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Old 19-05-2016, 15:58
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My Humax box picks this up with no problems, but my YouView box, which adds new channels automatically, doesn't see it at all. I believe they're both searching the Waltham transmitter, so is it just that the YouView box isn't as good as the Humax?

Does anybody know which channel number I should be searching manually on the YouView box? These are different channel numbers to the ones that appear on the TV, but ones which contain groups of channels, starting at around 28.
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Old 19-05-2016, 16:06
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It must be your box. My YouView box (a BT-branded Humax, even though I am am a TalkTalk customer) picks it up just fine. If you haven't tried a manual retune yet, I would give it a go.
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Old 19-05-2016, 16:22
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My Humax box picks this up with no problems, but my YouView box, which adds new channels automatically, doesn't see it at all. I believe they're both searching the Waltham transmitter, so is it just that the YouView box isn't as good as the Humax?

Does anybody know which channel number I should be searching manually on the YouView box? These are different channel numbers to the ones that appear on the TV, but ones which contain groups of channels, starting at around 28.
Talking Pictures is on the COM7 mux along with BBC4 HD, BBC News HD, 5USA +1 and several others, see the list here and sort by MUX

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/industry/...annel_listings

If you are only missing Talking Pictures but get the others on COM 7 then that suggests a different fault to not receiving the mux at all (in which case all the channels on COM 7 would be missing).

If you are receiving from Waltham then you need to manually tune in UHF Channel 31. And if the box gives you the option select DVB - T2 mode as well.

One potential issue with the COM 7 and COM 8 muxes transmitted by some sites is that they are often lower power than the other 6 muxes and sometimes directional as well. This means they often don't cover the same area as the main muxes.

If the Humax box has a slightly more sensitive tuner than the YouView box it might be able to pick these muxes up well enough to use. But a "deafer" box might reject them even though you are using the same aerial!

Another thing to try. if you have the two boxes daisy chained off the same aerial feed try swapping them round, eg if the aerial goes to the Humax box first then the YouView box try plugging the aerial directly to the YouView box and hang the Humax off the YouView box.

It could be the lead between the two boxes causing the problem. if it is a poor quality badly screened cable it could loose just enough extra signal and let in that little bit more interference to make the difference. So always use well made well screened cables and keep the aerial cables as physically separate from other cables as possible to reduce mutual interference. HDMI cables seem to be a common problem reported in these parts
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Old 19-05-2016, 17:03
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Having just had another look, I don't think the TalkTalk YouView box even has the facility to tune manually. I did wonder if I'd hidden BBC3 when it was scrapped, which has therefore hidden channel 81. The trouble with the YouView box is that it doesn't allow you to restore hidden channels without restoring the whole damned lot

By the way, which is the 'channel' number I should be searching on (as defined in the Humax box) which contains Com 7?
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Old 19-05-2016, 17:18
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Having just had another look, I don't think the TalkTalk YouView box even has the facility to tune manually. I did wonder if I'd hidden BBC3 when it was scrapped, which has therefore hidden channel 81. The trouble with the YouView box is that it doesn't allow you to restore hidden channels without restoring the whole damned lot

By the way, which is the 'channel' number I should be searching on (as defined in the Humax box) which contains Com 7?
As I posted above the UHF Channel number of Com 7 on Waltham is 31.

And come to think of it I believe you are right in that YouView boxes do not have a manual tune option. So the UHF channel number for any of the muxes is irrelevant anyway. There is no way to feed this number into the box and tune just a single mux. You only have the option to tune the entire band automatically.
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Old 19-05-2016, 18:07
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As I posted above the UHF Channel number of Com 7 on Waltham is 31.
Sorry – my brain always goes into standby whenever the word MUX crops up in these posts.

It's only of technical importance because I hardly ever bother with my YouView box. I gave it up not long after first getting it, because I didn't think it was worth te extra money I was paying for it. I bought a far superior Humax 2000T to replace it but then TalkTalk offered me the TV package free of charge for some reason I've long since forgotten. It might have been for 12 months only, so I'll gladly surrender it if I then have to pay for the service. I've never used any of the subscription services on it.
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Old 20-05-2016, 01:53
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The trouble with the YouView box is that it doesn't allow you to restore hidden channels without restoring the whole damned lot
There is a way to restore a hidden channel.

You need to check the listings for a program which is on the channel you want to unhide, then use the search function on your YouView box to search for that program by name.

When it finds the program and lists it as being on a hidden channel, set it to record and the box will ask you if you want to unhide the channel, say yes and the channel reappears in the guide.
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Old 20-05-2016, 08:14
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Or you can just press the yellow button - edit channels... in the EPG guide. and un-hide the channel.
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Old 20-05-2016, 11:09
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Or you can just press the yellow button - edit channels... in the EPG guide. and un-hide the channel.
Does not work. Once hidden, they do not appear in the list of channels even if you press the yellow button. The method I describe in post #7 is the only way to restore a hidden channel without restoring all of them.
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Old 20-05-2016, 14:49
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Or you can just press the yellow button - edit channels... in the EPG guide. and un-hide the channel.
Tried that - doesn't work. Will try the other idea now.

It works! Now that's what I call a real bit of lateral thinking. I don't know how you're expected to work that out and you'd think YouView would have made it easier.
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Old 21-05-2016, 05:01
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Sorry. Maybe it's to do with the talk talk box you have.. I have the BT Box and the yellow button works fine.

Edit my bad..
After the yellow button you can press the red button (Restore channels) and that would work although doing that I think would un-hide all the channels again.
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Old 21-05-2016, 11:28
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There is a way to restore a hidden channel.

You need to check the listings for a program which is on the channel you want to unhide, then use the search function on your YouView box to search for that program by name.

When it finds the program and lists it as being on a hidden channel, set it to record and the box will ask you if you want to unhide the channel, say yes and the channel reappears in the guide.
BBC3 as stopped broadcasting OTA. Therefore that would not work for BBC3 as no programmes exist to be found.
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Old 21-05-2016, 23:44
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BBC3 as stopped broadcasting OTA. Therefore that would not work for BBC3 as no programmes exist to be found.
Why would you want to unhide a channel which no longer broadcasts
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Old 23-05-2016, 17:14
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Why would you want to unhide a channel which no longer broadcasts
Somebody somewhere suggested that Talkingpictures had taken over BBC3's channel slot.
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Old 23-05-2016, 17:21
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If you are receiving from Waltham then you need to manually tune in UHF Channel 31. And if the box gives you the option select DVB - T2 mode as well.
And herein lies the answer to another problem. Although it is an SD channel it is broadcast in the same group as the HD channels. That's why I can't get it tuned in on my dad's Freeview SD television. It's a shame, because there are many films shown that I think he'd like.
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Old 24-05-2016, 06:34
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If his birthday is coming up, you could always buy him a Freeview HD set top box, I suppose.
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Old 24-05-2016, 08:16
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Why would you want to unhide a channel which no longer broadcasts
I don't but see post #4.

Also I'm not the only one who has offered comments in response to post #4.

Or should I have asked you why you posted #7 which presumably was posted in context i.e. unhiding BBC 3!
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