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Corrie's Jack P Shephered "refused meeting with Kate Oates"
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Mark_Washingto1
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“That isn't how it works. Nobody is bigger than the show (even if some on Corrie like to think they are). No matter how good you are at your job, how valuable to have on board, if you say no to your boss, the person who keeps you in work and pays you for doing that work, the chances are you are going to go down the road and they will get somebody else, who might not be as good as you but at least they don't have a jumped up sense of their own self importance.”

That is with a regular job but tv shows are a bit different and without the actors you don't have much of a show. The fact is Jack Shepard is way more important to Corrie than Kate Oates (no offense to her).
TheGraduate2012
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by sheepiefarm:
“Hmmm - I forsee a storyline looming where David suddenly becomes bi-sexual, hss a torrid affair with Todd and then blows up half the street in a bid to cover it up

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Did you read my mind?

But seriously, this is very unprofessional of him. If I refused to go to a 1:1 with my boss I'd know about it. Kate should stand her ground.
soap-lea
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by Sweet_Chocolate:
“Such a great actress she spent 26 years in the same soap, and her axing is something this forum never stops going on about.

I don't see why the young actors should give up their full time jobs just because this forum is bitter towards them. Would you suddenly leave your job because someone said you wouldn't have the guts to move on?

We don't even know if this story is true and it is published by the Sun of all things, but typically this forum believes any tripe written and gives them the opportunity to spout the same crap and moan because the actors dare not quit.”

she wasn't even axed, she chose to leave
honeythewitch
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by machobob:
“And on the other end of the spectrum, Anthony Cotton is licking arse.”

He needs to lick a bit harder then, because he has never had a decent storyline.

Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I think he said it to her, but he said it more like, he didn't want to interfere and that he'd work with whatever she comes up with.”

Its probably best if the actors act and the producers produce. Its what they are trained for.


Originally Posted by wallo mr slug:
“Jack said this at a recent press event and I was on the same table as The Sun - so I can say that he spoke completely tongue in cheek and the message he was getting across was that he doesn't find meetings with producers comfortable and he prefers to find out what's in store when he gets the scripts. He also joked that he 'just doesn't like walking up stairs.'

He praised Kate and the stuff about him making a fuss if he was not getting the storylines he wanted was also a joke, in response to Paula saying 'oh yeah, he'd be hammering down her door if that were the case.'

It was all very light hearted and, from where I was sitting, didn't seem arrogant at all.”

Thank you Mr Slug.
Andybear
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“That is with a regular job but tv shows are a bit different and without the actors you don't have much of a show. The fact is Jack Shepard is way more important to Corrie than Kate Oates (no offense to her).”

I'm with CollieWobbles - no actor is bigger than the show. What goes in America doesn't necessarily go in the UK.
Mark_Washingto1
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“I'm with CollieWobbles - no actor is bigger than the show. What goes in America doesn't necessarily go in the UK.”

I'm not saying Jack is bigger than the show, but he's more important to it than Kate Oates, sure Coronation Street could go on without him but he's been there for almost 2 decades ad she's been there a few months and will be lucky if she's there for 3 years. Producers come and go but (some) actors are there for the life of the show.
Lisa_Charlene
20-05-2016
It might be taken out of context from the sound of it sounds like he just said he trusted her judgement so would leave character ideas to her.
Menime123
21-05-2016
In fairness if you are committed to the show no matter what, you don't need to know what storylines they have in store for you. It's a mark of a actor confident enough to just deal with any storyline they throw at him and get on with it - he doesn't care what the storyline is, doesn't want to say 'yes or no' or give opinions on it.

For a soap actor I find that refreshing - it means he has separation from David and isn't necessarily protective of the character enough to want a say 'no, David wouldn't do that' etc.
CollieWobbles
21-05-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“That is with a regular job but tv shows are a bit different and without the actors you don't have much of a show. The fact is Jack Shepard is way more important to Corrie than Kate Oates (no offense to her).”

No you don't have much of a show, but actors who are difficult are unlikely to have much of a career either as a reputation for being hard to work with doesn't really make for many opportunities. No matter how good you are, who wants someone who throws their weight around thinking they can do as they please? Most people with any sense would do their best to stay on the right side of a new boss, not give them reason to be pissed off, especially in acting/TV, which is a fickle business where there's always somebody willing to step into your shoes.
Noush
21-05-2016
I've read loads that this vile little creature is just as bad in real life than just as David and this clearly proves it.

Katie is such a brilliant person and consummate professional but nevertheless I do hope her revenge is served cold and we get to see Jack's punishment further down the line.

What a choke he would get if she wrote him out! As if that weasel could act in ANY THING else!

He should shut his mouth and be grateful. Fancy refusing a meeting with your boss. Unprofessional, rude and arrogant. He needs a slap!
Oldnjaded
21-05-2016
Originally Posted by Noush:
“I've read loads that this vile little creature is just as bad in real life than just as David and this clearly proves it.

Katie is such a brilliant person and consummate professional but nevertheless I do hope her revenge is served cold and we get to see Jack's punishment further down the line.

What a choke he would get if she wrote him out! As if that weasel could act in ANY THING else!

He should shut his mouth and be grateful. Fancy refusing a meeting with your boss. Unprofessional, rude and arrogant. He needs a slap!”



I'm guessing you haven't read Wallo's post #44 then?
davejc64
21-05-2016
All I'm seeing is new boss wanting to chat and get to know her work colleagues on a one to one basis, you can bet he wouldn't have been the only one she wanted to chat with, but he was the only one who wanted to make an issue of it, maybe he felt she hadn't done it in the right order maybe she had spoken to someone he deemed as being less important then him first, just shows a lack of respect and professionalism on his part emphasised by his need to blab to the media about it.
eastboy1980
21-05-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“She can't fire him, he's easily the best actor under 40 on the show and a legacy character at that. Jack Shepard would have to murder someone to get fired from Corrie.”

Of course she can fire him. No one is untouchable. every workforce needs refreshing now and again otherwise people get complacent and productivity goes down. Soaps are no different.
StreetFan
21-05-2016
Originally Posted by wallo mr slug:
“Jack said this at a recent press event and I was on the same table as The Sun - so I can say that he spoke completely tongue in cheek and the message he was getting across was that he doesn't find meetings with producers comfortable and he prefers to find out what's in store when he gets the scripts. He also joked that he 'just doesn't like walking up stairs.'

He praised Kate and the stuff about him making a fuss if he was not getting the storylines he wanted was also a joke, in response to Paula saying 'oh yeah, he'd be hammering down her door if that were the case.'

It was all very light hearted and, from where I was sitting, didn't seem arrogant at all.”

For all those who missed the above posting first time round,please read before making any more comments about Jack.
Joe_H11
21-05-2016
He says in the article, he does it with every producer.

Obviously some actors rather pick up the script and be surprised, then know months in advance
Hankshaw
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Ridiculous attitude if true, (and where a paper uses direct quotes rather than 'an inside source' they usually are).

What's he talking about,

There's no suggestion (and highly unlikely) she would've been begging him to think of storylines.......as if! She may have wanted to give him her vision for what might be coming up for him in the future. He'll never know now, the knobhead.”

Exactly. It's just good sense for a producer to talk to actors, especially ones who have been around for years. She probably had ideas she wanted to tell him to see if he liked them or not. Sometimes actors can be uncomfortable with having to do certain things or find it goes against their characters personality. If she's never met the guy before how is she to know he has no interest in that sort of thing. There's no need for him to be so rude to her.
wallo mr slug
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by Hankshaw:
“Exactly. It's just good sense for a producer to talk to actors, especially ones who have been around for years. She probably had ideas she wanted to tell him to see if he liked them or not. Sometimes actors can be uncomfortable with having to do certain things or find it goes against their characters personality. If she's never met the guy before how is she to know he has no interest in that sort of thing. There's no need for him to be so rude to her.”

But he wasn't rude at all...it was very light hearted
Glendarroch
22-05-2016
I can quite understand that he hates these sorts of conversations and wants to avoid them, I feel the same way about performance reviews!

As Wallo Mr Slug has pointed out he could well have been joking and meant no disrespect to Kate Oates.
Noush
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“

I'm guessing you haven't read Wallo's post #44 then? ”

Ohhh...no I didn't...but I know what I think when I look at him and feel about the stories in the press which I frankly don't think were exaggerated otherwise why would he apologise? For one of the below at least - shame it was about a dog joke and not his disabled child.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...-could-4423451

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/c...epherd-4252605

Hankshaw
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“I can quite understand that he hates these sorts of conversations and wants to avoid them, I feel the same way about performance reviews!

As Wallo Mr Slug has pointed out he could well have been joking and meant no disrespect to Kate Oates.”

Refusing a meeting in even a jokey way is rude and disrespectful. He could have gone into the meeting and when asked explained to her that its not something he takes any interest in.

It's also his boss. It's not for him to decide whether or not he wants to attend a meeting with her.
Oldnjaded
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“I can quite understand that he hates these sorts of conversations and wants to avoid them, I feel the same way about performance reviews!

As Wallo Mr Slug has pointed out he could well have been joking and meant no disrespect to Kate Oates.”

Yes, I posted my initial reaction before Wallo posted what sounds like a far more likely explanation. Clearly Jack P Shepherd is never going to be anybody's role model in life, lol, but it seems clear that the paper put a ridiculously negative spin on the 'story' to sell more copy........which of course is what they do.
Glendarroch
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by Hankshaw:
“Refusing a meeting in even a jokey way is rude and disrespectful. He could have gone into the meeting and when asked explained to her that its not something he takes any interest in.

It's also his boss. It's not for him to decide whether or not he wants to attend a meeting with her.”

Did you read Wallo Mr aSlug' s post?It came across quite clearly that he was making a joke for the press, not genuinely refusing the meeting. It' s all about tone of voice. He probably made a similar joke to Kate. It doesn' t mean he has any intention of actually refusing the interview. It sounds like it' s been a passing witty remark which has been taken completely out of context and blown out of proportion- people do get to make jokes with their boss!

Don' t you think it would be pretty rude to go to a meeting and say you' re not interested in the discussion?
soap-lea
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by Noush:
“Ohhh...no I didn't...but I know what I think when I look at him and feel about the stories in the press which I frankly don't think were exaggerated otherwise why would he apologise? For one of the below at least - shame it was about a dog joke and not his disabled child.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...-could-4423451

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/c...epherd-4252605

”

why are you bringing up unconnected things?

have you considered that you and others may not get his sense of humour?

but quite interesting that you have gone on the attack about the actor and cannot say anything nice, does that not make you similar? at least he is trying to be lighthearted are you?
CollieWobbles
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“Did you read Wallo Mr aSlug' s post?It came across quite clearly that he was making a joke for the press, not genuinely refusing the meeting. It' s all about tone of voice. He probably made a similar joke to Kate. It doesn' t mean he has any intention of actually refusing the interview. It sounds like it' s been a passing witty remark which has been taken completely out of context and blown out of proportion- people do get to make jokes with their boss!

Don' t you think it would be pretty rude to go to a meeting and say you' re not interested in the discussion?”

Whether he meant it or not, from experience, I wouldn't crack jokes with the boss, unless I knew them really, really well, which given KO has only just started at Corrie, he probably doesn't. I am someone who makes light of everything and doesn't take life seriously, I once worked somewhere and was sorting the post out when one of the bosses said the postage stamp for one of the letters needed to be smaller for the size of the envelope. 'Cut it in half then' was my reply, I was just joking about and clearly not being serious, but the miserable cow went and told my superior, who didn't see the funny side at all and I got a right ticking off. Unless your very lucky, wisecracks and bosses don't go together.
little-monster
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“Whether he meant it or not, from experience, I wouldn't crack jokes with the boss, unless I knew them really, really well, which given KO has only just started at Corrie, he probably doesn't. I am someone who makes light of everything and doesn't take life seriously, I once worked somewhere and was sorting the post out when one of the bosses said the postage stamp for one of the letters needed to be smaller for the size of the envelope. 'Cut it in half then' was my reply, I was just joking about and clearly not being serious, but the miserable cow went and told my superior, who didn't see the funny side at all and I got a right ticking off. Unless your very lucky, wisecracks and bosses don't go together.”

Genius. That's rather funny actually.
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