My Mum died at 8.23 a.m. and for a long time afterwards I would awake around this time.......must have been a body-clock thing.

As you clearly find it a bit difficult to look around at multiple results, I'll post you a few more quotes, from multiple sources, and none from the 'only 2' you suggested:

'wondering if anyone has had a similar experience. We have recently had a death in the family involving a child and since this happend strange things keep happening. My kitchen clock has stopped 3 times despite changing the batteries. The same clock has also stopped and restarted on its own accord.'

'My mum's wind up clock stops ticking when someone in the family dies and it's impossible to rewind the clock and keep it going for a few days, usually less than a week'

'happened when my grandmother died! She had lots of clocks in her home, probably 10 that had to be hand-wound, and they stopped on the exact time when she died. I don't know why, and I don't really think anyone would believe me, either..'

' He died at 12:20 p.m. -- the exact time my living room clock stopped ticking. '

But like you say, goodbye.

I'm not fussed if you go or not. But if you want to keep telling me there isn't evidence that many people are speaking about this everywhere, I will keep proving why you are wrong

There weren't "only 2", there was only one. One page of one thread, referenced twice, one by magazine name and one by IP. Which gives two distinct (but not different) hits.

I checked two of them, and they're simply posts on forums. I don't think you can use anonymous posts on one forum as "evidence" about the content of a post on a different forum.

And I see "very frequent" has now been reduced to "many". If you can produce independent evidence, with links, and not just stories, then I might pay attention.

It's 10.30 - when pubs call last orders..

'Many', 'very frequent', I clearly just called it a different name lol.

No, regardless, I have said from the start that there is a lot of evidence to suggest many independent people around the world are talking about their experiences.

A very quick look on Google suggests I'm right.

Further searches on social networks like Facebook, Twitter also say the same thing.

I think if there really was a life after death that the deceased would come up with something a bit more awe-inspiring to communicate with those left behind than stopping a bloody clock.

But there isnt so they don't.

There are millions upon millions of people dying every year and clocks have to stop sometime.

As for NDE's they are what it says on the tin - near death not actual death and I have no doubt that the neurological and physiological reasons for those experiences will be incontrovertibly proved by science one day.

The clock stopping I believe is caused by soul energy being released from the body and is actually powerful enough to stop electrical machines around it rather than being a sign.

You should look up the experiment/s that were done a few years ago where they stopped all brainwave activity in order to ensure anything experienced couldn't possibly be in the mind. I can't remember what the experiments were called but very very fascinating results

That sounds like murder!

Was it Sir Bobster of Bloodbath conducting the experiment?

Seriously though in all of my science reading I have never heard of this particular study.

Was it peer reviewed for example?

Please post a link if you can find it.

As for the soul I don't believe we have one, and neither does any other lifeform for that matter.

Can't we just accept that it was done for dramatic effect on a fictional TV programme.

I really wish I could find it.

Remember hearing about this years ago and probably stored the info on a piece of paper before I became OCD about online note taking in every part of my life lol.


There is, however, the next best thing:

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/21/near_death_explained/

That's a fascinating read.
Not what I was trying to find but still

Very interesting.

But see the counter arguments with regard to Mario Beauregard.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Non-mat...t_neuroscience

I don't recall any reports of havoc being caused in hospitals when someone dies. After all, there are quite a few electrical machines in those.

Valid point re Hospital machines or which there are dozens in each bay or room (or their wall clocks which tend to be run on batteries) stopping each and every time somebody dies.

I can assure you that my Mum died in Hospital and that didn't happen. Also, my Mum's 2 best friends were Nurses, 40 years experience and very senior by the time they retired, and had worked all over the World such as Romania in 91 so they had seen hundreds, if not thousands of deaths. Whilst incredibly caring, they are probably two of the most skeptical people re other life I've ever met - indeed they both opted for non spiritual or religious ceremonies when they died.

Of course that isn't proof, I will never condemn as nonsense anybody for what they've seen or experiences they've had.

Belief is belief.

But I do think that the same occurrence can be seen differently by different people depending on whether they want to see a meaning or will just write it off to a fluke or co-incidence. IE - the clock just happened to need new batteries at the same time as somebody in the family died. Or you even don't notice it, looking from the other side.

I think there is a God. I don't understand it, i can't explain it, but i feel (hope) there is something which is not rational.

However, I'm also a sceptic. I (sadly) have had a lot of people close to me die and i have never encountered any of these 'clock stop' moments - even the more spiritual of my friends who claim to have seen ghosts, have never reported anything like it.

So, I do find it hard to believe. That thousands of people die every day and only a tiny percentage of some relatives report such events.

Re the show, it was just a dramatic device, playing into the old superstition. If it had been more than that, i think they'd have shown Somebody finding the Clock stopped and commenting on it only having batteries replaced a few days ago so odd it had.

Anyone can claim to have experienced anything they like doesn't mean they actually have.

I've been doing some research of my own, and came across an interesting forum post, looking at the maths of this. It was something along these lines :

In the US 2,500,000 people die each year.

Assume each person has 20 people who'll be affected by their death.

Assume each of those people has 8 timepieces of various types, which is probably an underestimate.

Then, for up to 400 million timepieces a year, a stoppage on the day of a death could be seen as significant.

The next stage is the difficult one : calculating the probability of a timepiece stopping. It's actually pretty arbitrary really.

Battry operated : if a battery lasts, on average, 2 years, 8 months and 27 days, then there's exactly a 1 in 1000 chance of a device stopping on any given day.

Mains : we get very brief interruptions in mains electricity at least 4 times a year. Most devices carry on, but three of our mains powered clocks revert to 00:00.

Apart from power, there are other reasons why clocks might stop.

So decide what proportion of timepieces are battery, mains or subject to mechanical failure, and work out the probabilities.

What it comes down to is, that 400 million or more timepieces, some will stop on the day of a death. Nobody bothers to write to the forums specialising in this type of story, to report that their father died, but the clocks didn't stop. Incidentally, I notice that, of the posts I've read, none mention the poster's location or the year the event took place.

Nothing supernatural, just synchronicity.


I totally agree, and I'm probably responsible for dragging the thread on for so long. But as I said, I'm a sucker for people making definite statements about supernatural events.

when my son was dying in hospital the nurse opened the window to let his soul free

Shortly after my nan died, the lightbulb in her room inexplicably exploded and we were all sitting in darkness.

Reminds me of 2 years ago where my family were quite literally hit by a spiritual attack. Sounds dramatic I know.

But a lot of things started happening. I won't get into too much detail here but we had an exploding light, one fell off the ceiling and a gas smell around.

I'm not saying it's the same situation at all. I think mine is a lot more dark lol, but I do very very much believe that spirits (which are in us all) have a huge amount of energy capable of effecting physical things

Then why has science never detected all of this energy?

Science can only detect what it goes looking for. Look at this supposed 9th planet lurking in our own back door that they all seem fairly certain exists but hadn't a clue about 12 months ago.

There is a heck of a lot of evidence suggesting that humans are 'energy' beings. And that humans emit energy far more than we realize. I remember reading how experiments were done with humans 'directing' energy at water for example and being able to alter it.

Here's one link, but there's a lot of scientists saying the human energy theory now than there used to be:

http://www.activistpost.com/2014/03/...hat-prove.html


I agree quite a lot here. The difference in scientific beliefs just in a few years space is baffling