie!

Did my beady old eyes deceive me or did the WWStar headline read, 'Mayor backPEDDLES on bike lanes'? Can't they spell?

Elly is a bit of a cow, isn't she? Granted she had no idea Piper thought she owned Tyler in the bar, but there was no need to gloat yesterday. In her position it's a bit unprofessional!

And she did seem to be gloating when Steph spoke to her!
Collins1965
28-07-2016
I don't like Elly at all. She started that whole thing with Piper by coming over and making a smart remark and then when Piper retaliated she ran off crying! Hardly behaviour becoming of a teacher. Of course Piper should not have spoken back to her but really I thought it was unfair that she kopped the whole blame for it.

Elly seems to want to cause trouble for Mark and Steph as well. I don't care how heartbroken she is over her ex her behaviour since she arrived has been immature and selfish. Herself and Paige should become best friends, they are well suited to one another.
mrs.deschanel
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Collins1965:
“I don't like Elly at all. She started that whole thing with Piper by coming over and making a smart remark and then when Piper retaliated she ran off crying! Hardly behaviour becoming of a teacher. Of course Piper should not have spoken back to her but really I thought it was unfair that she kopped the whole blame for it.

Elly seems to want to cause trouble for Mark and Steph as well. I don't care how heartbroken she is over her ex her behaviour since she arrived has been immature and selfish. Herself and Paige should become best friends, they are well suited to one another.”

She is absolutely horrible. It doesn't help that she can't talk properly round the set of teeth she's borrowed from a passing horse. There are no redeeming qualities at all - even her being nice to Xanthe was inappropriately done. Even Paige doesn't deserve a friend like Elly - Paige is self absorbed but she's not sly and bitchy. She's a horrible character played by a horrible actress. She wasn't good in H&A either although I only saw her at the end of her stint as I didn't watch for many years.
Deschanel
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by clever3000:
“Why isn't Susan realising that to an extent the cycle lanes are her fault. If she hadn't goaded Karl into campaigning then the issues wouldn't be there. In fact the campaign wouldn't even take place. Instead she is just getting angry with Karl and Sonya without thinking that she is at fault to some extent. Surely Susan would realise that she is at fault. Her character would be able to recognise this and it seems strange that she hasn't.”

Not sure Susan needs to take any responsibility for the bike lane fiasco. The line of responsibility has evolved since she made the crack about Karl never following through with his ideas. You'd have to have a victim complex to think your throwaway comment (which she didn't know Karl had heard) was responsible for death threats and council budget issues.

The person responsible for all this is the hit & run driver. Who was the hit & run driver? Are we supposed to believe it's Clive West, the man waging war against Sonya? Karl and Aaron have continued campaigning for bike lanes, even after Clive West started his hate campaign by mowing down the bikes and threatening Sonya. Now there's death threats and brick throwing targeting Toadie, too. I think it's safe to say Susan is not responsible for all that.

I do think that was way harsh of Susan to talk to the Star, knowing Tim Collins has a vendetta against her. Sonya is supposed to be her friend. She's adding fuel to Clive West's fire.

I see Sonya has an office! Wasn't expecting that.

Elly was so caviller about nearly mowing down Steph and Charlie. Sometimes I think she's a little over friendly with Xanthe, and other times it feels just right. Some kids do respond to this kind of teaching better than the alternative. But then I think what if Elly was a guy? The level of friendliness would probably seem inappropriate.
fiagomez
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by mrs.deschanel:
“She is absolutely horrible. It doesn't help that she can't talk properly round the set of teeth she's borrowed from a passing horse. There are no redeeming qualities at all - even her being nice to Xanthe was inappropriately done. Even Paige doesn't deserve a friend like Elly - Paige is self absorbed but she's not sly and bitchy. She's a horrible character played by a horrible actress. She wasn't good in H&A either although I only saw her at the end of her stint as I didn't watch for many years.”

Hahaha! Her teeth are a bit distracting and weird
Fee77
28-07-2016
Random thought, but I've always wondered how the kids at school can tell which school bag is theirs when they are all the same.....yes I am that sad
mrs.deschanel
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by fiagomez:
“Hahaha! Her teeth are a bit distracting and weird ”

When Billie Piper has her veneers done she whistled when she talked and her mouth looked too small for her teeth. Jodi whatserface is similar only she can't enunciate well. Billie looked way better in Penny Dreadful (compared to when she came back to Dr Who with the new teeth) so maybe she got used to them and Jodi will too. I can't see Elly improving though. She makes Paige look sweet and thoughtful.
lobeydosser
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by mrs.deschanel:
“When Billie Piper has her veneers done she whistled when she talked and her mouth looked too small for her teeth. Jodi whatserface is similar only she can't enunciate well. Billie looked way better in Penny Dreadful (compared to when she came back to Dr Who with the new teeth) so maybe she got used to them and Jodi will too. I can't see Elly improving though. She makes Paige look sweet and thoughtful.”

She seems to go out of her way to be bitchy! And I agree about the teeth! S`he looks like Jack from On The Buses!
B*witched
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by mrs.deschanel:
“She is absolutely horrible. It doesn't help that she can't talk properly round the set of teeth she's borrowed from a passing horse. There are no redeeming qualities at all - even her being nice to Xanthe was inappropriately done. Even Paige doesn't deserve a friend like Elly - Paige is self absorbed but she's not sly and bitchy. She's a horrible character played by a horrible actress. She wasn't good in H&A either although I only saw her at the end of her stint as I didn't watch for many years.”

Laughing so much at this.
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