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EgyptAir Flight MS804 from Paris to Cairo 'disappears from radar' |
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BFMTV has tweeted the following: ALERT INFO - Paris - Cairo flight: the plane crashed off the coast of the Greek island of Karpathos
Take it with a pinch of salt as always. BFMTV is a French news channel. AFP also saying this citing Greek airport source. Having just googled, that island is way way off from where it was supposed to have vanished. |
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Egyptian military has denied that there was a distress call.
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According to a Sky News commentator, it could apparently have been a 'fascist group' wanting to 'smear' the reputation of the Islamic world...
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Apparently the most likely scenario is that it's crashed into the sea.
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BFMTV has tweeted the following: ALERT INFO - Paris - Cairo flight: the plane crashed off the coast of the Greek island of Karpathos
Take it with a pinch of salt as always. BFMTV is a French news channel. AFP also saying this citing Greek airport source. Having just googled, that island is way way off from where it was supposed to have vanished. |
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According to a Sky News commentator, it could apparently have been a 'fascist group' wanting to 'smear' the reputation of the Islamic world...
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Fox News are reporting that a vessel called in a flame in the sky.
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Sky News now speculating whether the aircraft was correctly maintained,
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BFMTV has tweeted the following: ALERT INFO - Paris - Cairo flight: the plane crashed off the coast of the Greek island of Karpathos
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According to a Sky News commentator, it could apparently have been a 'fascist group' wanting to 'smear' the reputation of the Islamic world...
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Apparently the most likely scenario is that it's crashed into the sea.
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And this is what happens when you have 24 hour news - mass speculation and broadcasts without any factual basis. A bit like this thread I guess...
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And this is what happens when you have 24 hour news - mass speculation and broadcasts without any factual basis. A bit like this thread I guess...
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And this is what happens when you have 24 hour news - mass speculation and broadcasts without any factual basis. A bit like this thread I guess...
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He was going through a list of what it could be, the same way it could just be a major catastrophic failure. Good on Sam Kiley to point out that terrorism doesn't just mean Islamic and that it comes in many forms.
"We have no idea. This could've been a fascist group, if it was a terrorist act behind this, trying to smear the Islamic tradition right across the globe". |
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Exactly! Add in that people want to know EXACTLY what happened NOW and seemingly cannot seem to grasp that initial information can be confused, uncertain, or just lacking. Not to mention that if the plane has crashed into a relatively small sea - it is still a very big area to search, and that debris is still quite difficult to spot amongst the detritus and small boats etc in the area.
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He said:
"We have no idea. This could've been a fascist group, if it was a terrorist act behind this, trying to smear the Islamic tradition right across the globe". That could be one, but it could be anything. |
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How can a multi tonne object carrying 66 passengers disappear from Radar?
They can track a mobile phone but not a bloody plane ffs I really hope its not a bomb because that means it got past Paris airport security |
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I never said he didn't say that, my point was he listed several things. Feel free to include what he had said before and after that. He has been interviewed several times and gone through a number of possibilities.
That could be one, but it could be anything. |
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He left out aliens though, which is only slightly less likely than it being a "fascist group" wanting to "smear the the Islamic tradition right across the globe".
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How can a multi tonne object carrying 66 passengers disappear from Radar?
They can track a mobile phone but not a bloody plane ffs I really hope its not a bomb because that means it got past Paris airport security |
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I think the point is...there is nothing left to track ie the object being tracked is no longer there. Taking the (currently assumed position) that there was no distress call then one must speculate that the plane suffered explosive decompression for some reason or the pilot dived the plane below an altitude not covered by radar and decided not to broadcast a mayday. Eitherway it does not look good.
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Can they not invent a device that is trackable even if the plane decompresses?
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French media reporting wreckage found off the coast of Karpathos.
No confirmation though.
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If it was 10 mile from landing woukd it have been starting it's descent?
A ground to air missile could have taken it down. |
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If it was 10 mile from landing woukd it have been starting it's descent?
A ground to air missile could have taken it down. |
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I think the black box has a tracker beacon but can only be "detected" from relatively close range. I could be wrong, no doubt someone will confirm or correct.
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Do you really not see how distasteful this is?
My money's on a bomb, maybe set to go off at a certain altitude. I wouldn't rule out catastrophic mechanical failure though. It could always be one of those fascist groups, trying to smear the good name of Islam of course..... |
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Why do you find people speculating on the causes of this disaster, on a discussion forum, distasteful ?
My money's on a bomb, maybe set to go off at a certain altitude. I wouldn't rule out catastrophic mechanical failure though. It could always be one of those fascist groups, trying to smear the good name of Islam of course..... |
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No confirmation though.