It occurred to me today that maybe Kate Oates has been saving her best work for Corrie. Lately, Emmerdale has taken a bit of a dip, and even though there are some good storylines at the moment, and the spoilers for June etc look good, It's not up to the same standard that it was this time last year. Perhaps this is because Kate is moving to Corrie, and since she was told (probably about last summer time) that she had the job, maybe some of the storylines that she had planned she has saved for Corrie as this is the bigger soap of the two on ITV, hence why ED has taken a bit of a dip?
Kate Oates - Saving her best work for CS?
I don't watch Emmerdale,but I don't like what I've read about the style of show it's been under her watch. As a StreetFan I'm kind of apprehensive about her plans. I do hope that she realises that Coronation St. Is a different show with different traditions and strengths. I remember Jane McNaught,a producer who favoured sensationalises plots,from about 15 years ago. The endless sensation of her reign didn't work,and IIRC she was forced to leave the show.
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“It occurred to me today that maybe Kate Oates has been saving her best work for Corrie. Lately, Emmerdale has taken a bit of a dip, and even though there are some good storylines at the moment, and the spoilers for June etc look good, It's not up to the same standard that it was this time last year. Perhaps this is because Kate is moving to Corrie, and since she was told (probably about last summer time) that she had the job, maybe some of the storylines that she had planned she has saved for Corrie as this is the bigger soap of the two on ITV, hence why ED has taken a bit of a dip?”
“It occurred to me today that maybe Kate Oates has been saving her best work for Corrie. Lately, Emmerdale has taken a bit of a dip, and even though there are some good storylines at the moment, and the spoilers for June etc look good, It's not up to the same standard that it was this time last year. Perhaps this is because Kate is moving to Corrie, and since she was told (probably about last summer time) that she had the job, maybe some of the storylines that she had planned she has saved for Corrie as this is the bigger soap of the two on ITV, hence why ED has taken a bit of a dip?”
I hope so, but my only concern is they are both very different in the feel of the show, which could be a problem for long term viewers.
Originally Posted by Zeus89:
“I hope so, but my only concern is they are both very different in the feel of the show, which could be a problem for long term viewers.”
“I hope so, but my only concern is they are both very different in the feel of the show, which could be a problem for long term viewers.”
A talented producer should be able to realize that they are two completely different shows and adapt their craft for whatever, so hopefully that won't be a problem.
I don't think Kate took her eye off things in the last few months at Emmerdale - she would have been responsible for storylining the majority of the Aaron story even though Iain Macleod has been across the shooting of most of it . Plus if it's a good story it comes from existing character - you wouldn't shoe horn something into another show
Originally Posted by StreetFan:
“I don't watch Emmerdale,but I don't like what I've read about the style of show it's been under her watch. As a StreetFan I'm kind of apprehensive about her plans. I do hope that she realises that Coronation St. Is a different show with different traditions and strengths. I remember Jane McNaught,a producer who favoured sensationalises plots,from about 15 years ago. The endless sensation of her reign didn't work,and IIRC she was forced to leave the show.”
“I don't watch Emmerdale,but I don't like what I've read about the style of show it's been under her watch. As a StreetFan I'm kind of apprehensive about her plans. I do hope that she realises that Coronation St. Is a different show with different traditions and strengths. I remember Jane McNaught,a producer who favoured sensationalises plots,from about 15 years ago. The endless sensation of her reign didn't work,and IIRC she was forced to leave the show.”
I'm afraid I think she will introduce some sensationalist plots but not as extreme as Emmerdale, as it's just one street so she can't go overboard or it would be ridiculous! However, she she is a good storyteller and has created some great storylines and story arcs during her "reign" and I'm confident she'll bring this skill to the street.
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“A talented producer should be able to realize that they are two completely different shows and adapt their craft for whatever, so hopefully that won't be a problem.”
“A talented producer should be able to realize that they are two completely different shows and adapt their craft for whatever, so hopefully that won't be a problem.”
True, but i think the show needs to go back to basics, and not do any big stunts for a while especially after the whole Victoria courts fire and mini bus crash.
Originally Posted by Zeus89:
“True, but i think the show needs to go back to basics, and not do any big stunts for a while especially after the whole Victoria courts fire and mini bus crash.”
“True, but i think the show needs to go back to basics, and not do any big stunts for a while especially after the whole Victoria courts fire and mini bus crash.”
I completely agree, however, I can't see her going 3 odd years without a stunt of some sort, this is Kate Oates we're talking about!
Originally Posted by StreetFan:
“I don't watch Emmerdale,but I don't like what I've read about the style of show it's been under her watch. As a StreetFan I'm kind of apprehensive about her plans. I do hope that she realises that Coronation St. Is a different show with different traditions and strengths. I remember Jane McNaught,a producer who favoured sensationalises plots,from about 15 years ago. The endless sensation of her reign didn't work,and IIRC she was forced to leave the show.”
“I don't watch Emmerdale,but I don't like what I've read about the style of show it's been under her watch. As a StreetFan I'm kind of apprehensive about her plans. I do hope that she realises that Coronation St. Is a different show with different traditions and strengths. I remember Jane McNaught,a producer who favoured sensationalises plots,from about 15 years ago. The endless sensation of her reign didn't work,and IIRC she was forced to leave the show.”
Just out of interest what kind of storylines were there during her era? Was she responsible for Sarah teenage pregnancy storyline?
All I know is get ready to see an improvement in the cobbles. Say what you like about her choices, but Emmerdale is in decent shape with some decent storyline ideas.
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“Just out of interest what kind of storylines were there during her era? Was she responsible for Sarah teenage pregnancy storyline?”
“Just out of interest what kind of storylines were there during her era? Was she responsible for Sarah teenage pregnancy storyline?”
I know she was behind Toyah's rape.
I can't remember a lot of it but I have to say I was actually a big fan of her era at the time.
Worth noting than Iain McLeod's had a big say over Emmerdale's recent direction - it was his idea to muddle up David's test results according to Matthew Wolffenden. It suggests Kate Oates has been, at the very least, taking a back seat and allowing the new producer to have the final say; quite rightly so.
IDK I disagree. Im still loving Emmerdale right now, its just been going from strength to strength in the past year for me. My big hope is that Emmerdale continues to be as good under its new producer and doesn't lose what Kate Oates built.
Originally Posted by RobInnes:
“I know she was behind Toyah's rape.
I can't remember a lot of it but I have to say I was actually a big fan of her era at the time.”
“I know she was behind Toyah's rape.
I can't remember a lot of it but I have to say I was actually a big fan of her era at the time.”
Yes,the Toyah story. Also,the Sarah Lou pregnancy,Alma's cancer,Sarah Lou and the chat room guy were some of the major stories of her period. Not one of the show's funnier periods!
Originally Posted by SS_Summer:
“IDK I disagree. Im still loving Emmerdale right now, its just been going from strength to strength in the past year for me. My big hope is that Emmerdale continues to be as good under its new producer and doesn't lose what Kate Oates built.”
“IDK I disagree. Im still loving Emmerdale right now, its just been going from strength to strength in the past year for me. My big hope is that Emmerdale continues to be as good under its new producer and doesn't lose what Kate Oates built.”
Don't get me wrong, Emmerdale is in a strong place at the moment and is starting to pick again, and as I have said in another thread upcoming spoilers for June etc look good and even now there are some good long running storylines such as Ashley's Dementia. However, I think that Oates' "Golden era" was spring / early summer last year, which was fantastic imo and although it's good now, it's taken a bit of a dip in quality which prompted me to think that she's saving some of her best work for the cobbles.
[quote=StreetFan;82431539]Yes,the Toyah story. Also,the Sarah Lou pregnancy,Alma's cancer,Sarah Lou and the chat room guy were some of the major stories of her period. Not one of the show's funnier periods![/QUOTE]
No, it doesn't sound like it! Having said that, judging by those storylines I think I would enjoyed that era.
No, it doesn't sound like it! Having said that, judging by those storylines I think I would enjoyed that era.
I had problems with some of Jane Macnaught's storylines, mainly those in 2001 including Roy and Hayley going on the run with Wayne Hayes, Alma's cancer being ridiculously rushed, and Janice Battersby having an affair, but they were mostly okay. She was a terrible Corrie producer though as the humour all but disappeared during her time and she made it more storyline-driven which resulted in three of its leading writers quitting and the viewing figures went down by over a million viewers in both of her two years in charge. Carolyn Reynolds and Kieran Roberts had a lot of damage control to do when she was booted out and they took over.
True. Even though most of the subsequent producer eras have had their fair share of sensation,I think that they've all had more humour than the MacNaught period. She,along with Brian Park,seem to be the only ones who seemed to have little,if any,respect for the Street's traditions. I'm a bit worried that Kate Oates might also be in this category.
Originally Posted by StreetFan:
“True. Even though most of the subsequent producer eras have had their fair share of sensation,I think that they've all had more humour than the MacNaught period. She,along with Brian Park,seem to be the only ones who seemed to have little,if any,respect for the Street's traditions. I'm a bit worried that Kate Oates might also be in this category.”
“True. Even though most of the subsequent producer eras have had their fair share of sensation,I think that they've all had more humour than the MacNaught period. She,along with Brian Park,seem to be the only ones who seemed to have little,if any,respect for the Street's traditions. I'm a bit worried that Kate Oates might also be in this category.”
As I've said before I'm sure she'll be able to adapt her craft for another show and realse that ED & CS are miles apart. Unfortunately, Kate wasn't that big on humour in Emmerdale, and she hasn't mentioned it in interviews etc, but hopefully she realizes that humour is of paramount importance in corrie and always has been.
Originally Posted by StreetFan:
“I don't watch Emmerdale,but I don't like what I've read about the style of show it's been under her watch. As a StreetFan I'm kind of apprehensive about her plans. I do hope that she realises that Coronation St. Is a different show with different traditions and strengths. I remember Jane McNaught,a producer who favoured sensationalises plots,from about 15 years ago. The endless sensation of her reign didn't work,and IIRC she was forced to leave the show.”
“I don't watch Emmerdale,but I don't like what I've read about the style of show it's been under her watch. As a StreetFan I'm kind of apprehensive about her plans. I do hope that she realises that Coronation St. Is a different show with different traditions and strengths. I remember Jane McNaught,a producer who favoured sensationalises plots,from about 15 years ago. The endless sensation of her reign didn't work,and IIRC she was forced to leave the show.”
Streetfan, just out of interest are you a "streetfan" at the moment?
Hi Ben96. Well I still watch and enjoy to varying degrees. But,tbh,I'm more a fan of vintage Coronation Street.
Originally Posted by StreetFan:
“Hi Ben96. Well I still watch and enjoy to varying degrees. But,tbh,I'm more a fan of vintage Coronation Street.”
“Hi Ben96. Well I still watch and enjoy to varying degrees. But,tbh,I'm more a fan of vintage Coronation Street.”
Sorry, forgot about this thread, only just read this. I'm not old enough to have watched corrie "back in the day" but have seen some episodes from the 90s and early 2000s, and corrie was definitely much better back then. I honestly think that it's at the lowest it's ever been, now in 2016.
The comedy needs to be good and understated, if she gets that right then the sensationism will have to be muted to keep the overall tone of the show consistent, see Bill Podmore in the late 70s - he had rape, car crashes, strikes, Ernest Bishops death (which at the time was massive stunt for a soap) and still managed to keep the jovial nature of the show. He made a few mistakes but he still up there as one of the best Corrie producers. If Kate Oate's can even emulate two thirds of his style the show will vastly improve.
When does her first episode air?
When does her first episode air?
Originally Posted by Corrie_Fan2:
“The comedy needs to be good and understated, if she gets that right then the sensationism will have to be muted to keep the overall tone of the show consistent, see Bill Podmore in the late 70s - he had rape, car crashes, strikes, Ernest Bishops death (which at the time was massive stunt for a soap) and still managed to keep the jovial nature of the show. He made a few mistakes but he still up there as one of the best Corrie producers. If Kate Oate's can even emulate two thirds of his style the show will vastly improve.
When does her first episode air?”
“The comedy needs to be good and understated, if she gets that right then the sensationism will have to be muted to keep the overall tone of the show consistent, see Bill Podmore in the late 70s - he had rape, car crashes, strikes, Ernest Bishops death (which at the time was massive stunt for a soap) and still managed to keep the jovial nature of the show. He made a few mistakes but he still up there as one of the best Corrie producers. If Kate Oate's can even emulate two thirds of his style the show will vastly improve.
When does her first episode air?”
Agreed.
BIB: Not confirmed, but judging the transition at Emmerdale (Iain started in January, first episode last week) I would confidently say that from Early September she will be credited as producer.
