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Old 09-06-2016, 07:08
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Not surprised that Peter wants to wind down now that he's 70. He's been the serious journalistic voice of 5Live since it started. He deserves his time off but it will be a sad day when he finally goes for good.
As for Barnett and Brett, I find it difficult to recognise one young bright female voice from the other. Lightweights both, but all broadcasters have to start somewhere and gain experience, I suppose. But Nihal? Just no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no....pleeease!
Great news about Peter Allen - I am surprised he stuck the misery slot for so long. Given the right stories he is still head and shoulders above any one else on the station.

You will recognise Sarah Brett once heard - her voice really does grate. It appears that 5 Live really have not learned from the Fiasco in the afternoon, and have missed the chance to reconsider it following Dan Walkers move.
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Old 09-06-2016, 14:57
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I agree that afternoons on 5Live need a serious re-think. Some of the content is OK (e.g. TV reviews and star interviews, depending on the 'star'), but other items could easily be dropped without any tears being shed.

Current female presenters are often too similar to be able to tell the difference between them. They need someone like Jane Garvey used to be to add some individuality.

The males tried out in the afternoon slot since Dan Walker left have generally been dire!

While they're at it, they should start to wind down the Friday afternoon movie programme, which has become a vehicle for Kermode. It needs to get over itself. It's a review of movies, for God's sake, not a piece of high culture! Mayo's association with it has tarnished his previous reputation as an excellent populist broadcaster.
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Old 09-06-2016, 16:50
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Anna Foster has a disconcerting microphone technique. She has her mouth so close to the microphone it's as though she wants to it eat.
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Old 09-06-2016, 18:33
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Anna Foster has a disconcerting microphone technique. She has her mouth so close to the microphone it's as though she wants to it eat.
Or snog it!
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Old 09-06-2016, 18:41
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Old 09-06-2016, 20:41
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How are Radio Wales/Ulster going to handle hand overs to 5 live as looks like the stations will still have their own presenting team?
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Old 10-06-2016, 15:56
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A new 5live blog http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/abouttheb...3-f85bb7092cd8

Shame its not on the actual 5live blog!
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Old 10-06-2016, 17:14
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Peter Allen to limit shows to weekends where he will team back up with Jane Garvey, Emma Barnett to take over his daily slot and Nihal will be the new afternoon co-host with Sarah Brett. Details here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...adio_and_music
I'm very sad Peter will be giving up weekdays, although I'm not surprised given the depressing / gloomy VD like list of subjects he has to discuss.

When he goes I'll be no longer listening in the mornings at all.

Emma Barnett ? & Nihal ? can Radio 5 really not do any better ? !!

I suppose they're the only ones prepared to decamp to Salford .

On the plus side, I'll look forwards to listening to Peter & Jane at the weekends . Their weekday programmes were the best of the lot & show how far R5 has sunk since !
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Old 10-06-2016, 17:28
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I like Emma Barnett as a presenter so I think that's a good move, don't mind Nihal but think they could have done better.
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Old 10-06-2016, 17:41
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As for Barnett and Brett, I find it difficult to recognise one young bright female voice from the other. Lightweights both, but all broadcasters have to start somewhere and gain experience, I suppose. But Nihal? Just no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no....pleeease!
Emma Barnett already has enough experience. She did about 3 years of phone-ins at LBC on Sunday afternoons, But it seems she wasn't too popular over there. She can be patronising towards callers. She's another one with a voice that gets croaky at times. I can't see the morning misery slot helping her career unless it gets a total revamp.
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Old 10-06-2016, 18:36
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Barnett has done a decent job on the numbskull sunday evening clickbait show. She has a voice that conveys authority and sounds able of thinking quickly. Two characteristics palpably missing from the afternoon presenter.
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Old 10-06-2016, 21:16
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Brett sounds a lot older than Barnett. I don't agree with people who say they sound similar.
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Old 10-06-2016, 21:39
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Since when was it in 5 Live Sports Exttra's remit to broadcast live funerals? Funerals are not sport, live or otherwise, even if they are the funerals of people widely regarded as sports legends.

If there was an ongoing breaking news story such as a terrorist attack or a political revolution somewhere it would not be on 5 Live Sports Extra because of football on 5 Live. The terrorist attacks on Paris last November weren't covered until England's football match had finished, but they started before half-time.
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Old 10-06-2016, 23:45
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Since when was it in 5 Live Sports Exttra's remit to broadcast live funerals? Funerals are not sport, live or otherwise, even if they are the funerals of people widely regarded as sports legends.

If there was an ongoing breaking news story such as a terrorist attack or a political revolution somewhere it would not be on 5 Live Sports Extra because of football on 5 Live. The terrorist attacks on Paris last November weren't covered until England's football match had finished, but they started before half-time.
Just about as bad is Stephen Nolan devoting the whole of his programme to talking about the funeral !
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Old 11-06-2016, 01:13
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Just about as bad is Stephen Nolan devoting the whole of his programme to talking about the funeral !
Please make it stop.
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Old 12-06-2016, 18:17
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After the terrorist attacks in Paris last November, when 5 Live moved sports coverage to 5 Live Sports Extra, I commented:
It seems a good decision, until one considers what sport was due to be broadcast. If a match between the top 2 Premier League clubs was due to kick off at 12:45, would that be on Sports Extra?
This morning there was a terrorist (not militant) attack in Florida. The story has been developing throughout the day. 5 Live has covered it in the news bulletins, but did not cancel commentary on matches that would still have been broadcast on national radio, and are on free television channels to keep listeners updated. Extra news coverage is bbeing scheduled to fit around the football, which the station clearly considers more important. This is what would have happened after the terrorist attack on Paris if Manchester United had been playing Liverpool at 12:45 on the Saturday when the sports coverage was moved.
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Old 12-06-2016, 18:37
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This morning there was a terrorist (not militant) attack in Florida. The story has been developing throughout the day. 5 Live has covered it in the news bulletins, but did not cancel commentary on matches that would still have been broadcast on national radio, and are on free television channels to keep listeners updated. Extra news coverage is being scheduled to fit around the football, which the station clearly considers more important. This is what would have happened after the terrorist attack on Paris if Manchester United had been playing Liverpool at 12:45 on the Saturday when the sports coverage was moved.
Tragic though it may be, there is no reason to cancel existing schedules for an incident which took place in America and does not have any domestic angle. And please don't compare it with 9/11 or related incidents, that's a whole different scenario.
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Old 12-06-2016, 21:12
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The point is that 5 Live was keen to publicise the schedule changes made after the terrorist attacks in Paris, but as I pointed out at the time, some sport is considered more important than terrorist attacks against France. I have been proved right today. If the only live sport had been equivalent to the live sport on the Saturday after the Paris shootings, the sport would have been moved to 5 Live Sports Extra and coverage of the terrorist attack in Florida would havve been broadcast on 5 Live. The station would have been keen to highlight that decision.
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Old 12-06-2016, 21:30
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The Euros especially the NI game have rightly taken precedence. The news bulletins did not bring anything new by the time of the football and it was in America. If was a London or Paris attack then that's a different matter
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Old 13-06-2016, 06:56
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I think the point WNS_195 is making (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that the rules 5Live seem to work to are different depending on the size of the sports event to be moved-- which doesn't make the station very consistent. I'm also not entirely sure that it being in America is any different to it being in France. are we now saying that a news story is only a big one if its ether close to us or if Brits are involved? I think I saw a sketch once from I think 'Not the 9 Oclock news' which had a report of some kind of tragidy with multiple deaths and ended with the reporter saying something like 'but don't worry, none of them were British'.
I don't necesarily agree that 5Live should have binned the schedule though by 2 PM there wasn't much new info coming out and 5Live do get stick on hear for over-doing news stories of this nature so I think they made the right call this time. I can see the point WNS_195 was making though.
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Old 13-06-2016, 08:14
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The thing is that there are mass shootings every day in America and if 5Live were to cover all of these in great depth there would be no time for any sport. The only aspects which make this story significant from the other 170 or so mass shootings which have happened in America this year are the alleged terrorist/homophobic motives of the suspect and the sheer number of people killed.

As has been said- this is a tragedy and deserves news coverage but there is no domestic angle and with a big football tournament happening, it makes no sense to have rolling news coverage of something which is likely to have slow updates throughout the day when 5Live could be broadcasting live football commentaries as advertised.
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Old 13-06-2016, 13:32
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A brief clip and interview with Pienaar's Politics Sunday show on Daily Politics today, and yes, it is broadcast from London.

I would say a fair proportion of shows are these days, it just never gets mentioned, unless by accident.

I see Campbell has joined the merry throng in France for the Euros. Why exactly? Just to present Breakfast? So his hotel bills and expenses will be paid for when he is not a Sport contributor. I thought 5Live were trying to cut costs and operate on a smaller budget?
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Old 13-06-2016, 13:45
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Steve is right about the point I am making about 5 Live's news coverage. It isn't anything to do with where the stories took place. If there wasn't any major sport after the Orlando terrorist attack, but there was a lot of major sport after the Paris terrorist attacks, the Orlando terrorist attack would have received the most coverage.

There is money to send presenters to France but not money to send commentators to all
matches. I would rather it was the other way round.
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Old 13-06-2016, 20:09
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A brief clip and interview with Pienaar's Politics Sunday show on Daily Politics today, and yes, it is broadcast from London.

I would say a fair proportion of shows are these days, it just never gets mentioned, unless by accident.

I see Campbell has joined the merry throng in France for the Euros. Why exactly? Just to present Breakfast? So his hotel bills and expenses will be paid for when he is not a Sport contributor. I thought 5Live were trying to cut costs and operate on a smaller budget?
SPOT ON about Campbell and Reilly having a jolly at our expense in France and you can bet your last pound they will be in Rio ADDING NOTHING TO THE OCCASION
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Old 13-06-2016, 21:03
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George Riley's a sports reporter so should be there. Nicky does the French stories and Clare does the rest.

Can't see a problem
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