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Old 02-08-2016, 21:52
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OK so Piper is going to

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Completely proving everyone's point that she's immature and petty. Maybe she learned that trick from Ned though.
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Old 02-08-2016, 22:00
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Completely proving everyone's point that she's immature and petty. Maybe she learned that trick from Ned though.
Quite.

Although this once again proves how immature Piper is I don't see how it makes what Tyler and Paige are doing okay re hurting her.

What they've done is wrong, not because they aren't single but because they know how Piper feels about Tyler and her reaction is wrong.

Really, it is hard to find anybody likeable or sympathetic in this.
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Old 02-08-2016, 22:29
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So is Charlie just living in Erinsborough full time then?
I suspect we are being encouraged to forget that Max and his new wife that looks like Debbie off Addams Family Values ever existed.
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Old 02-08-2016, 22:47
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I suspect we are being encouraged to forget that Max and his new wife that looks like Debbie off Addams Family Values ever existed.
Steph totally mentioned Max for all of two seconds today "Oh no, what will I tell Max!" but Mark told her to forget about Max...so she did.

Glad I'm not the only one who feels they missed a bit about Charlie. He came to visit and...never left?
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Old 02-08-2016, 22:50
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Quite.

Although this once again proves how immature Piper is I don't see how it makes what Tyler and Paige are doing okay re hurting her.

What they've done is wrong, not because they aren't single but because they know how Piper feels about Tyler and her reaction is wrong.

Really, it is hard to find anybody likeable or sympathetic in this.
I still think that Tyler has feelings for Paige - more than he ever had for Piper. Paige you can't forgive though as she knows her sister "loves" Tyler. She just doesn't care as long as she's getting her own way. She "loves" Jack and is using Tyler to make herself feel better. I say "loves" as I don't think either of them really love Tyler or Jack and are infatuated more than anything else.
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Old 02-08-2016, 23:01
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I still think that Tyler has feelings for Paige - more than he ever had for Piper. Paige you can't forgive though as she knows her sister "loves" Tyler. She just doesn't care as long as she's getting her own way. She "loves" Jack and is using Tyler to make herself feel better. I say "loves" as I don't think either of them really love Tyler or Jack and are infatuated more than anything else.
I have to agree. Paige does not love anyone but herself and Piper was deeply infatuated with Tyler and thinks she loves him but will surely see that she is better off without him as he has no honour.
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Old 02-08-2016, 23:06
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I still think that Tyler has feelings for Paige - more than he ever had for Piper. Paige you can't forgive though as she knows her sister "loves" Tyler. She just doesn't care as long as she's getting her own way. She "loves" Jack and is using Tyler to make herself feel better. I say "loves" as I don't think either of them really love Tyler or Jack and are infatuated more than anything else.
I'm inclined to agree with you.

If anything i'm judgine tyler more harshly for having encouraged Piper (though to be fair he did keep putting her off for months but she was very persistent) that he really iked/loved her and they could have a relationship if it was really Paige that he truly cared for and wanted but just didn't think he had a chance with.

Paige is clearly just using tyler as a substitute for Jack which really stinks as she knows it is hurting Piper (it doesn't matter if piper's feelings are reasonable with regards to whether she is actually with Tyler, they are real to her) and she also knows that tyler did really like her back when she was with Mark so might well be hoping it properly develops so will be hurt when she discards him.
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Old 02-08-2016, 23:08
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I feel sorry for Tyler because Piper lied to him and made him look bad in front of Brad and Terese and Paige is using him. He didn't do anything wrong and did his best for Piper but ended up looking like the bad guy for his trouble, Piper is better off with someone her own age and own level of maturity. Tyler is better with Paige if she would stop using him for her own self esteem and actually see that he's a good guy.
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Old 02-08-2016, 23:10
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Is it just me or has Paige been a huge flop of a character? She's unpopular with fans and she's been portrayed as selfish and immature.

I hope she leaves next year.
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Old 03-08-2016, 02:13
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I think Paige is one of the shows most memorable characters. She is played brilliantly and often screws her life up with out thinking.
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Old 03-08-2016, 02:17
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I still think that Tyler has feelings for Paige - more than he ever had for Piper. Paige you can't forgive though as she knows her sister "loves" Tyler. She just doesn't care as long as she's getting her own way. She "loves" Jack and is using Tyler to make herself feel better. I say "loves" as I don't think either of them really love Tyler or Jack and are infatuated more than anything else.
This is the thing Paige will never ever love Tyler the way he may love her. (Though this us neighbours and with the way she has been written, a 180 turn may not be far off). Tyler clearly does not love Piper no way he would do that to her twice. Why not go visit Imogen and sleep with her too, even worse Terese (i am sure he will have a crack soon, lol). Paige just proving what a S**t big sister she really is. Only cares for no 1.
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Old 03-08-2016, 02:22
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and actions like this are why I refuse to criticise Paige and Tyler for their actions
Piper is a teen who has her first real love and gets betrayed by him and her sister. So why would she not act out? Paige and Tyler are adults who know they are hurting her but keep on doing it. You can not use Piper as an excuse not to condem Paige the Brat and Ty the fimwitt.
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Old 03-08-2016, 02:33
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Piper is a teen who has her first real love and gets betrayed by him and her sister. So why would she not act out? Paige and Tyler are adults who know they are hurting her but keep on doing it. You can not use Piper as an excuse not to condem Paige the Brat and Ty the fimwitt.
This is what the 4th time she's done this, including to Tyler once before that nearly lost him his job so I cannot blame him, Paige ok she really should be more thoughtful
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Old 03-08-2016, 08:39
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I was thinking the same thing about Charlie, he seemed to appear for a visit then never left!

Jimmy is still a wee creep.
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Old 03-08-2016, 09:32
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Yet again super cop Mark is there to save Charlie. Much like Karl is always there to save lives at every call. It is seeming a comedy how Mark and Karl are the only ones in their profession that seem to do anything in the area! I do feel sorry for Piper in all of this, she has been hurt by both Tyler and Paige yet neither of them seem to care for her feelings in this. But then again she did drive him away in the first instance.
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:21
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It's the little things that are ruining my engagement with Neighbours at the moment. All I could think of in yesterday's episode is how much Paige must stink, in that outfit. She boxed twice in it, had sex and stayed out all night apparently sleeping in a garage and then served food to customers while wearing it.

The other day Piper had a detention with a cat and when she checked her phone it said 9.24 which seems like an odd time for detention. Someone else, perhaps Elly, checked her phone in the last week or two and the date was some time in May.

That and things like Charlie just suddenly going to school in Erinsborough and the Lassiters bid being done and dusted in one day are too annoying to overlook.

I think Paige and Tyler are good together and always wanted them to get together, even when she was with Mark. But this is not good. Yes they are both free agents, but Piper is her little sister! Piper was a stupid brat as far as Tyler was concerned and showed exactly why people had their reservations about her maturity but she doesn't deserve her sister to go and nab the bloke she likes for a frustration toy.

Can't get invested in things like Charlie being locked in the dumper because we all know he's going to be rescued, there's literally no drama to it.
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:44
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That Archie's a dangerous one. He was fully prepared to let Charlie die. I hope Steph tells his mother what happened. Good on Amy for taking the power away from her tormentors. I found it very amusing when that stuffy old woman with Jack thought it was disgraceful. Typical of some religious people. Terese is naïve if she thinks that Paul has really called a truce between them. Paul won't stop until he has got revenge on Terese in the form of taking Lassiter's from her. Piper didn't look too happy, obviously, when finding out that Paige and Tyler had slept together in the garage. Looks like things are really over between Piper and Tyler then.
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:39
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I see Paul is up to his old tricks - trying to get Gary to do some dirty work on Terese.
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:41
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Glad others are confused over Charlie now being enrolled at EH, I too thought the agreement was visits during school holidays etc. Or have Max and Phillippa agreed to a half the year in Erinsborough and half in Fiji type thing, but it was a blink and you miss it line?

The Archie thing is bizarre too. The family has cleared off to Dubai it seems, but left him in Australia. Can't say I blame them, he is vile. I am guessing his school must be a boarding school maybe?

The fuss being made over Amy and this cleaning storyline is laughable. I have seen more flesh by the pool! Are Australians really so uptight?
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:04
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Piper is a teen who has her first real love and gets betrayed by him and her sister. So why would she not act out? Paige and Tyler are adults who know they are hurting her but keep on doing it. You can not use Piper as an excuse not to condem Paige the Brat and Ty the fimwitt.
This.

As with all the other times Piper has had a spiteful reaction with potential damages she hasn't really thought through I do understand that it comes through her feeling hurt and betrayed but just think it shows up how young she is as adults have to stop and think and resist the impulse to lash out even when upset.

However, the difference this time, is even though i still think she should stop herself from taking revenge, i do think she is justified in her feelings. It's not like when she hated Courtney simply because she was going out with Tyler because firstly she*'d had no romantic relationship with Tyler at that stage, he'd made it clear he did,'t feel the same way so was a free agent and Courtney didn't know Piper at all so owed her absolutely nothing.

This time however, metaphorically the bed is hardly cold from Tyler having been saying he wanted to be with her, they had a connection, she made him a 'better man' blah, blah, blah. Basically that he felt the same as her and it wasn't just a casual fling but a serious relationship, so if he had any sensitivity he would know that moving on with anybody will hurt her and her sister would be excruciating. As for Paige, as I've said in other posts, as far as I'm concerned, going with a good friend, let alone a sister (or brothers if your male or he's gay) ex, especially recent ex who they are still in love with is just a moral no, no. It shows a complete disregard for their feelings

If it were a situation where you'd actually fallen in love with that person, you think they are 'the one' then perhaps it is not reasonable to throw away the future of your life's happiness just because your sibling can't get over somebody that does not, and will never feel the same way back. But be open about it, talk about it, explain that you're not doing it to hurt them but yo_'ve fallen in love with the same person they did, you also can't fall out of love, the person feels the same way about you and not about them so you feel that it isn't fair to have to give them up. But you are sorry, you won't rub their face in it, you will be sensitive to their feelings and maybe even leave commencing a full relationship for a few months to give them a chance to regroup if the relationship was very recent.

That isn't the case with Paige is it. She clearly isn't in love with tyler, she is using him as a '3andom' to scratch an itch. So if nothing is to come from it, why not just go down a club or Tinder and just find a random to do that with so it won't rub salt into your sisters wound.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:08
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Paige really doesn't care. I know if that were my sister I couldn't do that to her.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:50
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Glad others are confused over Charlie now being enrolled at EH, I too thought the agreement was visits during school holidays etc. Or have Max and Phillippa agreed to a half the year in Erinsborough and half in Fiji type thing, but it was a blink and you miss it line?

The Archie thing is bizarre too. The family has cleared off to Dubai it seems, but left him in Australia. Can't say I blame them, he is vile. I am guessing his school must be a boarding school maybe?

The fuss being made over Amy and this cleaning storyline is laughable. I have seen more flesh by the pool! Are Australians really so uptight?
Aaron did mention Archie when Tom Quill left, I am pretty sure he said he was staying with his aunt/other relatives so he could finish education in Aus.
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Old 03-08-2016, 13:19
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How I would like this to play out:

Paige and Tyler get together properly, preferably somewhere far away from Erinsborough.

Piper turns into an embittered pink haired Miss Havisham. The new Hilary Robinson if you like.

Jack gets to be a priest that miraculously doesn't throw it all away for a vagina.

Sorted.
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Old 03-08-2016, 14:40
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Paige really doesn't care. I know if that were my sister I couldn't do that to her.
I agree that she doesn't care but it's likely she doesn't feel any sisterly bond with Piper seeing as she's only known her for a year. It's no excuse but to her Piper is some relative she barely knows. She's so self absorbed she hasn't exactly made much of an effort with any of her siblings and she never mentions her adoptive brother anymore.
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Old 03-08-2016, 14:46
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I agree that she doesn't care but it's likely she doesn't feel any sisterly bond with Piper seeing as she's only known her for a year. It's no excuse but to her Piper is some relative she barely knows. She's so self absorbed she hasn't exactly made much of an effort with any of her siblings and she never mentions her adoptive brother anymore.
that's because the actor got cast in Home and Away
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