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Old 10-10-2016, 13:28
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Absolutely right. I find it very frustrating that when these events are on, the station stops all normal news/other-sports coverage and the inane commentary, (complete with idiotic references to players showing such as bravery), just goes on and on; (possibly the only thing worse is all the coverage of the Olympics, which I'd suggest is, like golf, a minority interest). It must be that certain key players at the station have themselves an all-consuming interest in the game and force their passion onto the rest of us. Surely golf is a terribly boring game to play and sleep-inducing to watch: but to LISTEN to it? - where on earth is the sanity in that concept?
You IMHO could say the same about VIRTUALLY ANY sport on the radio.., and it must be said that certain individuals on this site (not referring to yourself) seem more interested in naming EVERY SINGLE commentator at every single match rather than the sport itself.
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Old 10-10-2016, 15:02
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Do I detect that Nicky is non too pleased with the Monday Morning Breakfast Club. Several times now he has paid glowing tributes to it...far more than it would normally merit and it appears to be praise dripped in sarcasm.

If he does feel that way, he is right! This morning was a selection of clips and two pleasant enough pundits saying what has been said several times about the weekend footie and will doubtless be said again at seven tonight. It really is a waste of fiteen minutes. I can see they are trying to make it more exciting by playing clips from the weekend (which we have heard several times before) and, as much as I love the sport on Five Live, it all feels as if they have little else to do and so let's do this. This idea of fifteen minutes of football chat removed from the presenters has the feel of a very good idea at the planning stage that doesn't quite sit right on the radio.
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Old 10-10-2016, 17:27
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Quite true DUHO - if it wasn't on and football was someone else would be moaning (as they usually do)

"Too much football etc - what about the minor sports"

Of course in the Olympics we also get the "aren't these athletes so much better than footballers - they deserve more coverage etc"

Then apart from the obvious big names those athletes are never heard or thought of again until the next big event.

BTW I do agree the golf doesn't sound great on the radio - bit like tennis unless they are concentrating on one match.

I understand from another thread 5live had the England v Malta game over the Super League Grand final on - what was the reaction to that?
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Old 10-10-2016, 17:47
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Do I detect that Nicky is non too pleased with the Monday Morning Breakfast Club. Several times now he has paid glowing tributes to it...far more than it would normally merit and it appears to be praise dripped in sarcasm.

If he does feel that way, he is right! This morning was a selection of clips and two pleasant enough pundits saying what has been said several times about the weekend footie and will doubtless be said again at seven tonight. It really is a waste of fiteen minutes. I can see they are trying to make it more exciting by playing clips from the weekend (which we have heard several times before) and, as much as I love the sport on Five Live, it all feels as if they have little else to do and so let's do this. This idea of fifteen minutes of football chat removed from the presenters has the feel of a very good idea at the planning stage that doesn't quite sit right on the radio.
Nicky is probably miffed because during those 15 mins he is reading Twitter and seeing all the comments about what's on LBC or Radio 4 Today, and thinking people who want a review of the Weekend Football are probably listening to TalkSport.

Incidentally it was nice to see Rachel Burden presenting BBC Breakfast at the weekend. She looks a TV natural.
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Old 10-10-2016, 20:15
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Don't think the "Monday morning club" works simple as. a 12/13 minute slot with (all due respects) experts who probably aren't even household names in their own households is NOT riveting radio. And yet again it was about Rooney this morning as it was when I was listening yesterday lunchtime and again whilst driving home tonight.......
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Old 10-10-2016, 21:09
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Don't think the "Monday morning club" works simple as. a 12/13 minute slot with (all due respects) experts who probably aren't even household names in their own households is NOT riveting radio. And yet again it was about Rooney this morning as it was when I was listening yesterday lunchtime and again whilst driving home tonight.......
I agree with the comments about this section of Breakfast. It simply doesn't work and I really don't see any need for it.
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Old 10-10-2016, 21:20
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Don't think the "Monday morning club" works simple as. a 12/13 minute slot with (all due respects) experts who probably aren't even household names in their own households is NOT riveting radio. And yet again it was about Rooney this morning as it was when I was listening yesterday lunchtime and again whilst driving home tonight.......
Didn't hear this but its its got quite negitive comments....if it was a proper 15 mins on SPORT in general rather than just football do you think it would work
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Old 10-10-2016, 21:40
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Didn't hear this but its its got quite negitive comments....if it was a proper 15 mins on SPORT in general rather than just football do you think it would work
I don't think there should be any 15 minute sports section on the weekday breakfast show but the station is obviously being dumbed down still further. And lets be honest during the football season a 15 minute sport section will mean 14 minutes 59 seconds on football and the other dozen or sports covered in the one second before 8am..

I wonder whether the bromance of Reilly and Campbell is on the rocks as they seem very ill at ease together these days, heard Reiily continually refer to Campbell as Nicholas and Campbell calls Reilly Georgie.. And there certainly seems to be a certain amount of needle
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Old 11-10-2016, 03:41
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I understand from another thread 5live had the England v Malta game over the Super League Grand final on - what was the reaction to that?
They had the second half of the RL on 5Live after England had finished. I don't think 5Live would put an England international on Sports Extra apart from exceptional circumstances.

It peaked at 6m (ish) on ITV so shows there's still interest. It's a reasonable decision and putting England on SE would generate much more negative publicity than the RL Final ultimately.

Even discounting the weak opponents, it also had the story of the first game for Southgate & the aftermath of Big Sam which has been a big story over the past few weeks.
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Old 11-10-2016, 09:33
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I see they had the Rooney debate on with the media guys trying to defend Rooney career which is fair enough as he is the record scorer etc but the issue is I think so many people are just fed up with him and the other England players not performing when it really counts. so there will always be a fairly negative reaction from the footballing public and beyond.

Plus to some Rooney might not be the most appealing person personality wise (and earns an awful lot of money which people resent)

He's no Beckham with all the positive PR image he has..
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Old 11-10-2016, 09:50
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I see they had the Rooney debate on with the media guys trying to defend Rooney career which is fair enough as he is the record scorer etc but the issue is I think so many people are just fed up with him and the other England players not performing when it really counts. so there will always be a fairly negative reaction from the footballing public and beyond.

Plus to some Rooney might not be the most appealing person personality wise (and earns an awful lot of money which people resent)
fed up with the whole "Rooney debate"
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Old 11-10-2016, 12:41
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I know Five Live is a news and sport station, but is Wayne Rooney's non-selection really worthy of an hour long phone in?
There must have been other topics to discuss, though to be honest, I couldn't name one!
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Old 12-10-2016, 05:14
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Away from the US election & Haiti it's a fairly slow news time recently

The BBC News top story in the UK right now is that admissions into hopsitals due to allergies is up 33%. So yeh, not really radio phone in material (unless you do a wacky local radio thing)

They have to mix it up, it might appear dull but not to everyone
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Old 12-10-2016, 09:17
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Who is this dreadful Emma person who has taken over the morning/midday slot?
She is truly awful
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Old 12-10-2016, 16:20
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Why has Radio 5live apparently abandoned cricket commentary from England in Bangladesh to Talk Sport.

It was bad enough with football commentary, but at least there is enough to avoid Talk Sport. Surely cricket fans deserve the kind of quality commentary only available from the BBC.
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Old 12-10-2016, 16:40
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They haven't, but they didn't get the rights on time. At leas they're honest about not being in Bangladesh. TMS will be there for the tests.
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Old 12-10-2016, 16:55
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They haven't, but they didn't get the rights on time. At leas they're honest about not being in Bangladesh. TMS will be there for the tests.
That's a relief. I just can't get over how amateurish the commentary and general presentation is.

The worst thing of all is the insistence on playing adverts between overs. Why?
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Old 12-10-2016, 17:02
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Each to their own Mall. I for one am really glad that talkSPORT 2 are providing commentary on the Bangladesh v England ODI series, picking up the rights at short notice after it emerged the BBC weren't able to provide commentary on it for whatever reason (there have been conflicting reports).

To provide the opposite view, I think the team they have used, including Steve Harmison and Test Match Special regular Mike Selvey, has been really strong. I've enjoyed listening to their coverage in the absence of TMS.

As for the adverts, they are a commercial radio station, how else do you expect them to earn their keep? I haven't found them too intrusive myself, but then am a regular listener to the station. Even for TMS devotees, it's not the end of the world, this series is only a one-off.
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Old 12-10-2016, 20:34
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As for the adverts, they are a commercial radio station, how else do you expect them to earn their keep? I haven't found them too intrusive myself, but then am a regular listener to the station. Even for TMS devotees, it's not the end of the world, this series is only a one-off.
I understand that commercial stations need adverts to pay their way, obviously.

However, given that Talk Sport 2 is part of a group of stations it wouldn't be unreasonable for enough ads to be broadcast during other programmes, particularly in a phone in format which has natural breaks, to leave live events uninterrupted.

It's interesting they can leave football untouched, although I suppose we could have ads whilst players are lining up waiting for a corner to be taken, or perhaps when a physio is on the field treating an injured player
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Old 12-10-2016, 20:46
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We had one short commercial at the end of many (but not every) overs, not dissimilar to how they approach adverts on Sky Sports/Channel 4's cricket coverage. They would return back to the cricket in time for the first ball of the next over. If they were not going to do that, then where would they fit their commercials in? During drinks breaks and at the break between innings only? I think the way talkSPORT 2 approached inserting commercials was fine. We didn't miss any action as far as I heard, as you might if you broke away from a football or rugby game while the match was in progress. I thought talkSPORT 2 did a fine job with the Bangladesh v England ODI series, as they did with the World Twenty20, IPL and T20 Blast earlier in the year.
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Old 14-10-2016, 21:32
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As 5Live hasn't had a Listeners POV show for the past 2 decades, it's been left to Radio 4 Feedback to provide this service.

Today Controller Jonathan Wall was on answering a wide array of Listener's questions.
The final section here, starts around 18 min.

http://bbc.in/2dZ0WT1

Apparently he considers Sarah Brett "a discovery".

You can hear why he is in BBC Management, he has the BBCspeak down pat.

Sadly, I don't see much prospect of the station improving under his decision making.
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Old 14-10-2016, 21:51
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I used to look forwards to the Friday night show when they looked forwards to the weekend's football action. However this new "social" show is lightweight and nothing like as good.
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Old 14-10-2016, 22:06
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I am not interested in the one-day cricket, but at least it is on the radio despite the BBC not getting the rights for those who are and don't have Sky Sports.

There are two live football matches 5 Live could have broadcast. If one was in the Premier League it would have been broadcast.. Alternatively, they could be promoting Olympic sports they don't talk about now the Olympics are over.

Emma Barnett has been criticised on here. Well I caught the final half-hour of her show when she was talking to a man whose elderly mother had been overcharged by thousands of pounds by a disreputable company for a door handle. She ggave him space to tell his story and he did it justice.

The Republican woman who Anna Foster interviewed before 5 sounded out of her depth. She wanted to control the interview but Anna Fostter kept tryin to get her to stick to the questions.
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Old 15-10-2016, 00:30
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I heard Radio 5's station controller on Feedback today saying all his presenters are wonderful & denying they interrupt people & interject phone ins with their personal comments etc.

Nihal & Nicky C came in for some criticism from the listeners !
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Old 15-10-2016, 20:06
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Am I mistaken or didn't Five Live Science used to be on a Saturday morning as opposed to Sunday?
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