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Old 18-05-2016, 22:39
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My mother's grandmother was Irish and she used to stop the clocks in the house when someone died until they were "safely" buried - apparently she believed that the sound could attract the Devil who'd not only take the deceased to Hell (whether they deserved it or not) but any other soul he came upon. I have no idea if her being Irish had anything to do with it but that is the way the story has always been told in the Family.

Her husband, who made great pains to point out he was of Scottish stock (there was apparently some bad feeling about him marrying an Irish Catholic), would stop the clocks if someone died in the house for a more prosaic reason - that way he could correctly and easily inform anyone who needed to know the time of death just by looking at the clock!
The sound of clocks can attract the Devil?

No sleep for me tonight.
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Old 19-05-2016, 01:25
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My next door neighbour's burglar alarm went off at the time her brother died.

My nan's dad died and a loud unexplained bang was heard. The dog wouldn't go upstairs it's coat standing on end and my aunty saw her grandad standing in the doorway although that was not possible as dying/dead at the time.
These kind of things are amazing. This is what gives us insight into the fact that the world as we see it is certainly not all there is
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Old 19-05-2016, 10:12
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It was a nice, moving touch. And it subtly signals the end of an era in a very unique way.

What do you think it was done for?

But I find it fascinating how it's a very frequent occurrence for clocks to stop just after the death of someone in real life.

I didn't realize until it was pointed out to me afterwards, and a quick bit of research suggests the same thing.

Has anyone had anything similar?
Would you care to share any evidence that it's very frequent? Not even just 'frequent', which would be amazing enough, but 'very frequent'.

And links to your research would be nice. Though I do accept, as others have pointed out, that there's an explanation for this happening in the past, before battery or mains clocks.

Things like this are really incredible .................
The mot juste, I think.
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Old 19-05-2016, 11:16
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Would you care to share any evidence that it's very frequent? Not even just 'frequent', which would be amazing enough, but 'very frequent'.

And links to your research would be nice. Though I do accept, as others have pointed out, that there's an explanation for this happening in the past, before battery or mains clocks.



The mot juste, I think.
I won't supply you links to this because I could be there all day.

Google it, research it, tweet and post about it on Facebook.. Get talking about it with locals in the pub. That is the best way to get a balanced view and you may be very surprised how common it is

You're best of looking at different sources on the Internet. The amount of people that experience the same thing and even just the few on this thread suggest it isn't a rare occurance to have something like this happen at all
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Old 19-05-2016, 11:42
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Both my mum and my dad's watches stopped at the time they died. Neither were battery operated. My dad's alarm clock also stopped at the same time.
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Old 19-05-2016, 12:10
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Artistic effect, nothing more.
Yeah thats all it was, so we knew she had died.
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Old 19-05-2016, 13:21
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A nice touch signifying her heart had stopped.

I've not seen a clock stop but my then three year old started playing cars with my Nana after she died. He'd share them out and chat away to her and it scared me something rotten. She absolutely worshipped my children and I'd not put it past her to come play with them. There was also a doppelgänger of her who came and sat with my son in hospital too - she even had the same accent which is not common where I am. In fact I've never heard anyone here with that accent in 16 years. My son was sure that Nana was checking he was ok and keeping mummy calm. Some things are weird.
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Old 19-05-2016, 13:30
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I just thought that somebody had forgot to wind the clock.
I thought that too, I put it down to the fact Sharon has moved out so there is no one to wind the clocks.
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Old 19-05-2016, 15:27
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I won't supply you links to this because I could be there all day.

Google it, research it, tweet and post about it on Facebook.. Get talking about it with locals in the pub. That is the best way to get a balanced view and you may be very surprised how common it is

You're best of looking at different sources on the Internet. The amount of people that experience the same thing and even just the few on this thread suggest it isn't a rare occurance to have something like this happen at all
Or I could just assume you made it up.
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Old 19-05-2016, 20:54
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Or I could just assume you made it up.

Yeah you can assume I made it up.

Or you can actually go out and have a quick look on Google, Twitter, Facebook and just about everywhere that has actual people on it.


You want a link?

Here's 'a' link.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cl...+time+of+death

Why you can't be bothered to type it in yourself is your business but if you can't be bothered to have a single look then what's the point in even joining in a conversation?
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Old 19-05-2016, 22:31
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Yeah you can assume I made it up.

Or you can actually go out and have a quick look on Google, Twitter, Facebook and just about everywhere that has actual people on it.


You want a link?

Here's 'a' link.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cl...+time+of+death

Why you can't be bothered to type it in yourself is your business but if you can't be bothered to have a single look then what's the point in even joining in a conversation?
LOL. Because I don't actually care. What interested me was your specific statement about "very frequent", and the fact you said you'd done research. Many of the search results in your "link" are on the lines of this one :

Probably the most logical explanation for the practice of stopping a clock at about the time of a person's death is to record the time of death.
So they're about the old practice of stopping clocks when someone dies.

Now, how about justifying your statement that :

it's a very frequent occurrence for clocks to stop just after the death of someone in real life.
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Old 20-05-2016, 00:10
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When you die you die - that's it.

Just like all of the other organisms on the planet.

Anyone with empirical scientific evidence that proved otherwise would win the Nobel Prize and swiftly become the most famous person in history.

And no - I don't mean laughable charlatans like Sally Morgan.
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Old 20-05-2016, 00:29
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LOL. Because I don't actually care. What interested me was your specific statement about "very frequent", and the fact you said you'd done research. Many of the search results in your "link" are on the lines of this one :



So they're about the old practice of stopping clocks when someone dies.

Now, how about justifying your statement that :
For someone who doesn't 'care', you seem to care a lot.

Of course there are opinions like that. There's always going to be. And sometimes because it's just what happens.

But out of all the results, you chose that one to quote.


I can quote too:

'My sister said that the nurse had come in and discovered the clock had stopped. They didn't think a whole lot of it but when the nurse came again and looked for the time the clock had started operating again. The clock had stopped for approximately twenty minutes.'

'Lots of electrical stuff occurs after a loved one dies. I lost someone, and the tv kept going on by itself, etc., for a few days afterwards'

'This happened to my dad. His watch stopped when my grandads coffin went down to be cremated. It's never worked again, tried new batteries e..'

'when my Grandfather died, November 1959, not only did his clock stop but the glass split from top to bottom. That's the glass on the front6 of the clock.'

'..she passed away in her 40's. All the clocks in her house stopped, my dad still has one of the clocks, her favorite, it's still stuck at the time of her death and won't work, even with new batteries.'

'My granddad has one of those old grandfather clocks and he says it stoped right when my grandma died. He says he also took it in to get fixed and the guy couldn't figure out what was wrong with it and it chills in his living room to this day.'

'analogue oven clock stopped and never worked again after that. houses either side were fine! coincidence or not was rather spook..'
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Old 20-05-2016, 00:53
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How many open the window when someone dies to let the soul out - my father did it when my mother died and I did the same when my father died
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Old 20-05-2016, 01:00
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How many open the window when someone dies to let the soul out - my father did it when my mother died and I did the same when my father died
My friend says his mum does it at her job whenever someone's dying. I think she's at some kind of hospital but it's very much a done thing there. I know it's been a thing many have done traditionally. And in a way, it actually does make sense.

We are all energy. Scientifically. There physically has to be more than flesh and bones to make us move, think and feel.

Whole lot more in this world than meets the eye
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Old 20-05-2016, 01:41
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When you die you die - that's it.

Just like all of the other organisms on the planet.

Anyone with empirical scientific evidence that proved otherwise would win the Nobel Prize and swiftly become the most famous person in history.

And no - I don't mean laughable charlatans like Sally Morgan.
Don't get me wrong, philosophical Materialism is a perfectly respectable position to hold, but if you're interested in challenging your personal metaphysical beliefs (for that is exactly what Materialism is) I would suggest reading "Science and the Near-Death Experience" by Chris Carter. This brilliantly written book examines NDEs and other "deathbed" experiences from a rigorously scientific and philosophical perspective, and offers a bracing critique of the often fallacious if not downright absurd naturalist explanations which have been offered to account them (including Susan Blackmore's sloppy, amateurish "dying brain" theory which received much media hype on its release).
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Old 20-05-2016, 02:32
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Don't get me wrong, philosophical Materialism is a perfectly respectable position to hold, but if you're interested in challenging your personal metaphysical beliefs (for that is exactly what Materialism is) I would suggest reading "Science and the Near-Death Experience" by Chris Carter. This brilliantly written book examines NDEs and other "deathbed" experiences from a rigorously scientific and philosophical perspective, and offers a bracing critique of the often fallacious if not downright absurd naturalist explanations which have been offered to account them (including Susan Blackmore's sloppy, amateurish "dying brain" theory which received much media hype on its release).
You should post on general - discussions of this type are very common and far more in depth as well.
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Old 20-05-2016, 03:06
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I think its 11:35

I wonder what the odds are that a clock will stop at the time of a death
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Old 20-05-2016, 06:21
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I always find the little anecdotal and nonsensical comments that relate to subjects like this amusing almost everybody and their dog will be able to refer to some little whimsical event that did or didn't happen, some even venture into the realms of fantasy and some might even be true.
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Old 20-05-2016, 08:31
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Don't get me wrong, philosophical Materialism is a perfectly respectable position to hold, but if you're interested in challenging your personal metaphysical beliefs (for that is exactly what Materialism is) I would suggest reading "Science and the Near-Death Experience" by Chris Carter. This brilliantly written book examines NDEs and other "deathbed" experiences from a rigorously scientific and philosophical perspective, and offers a bracing critique of the often fallacious if not downright absurd naturalist explanations which have been offered to account them (including Susan Blackmore's sloppy, amateurish "dying brain" theory which received much media hype on its release).
Fantastic stuff. This is what we need to hear more of
And yes, mainstream media just won't highlight NDE's

I remember a test done a few years back which volunteers were induced into effective brain dead comas and brainwave activity absolutely could not exist. It was monitored and nothing happened

They came back with very similar NDE experiences if I remember correctly
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Old 20-05-2016, 09:37
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It was to signify the wind up key in her back had stopped.
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Old 20-05-2016, 10:49
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For someone who doesn't 'care', you seem to care a lot.

Of course there are opinions like that. There's always going to be. And sometimes because it's just what happens. ............
What interests me are people who make definitive statements about things which can happen only in a few cases, by pure coincidence, And refer to them as "very frequent". I think anyone reading that is entitled to ask for proof.

I'm just the same with those who claim that mediums, psychics, teleporters, telepaths, clairvoyants, levitators, ghosts, fortune tellers and faith healers are genuine.

And it wasn't an opinion; that's the point.

However, I don't think there's any point in discussing this further. You clearly can't prove your assertion, so that's the end of my interest. Bye.
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What interests me are people who make definitive statements about things which can happen only in a few cases, by pure coincidence, And refer to them as "very frequent". I think anyone reading that is entitled to ask for proof.

I'm just the same with those who claim that mediums, psychics, teleporters, telepaths, clairvoyants, levitators, ghosts, fortune tellers and faith healers are genuine.

And it wasn't an opinion; that's the point.

However, I don't think there's any point in discussing this further. You clearly can't prove your assertion, so that's the end of my interest. Bye.
You asked me to show you some evidence that is is happening to people very frequently.

I did and you ignored.

So I'll repeat again.
Just a few quotes from a very quick glance down discussions on the net:







'My sister said that the nurse had come in and discovered the clock had stopped. They didn't think a whole lot of it but when the nurse came again and looked for the time the clock had started operating again. The clock had stopped for approximately twenty minutes.'

'Lots of electrical stuff occurs after a loved one dies. I lost someone, and the tv kept going on by itself, etc., for a few days afterwards'

'This happened to my dad. His watch stopped when my grandads coffin went down to be cremated. It's never worked again, tried new batteries e..'

'when my Grandfather died, November 1959, not only did his clock stop but the glass split from top to bottom. That's the glass on the front6 of the clock.'

'..she passed away in her 40's. All the clocks in her house stopped, my dad still has one of the clocks, her favorite, it's still stuck at the time of her death and won't work, even with new batteries.'

'My granddad has one of those old grandfather clocks and he says it stoped right when my grandma died. He says he also took it in to get fixed and the guy couldn't figure out what was wrong with it and it chills in his living room to this day.'

'analogue oven clock stopped and never worked again after that. houses either side were fine! coincidence or not was rather spook..'
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Old 21-05-2016, 10:39
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You asked me to show you some evidence that is is happening to people very frequently.

I did and you ignored.

So I'll repeat again.
Just a few quotes from a very quick glance down discussions on the net:

...............
Discussions? Not really. I googled them all, and apart from this thread, and one false hit, each quote gave only two hits.

The two hits were actually the same page, one referenced by magazine name, the other by IP.

And every single one was from a single page of a single thread. You've simply copied each post.

The magazine is "above top secret", which I know nothing about, but seems to appeal to conspiracy theorists and psi believers. So unless you can produce some actual evidence for your assertion, it really is goodbye.
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Old 21-05-2016, 10:47
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