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Old 16-06-2016, 23:51
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They're making up for the lack of daytime coverage of the murder of the MP by going massively overboard tonight.
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Old 17-06-2016, 00:18
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I believe I am right in saying that at least two women are brutally murdered each week in Britain. Seems your MPs life is much more important than the average Joe.
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Old 17-06-2016, 00:23
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'She was shot in the face and stabbed many,many times'.

Dignified as ever Mr Nolan.
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Old 17-06-2016, 06:37
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Seems your MPs life is much more important than :
Of course a death like this of somebody fairly high profile and in a public position is going to attract more headlines than the average domestic or something...

Not sure anyone can grumble too much that this story is the main headline (for now anyway)

Will they have a 7 hour long tribute like they have done for some of the "celebs" who has died...
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Old 17-06-2016, 08:39
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Very poor yesterday afternoon in terms of reacting to the MP's death. I appreciate no evening Drive programme was scheduled and there may only have been a skeleton staff on shift, but to continue with a relayed commentary of Radio Ulster seems the wrong decision to me. I turned over to R4 and have to say the news was excellently handled by the PM Programme.
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Old 17-06-2016, 20:43
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That seems fair enough, except what happens with people dealing with off air travel...especially when you don't know where any of our teams will be in the latter stages (probably back home, but let's hope for the best!) Who does all the planning, hotel booking, technical bookings, Then there's the demand on staff at key times...these people are serving multiple outlets. Everybody from Five Live, Radio Four, World Service, BBC 1, BBC News Channel, BBC World. And then there's online, the BBC iplayer and goodness knows what else. Who organises all these things, and works the studios? And you assume their skills are transferable, one man's radio news reporter may not be able to hack it as a presenter on the telly. And your radio news reporter may not be able to go out for the radio and operate the equipment. And you also assume that for the entire tournament, and a few days before, nobody gets a day off and each person is prepared to work absolutely every working hour.

And finally, given the BBC is microscopically scrutinized by everyone from the Daily Mail to Exchange and Mart...don't you think they may well have considered every possible option to stop people from finishing the "BBC staff on Euro jolly..." headline they will have already written before the tournament starts.

You appear to be advocating a working environment that would get you before a House of Commons select committee.
You make decent points and suppose the only way to settle the numbers quota would be to see the complete list, see which network they are on and take it from there..
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Old 17-06-2016, 21:13
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And you also assume that for the entire tournament, and a few days before, nobody gets a day off and each person is prepared to work absolutely every working hour.
During events like the Olympics, major Football tournaments, Wimbledon etc. that is most probably the case. People get time off before and after such events but expect to work solidly throughout covering it. There will be time off periods on days when no play occurs and your reports back home have finished, and at Olympics when the events you're covering are resting between rounds. But generally it's all go, that's what you sign up for. The privilege of being there means you work! .......Unless you're only working on a single daily programme, eg Breakfast, so Campbell and Reilly will have plenty of time off.

Just seen an astonishing retweet by Jonathan Wall, proving he doesn't listen to his own presenters. A NI Football flag with pic of Nolan and a large plate of food. Frankly, he's uber sensitive about his weight, and you'd think the Programme Controller who hires him would know!
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Old 17-06-2016, 21:37
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I wouldn't say Noilan is sensitive about his weight, he spends most if his on air time boasting about it
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Old 17-06-2016, 21:40
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During events like the Olympics, major Football tournaments, Wimbledon etc. that is most probably the case. People get time off before and after such events but expect to work solidly throughout covering it. There will be time off periods on days when no play occurs and your reports back home have finished, and at Olympics when the events you're covering are resting between rounds. But generally it's all go, that's what you sign up for. The privilege of being there means you work! .......Unless you're only working on a single daily programme, eg Breakfast, so Campbell and Reilly will have plenty of time off.

Just seen an astonishing retweet by Jonathan Wall, proving he doesn't listen to his own presenters. A NI Football flag with pic of Nolan and a large plate of food. Frankly, he's uber sensitive about his weight, and you'd think the Programme Controller who hires him would know!
Nolans weight is part of a joke led my him!
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Old 17-06-2016, 21:41
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During events like the Olympics, major Football tournaments, Wimbledon etc. that is most probably the case. People get time off before and after such events but expect to work solidly throughout covering it. There will be time off periods on days when no play occurs and your reports back home have finished, and at Olympics when the events you're covering are resting between rounds. But generally it's all go, that's what you sign up for. The privilege of being there means you work! .......Unless you're only working on a single daily programme, eg Breakfast, so Campbell and Reilly will have plenty of time off.

Just seen an astonishing retweet by Jonathan Wall, proving he doesn't listen to his own presenters. A NI Football flag with pic of Nolan and a large plate of food. Frankly, he's uber sensitive about his weight, and you'd think the Programme Controller who hires him would know!
I tend to alternate between 5live radio 4 and to a lesser extent absolute 80s driving to work in a morning but on the occasions ive heard Campbell prattle on he has made little attempt to disguise the fact he is out there at the licence payers expense " been in this café" been near to this centre... to me he makes every attempt to rub our noses in things
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Old 18-06-2016, 11:00
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Does Nicky Campbell read these forums I wonder & so knows to wind up everyone that criticizes him?

I imagine he knows full well!
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Old 18-06-2016, 13:38
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Tell you what if this thread activity is a reflection of R5 listening figures then they are in deep trouble.
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Old 18-06-2016, 13:40
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Tell you what if this thread activity is a reflection of R5 listening figures then they are in deep trouble.
But it isn't this is just a few obsessives
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Old 18-06-2016, 14:02
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5 Live's coverage of the murder of Jo Cox MP has been minimal. The press conference where her death was announced wasn't even broadcast.
Five Live Producer: Jo Cox is Dead. Switch back to Manchester. Do it Now.

Second Five Live Producer: "Don't be Ridiculous. That is impossible! Croatia have just hit the post. Maybe we could mention the (Emerging) Political Assassination of the 21st Century at half time? "


Five Live is not fit for purpose. It has the judgement and priorities of an Imbecile. Shut it down. Now.

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Old 18-06-2016, 14:18
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Does Nicky Campbell read these forums I wonder & so knows to wind up everyone that criticizes him?

I imagine he knows full well!
He searches Twitter for his name, so he possibly does!
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Old 18-06-2016, 14:53
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Tell you what if this thread activity is a reflection of R5 listening figures then they are in deep trouble.
Not really. This thread contains only posts about 5Live. The other long running threads on LBC/TalkSport are essentially chat threads.
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Old 18-06-2016, 14:59
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Five Live Producer: Jo Cox is Dead. Switch back to Manchester. Do it Now.

Second Five Live Producer: "Don't be Ridiculous. That is impossible! Croatia have just hit the post. Maybe we could mention the (Emerging) Political Assassination of the 21st Century at half time? "


Five Live is not fit for purpose. It has the judgement and priorities of an Imbecile. Shut it down. Now.

And yet the Producer will often choose to go live to an irrelevant (to us in UK) US press conference for an interminable length of time when paper reviewers/TV critics are sitting waiting to speak when they've been paid to do so, but are left with 10 mins. Absurd!
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Old 18-06-2016, 15:05
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I wouldn't say Noilan is sensitive about his weight, he spends most if his on air time boasting about it
Nolans weight is part of a joke led my him!
Through bitter tears, no doubt! The flag reminded me of the time he told a story complaining of being at an airport in NI having breakfast and a lady came up to his table and lifted his plate up saying he shouldn't be having that! He was Fuming.
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Old 18-06-2016, 16:05
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I wouldn't say Noilan is sensitive about his weight, he spends most if his on air time boasting about it
Did you ever hear the time the vile fat lump went on and on about should he eat the Mars bar in his hotel room minibar? Jesus H Christ it was enough to make you want to start self harming.
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Old 18-06-2016, 16:07
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And yet the Producer will often choose to go live to an irrelevant (to us in UK) US press conference for an interminable length of time when paper reviewers/TV critics are sitting waiting to speak when they've been paid to do so, but are left with 10 mins. Absurd!
This happens all the time. They often cut away to do some 'live' interview with a footballer or football manager. Quite why they don't record it then just play it out when convenient is beyond me. Talksport are no better, in fact worse than the BBC at this.
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Old 18-06-2016, 17:08
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And yet the Producer will often choose to go live to an irrelevant (to us in UK) US press conference for an interminable length of time when paper reviewers/TV critics are sitting waiting to speak when they've been paid to do so, but are left with 10 mins. Absurd!
Because they seem to be scared witless that another source will beat them to it by a nano second, and don't seem to realise that it would make FAR better radio if they took a couple of minutes to record it and edit it!
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Old 19-06-2016, 12:52
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Did anyone hear the 10pm sports news bulletin last night?

The female reporter started off badly, coughed twice loudly right into the mic to try to break the disaster, but it got worse, as she seemed to be struggling to breath/having a panic attack.... I don't know if she got sudden stage fright, or had been running up stairs (that's what callers usually say on phone-ins when breathless through nerves)?

It was very strange, she just stopped mid sentence as nothing could be understood properly anyway....then Nolan just began his show with no word about what had just occurred. I listened at 10.30 and the Sports reporter seemed fine and recovered from whatever was ailing her.

Sometimes 5Live does sound like amateur hour, especially when the female sports reporter does the bulletin who sounds like a 9 year old sucking a sweet.
How do these people get on air? It doesn't matter what accent you've got, used to be to become a radio broadcaster a clear speaking voice was essential. No longer. Not on the BBC.
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Old 19-06-2016, 13:14
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Did anyone hear the 10pm sports news bulletin last night?

The female reporter started off badly, coughed twice loudly right into the mic to try to break the disaster, but it got worse, as she seemed to be struggling to breath/having a panic attack.... I don't know if she got sudden stage fright, or had been running up stairs (that's what callers usually say on phone-ins when breathless through nerves)?
I did hear it! And was, like you, concerned about her.
And I may be able to answer your question!

After getting a load of texts asking about her, Stephen Nolan got the reporter back on air. She said she was now fine. What had happened is that a technical problem had caused her to run up and down a flight of stairs just seconds before speaking on air (your instincts are good La Rhumba ).
She said she has realised that she is "not very fit" .
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Old 19-06-2016, 13:39
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I did hear it! And was, like you, concerned about her.
And I may be able to answer your question!

After getting a load of texts asking about her, Stephen Nolan got the reporter back on air. She said she was now fine. What had happened is that a technical problem had caused her to run up and down a flight of stairs just seconds before speaking on air (your instincts are good La Rhumba ).
She said she has realised that she is "not very fit" .
Thanks for the update!
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Old 20-06-2016, 11:25
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I wonder if we are being a touch harsh about the decision to stay with the football rather move the game to sports extra, and go into full news mode. I suspect staying with the football bought them vital time to get people into place to mount the later coverage. It would have sounded far worse if they had ditched the football and then had broadcast essentially the same few sentences time and again. I saw some of the news channel coverage and they we clutching at any straw possible to keep going, until they had people in place and could do it properly.

Also, I would bet my house on it that people in Five Live do read this strand. Anything that is titled "BBC Five Live General Chit Chat" is bound to attract their attention. I suspect they will dismiss us, as stated earlier, as "obsessives" and probably laugh at what we write. In many ways, that's what they should do...we are just people with views who listen a lot. I refute that we are obsessives, but we are interested parties.

In truth, we must only a be a tiny tiny sample of opinion. This morning Nicky Campbell was driving me to distraction with his comments and inane French sayings. I know I'm not alone in thinking the lad needs a different challenge elsewhere on the schedule. However, I suspect I am by far in the minority as he has been on at breakfast time for years and if this strand represented any kind of widespread opinion, they would surely have moved him long ago. We are a group with opinions and I suspect they are read, but not acted upon.

I like to discuss and debate with fellow Five Live listeners. But the vast majority of listeners switch on, enjoy and switch off again They probably couldn't name most of the presenters and they are none the worse for that. Five Live is a service that often transcends its presenters. Although we all have our views, and I bet everyone of us would do things differently from each other, the truth is the vast majority want the news, the sport and a good discussion. Once they have switched off, they never give Five Live a second thought and we never hear from them.
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