I think she probably is yes. But, in addition to that, I think there is some kind of medical issue. There have just been too many clues like her seeming drunk when she said she'd drunk nothin which led many of us to speculate that guy had drugged her. Now if that had been a one off, maybe discount it, but we've had several mentions of migraines now and that scene with Piper seemed to be shot from Elly's perspective, complete with muted sound and blurred vision. Stuff like that always leads somewhere in Soap.

Now, it might not explain her persecution of Piper, i suspect that is just her being horrible as she seemed okay when piper confronted her about the marks, not surprised/shocked that she had done it - bit I do think something is happening which makes her behaviour extreme like perhaps a brain tumor or Bi-Polar.

It makes sense to me too but i still find her reaction to learning the truth aggravating.

She was the one that decided to go to church to hear him preach and then told him that perhaps learning about his faith would help her to understand the decision he had made. Thus indicating that she had accepted his decision and wanted to move on with further understanding between them both so they could be friends. The bible classes were a logical extension of that - his also doing it to protect her is irrelevant really. She suggested spending time together, suggested learning about his faith (which he could hardly turn down as she is part of his Parish, he would have to help anybody that came to him), then takes it as an indication that they might have a future together when he does what she asked.

So his behaviour indicated that he enjoyed her company and cares about her. He has never denied that, he has been honest that he loves her but that he can't have a romantic/sexual relationship with her. No matter how nice he was to her, that hadn't changed and it was just her wishful thinking that convinced her otherwise and that is not his fault. He hasn't led her on, he's just spent time with her in the capacity of a Priest (teaching somebody that has asked to learn more about the Bible) and a friend - walking her home - which is a polite and considerate thing to do when it is well known there is a nutter targeting a neighbour that has already resulted in other people being hurt like Jimmy and Elly.

Even if he had led her on unintentionally, she should have taken it better once she learnt the truth - that it came from a place of caring for her, just not in the way she thought/hoped and That things are as they always have been since he choose the Church.

So, i'm afraid i stand by my initial take on it - that she has npbody to blame for being disappointed again but herself and again, selfishness wins out. She's dumped Tyler because she thought she had a chance of defrocking him again, she stated that she "doesn't care about Steph" just how it has affected her, that she was willing to give up boxing which apparently "means more than anything else" to her for jack when he didn't ask her to do any of those things for him and never said that he was regretting his decision and wanted to be with her. And indeed, Amy at least warned Paige that there was nothing to it but she just crowed about him "being a man as well as a Priest".

Nope, just don't like her.

Well said re Paige. More succinct than my post.

She is incapable of seeing the bigger picture, that he was in an impossible situation and just trying to protect her the only way he could.

But she's tunnel visioned.

Yes Paige, it is all "Church, Church, Church" with him - because it isn't just a job, it is a vocation - a calling which he is never off duty from. It requires his entire attention and devotion at all times and the vows are just as important as marriage vows. That's why Priests (and Mum's for that matter) are referred to as being "married to the Church".

Fact is, she doesn't understand and she never will. Even this Bible study was just so she could get to spend time with him so he'd see what he was missing - not any real interest.

Are Brad and Lauren Catholic? Even if they are Brad has been divorced twice so couldn't get married in the Catholic Church anyway so I think Susan's status as Ramsey Street's celebrant is safe for the moment.

Today's epi confirmed that the police are aware of the vow of silence about what is said in the confessional - we were even told that attempts to force priests to tell have been chucked out in court. SO the police won't view it as with holding information, just a priest abiding by his vows.

Who was the person of restricted growth?

I can't believe there's any undiagnosed medical problem, it's not possible. She has spent time in hospital in Dr Karl's care, he is an expert I all fields of medicine and would never have missed any symptoms.

That's so diplomatic. In case you or anyone is interested, he has a condition that restricts his growth. I think he's older that what he appears to be.

He is one of Terese's financial backers who lent her money to buy Lassister's Hotel. He pops up occasionally to check on his and The Boards investment. (Terese even mistook him for a child when she first met him in the lift.) His names is James Udagawa (not sure I'm spelling it right), and is related to the Udagawa's who used to be in the show in the 80s, I think. Someone else can help with the history.

Oh I remember Mr Udagawa - I'd missed he was a relation.

Mr Udagawa was a Japanese businessman who had dealings with the Daniels Corporation who was very into 'family values' and Paul got it into his head that he would get more business and investment if he was a married man and as Terri was in Prison by that stage (had probably killed herself my tben), he proposed to Gail as a marriage of convenience. Then of course they actually fell in love but couldn't tell each other as it would be breaking their deal - went on for months.

As he stated in the first episode James Udagawa is 23.

There is information about both Mr and Mrs Udagawa on the Perfect Blend

She's been popping a lot of pills lately and made a big thing about the migraine, but, as you say, Karl would have noticed anything untoward. There will probably be a revelation that she has some condition in a misguided attempt to make us like her!

The damage has been done!

But if it does end up being some illness then i am sure that the whole street will just forgive her straight away, including Piper. But there will still be a lot of fans that just wont, myself included.

Yes, Toady said so today. That;s good.

Thank you, yes, I jumped in too soon.

Me too - was just thinking out loud really.

I found the many different camera angles really distracting when Paige was confronting Jack. To me, it just didn't feel like a dramatic moment that that style of filming would add to. Of course it could just be that I don't care about Paige.

Thought the moment between Terese and Gary was quite sweet. I hope Gary will find a way of distancing himself from Paul somehow.

So Ellie has some medical condition that will explain her erratic, bitchy behaviour and once Dr Karl works his wonders she will transform in to a lovely angelic character that everyone will stop moaning about because she's finally 'nice' and that's what soaps are about right? 'Nice' characters??

Me too, it felt like a lot of separate scenes that they tried to join up.

I was a bit shocked at Mark putting surveillance in the confessional, isn't that illegal?

Yes it is.
It is illegal to put surveillance into Any private area (such as a home of office) without a Warrant which has to be approved by a Judge after the Police presenting evidence that they have a good chance ot catching a criminal by it and as his Boss told him, a Judge would never approve the bugging of a Confessional due to the sanctity of Confession and that Anything said in there is exempt from being disclosed to the Police under any circumstances.

Not only should he lose his job for this, he should face criminal charges.

But, he won't as no doubt he'll over heard something that leads to the guy being caught and everybody will say it was justified and keep quiet about it.

Paige needs to tell Jack to stay away from her if he won't be with her. He's messing with her head. It looks like Elly's on drugs judging from the way she was when Piper was talking to her. It looks like Piper heard with her own ears why Elly marked her work lower than Ben's. I'm guessing that Elly's time as a teacher at that school is soon going to come to an end. I'm a bit baffled as to why she blamed the recording in the rooms on a student of hers.

Please, someone make this Paige/Jack nonsense end! It is like an endless loop

Paige: I want you Jack
Jack: I want you Paige, but I want God more.
Paige: I will have a hissy fit and try and convince him of what he is missing
Jack: Nope, God still wins

And repeat...... My heart actually sinks when these two come on screen now.

The Piper v Elly feud. I guess in a way it is good they are showing teachers can be like that and don't always treat all students fairly, can hold grudges etc. No doubt they will find some sort of common ground and become friends in true Neighbours fashion.

I love that James Udagawa is a nod to Neighbours history for us long term viewers who will remember the days of The Robinson Corporation. Has James had a scene with Paul yet? The original Mr Udagawa was the reason Paul and Gail married.

Jack was pretty much staying away from her until she decided to go and listen to one of his sermons, then went into the confessional and then declared that she wanted to learn more about the Bible so she could understand his calling.

Yes, he suggested the formal, one to one Bible lessons as a way of keeping an eye on her when he believed she was in danger but the initial reconnection came from her, not him.

How about he tells her to stay away from his place of work (also a Church) as it is not fair on him to have the constant temptation? But of course he won't do that as Churches need to be open and welcoming to anyone that wishes to come - no matter what their motives and let's face it, Paige's are not holy.

Shall i ask another question to those that think Jack has been unfair to Paige over the last week? Should he have left her unprotected if she was the target of some madman? Given that he couldn't tell anybody else about it as he learnt of the threat in the confessional, just what else was he supposed to do to keep her safe but keep an eye on her, himself?

And again, he never said anything to her to indicate that he wanted to leave the church and be with her properly - not anything. She has read that into his actions with no real cause - which i understand as when you are in love with someone, you will seize on anything which could indicate they feel the same way but it is her issue, not his.

All just my opinion of it of course.

Jack bares some of the responsibility because he knew his motivations could be misinterpreted by Paige. All he had to do was remind her that the bible sessions and walking her home didn't mean anything more than him trying to teach her and being chivalrous. I think his own feelings slightly clouded his judgement, which stopped him from seeing the way she looked at him.

When Paige asked about learning about the bible, I do believe she wanted to try to be friends with him by understanding his faith, but the more time he spent with her outside of the sessions, going out of his way to be her personal security guard, it makes sense that Paige would mis-read into his actions and behaviour. I think her outburst was justified. I think Jack should have been more open (not about the stalker stuff), all of this could have been avoided.

Sorry if this has been done before, but I haven't read the whole thread and don't come on this forum very often.

I'm sure I haven't missed an episode, but when and how was it decided that Charlie would suddenly be living full time with Steph? It just seemed to happen.

Secondly, are Jack and Paige ever going to get together? I assumed that they were going to be a couple, given how they are portrayed in the opening credits, but it has been going on so long now that I'm starting to wonder if it will ever happen. Same old, same old, every few episodes at the moment.