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Old 27-08-2016, 08:22
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I'm very surprised that our new biccy friend had not heard of the No1 reggae hit Double Barrell before. It's not obscure at all. I've always known it from an early age. If there was one No1 from 1971 that I rate as obscure it comes a few weeks beforehand and it was the second No1 by Mungo Jerry with Baby Jump.
You're definitely right about Baby Jump being obscure. And qualitywise, it does not sound like number 1 material at all. Was this chart position more a rebound hit off the back of In The Summer Time? It does not sound hugely commercial or memorable, but perhaps I am reacting to it like that precisely because it is very fresh to my ears and it needs more listens. Another one that has been rarely played over the years.
Looking forward to reading the Rich T review of the latest TOTP. I Hope that forum member Kit Kat also posts his thoughts on the edition.
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Old 27-08-2016, 08:33
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The first time I was aware of Double Barrel was when it a clip of it was shown on that TOTP anniversary show that Smashy and Nicey presented in the early 90s. It was just a clip of the intro and I thought it seemed a bit scary, but hearing the song in full it isn't a bad tune.

For ages I never knew how the number one when I was born - Angel Fingers by Wizzard - went, though I'd heard See My Baby Jive and, of course, I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day loads of times.
Yes, Clare, I would have thought that Angel Fingers is another huge number 1 hit that many people may not have heard or many would not easily remember how it goes..
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Old 27-08-2016, 08:49
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Yes, Clare, I would have thought that Angel Fingers is another huge number 1 hit that many people may not have heard or many would not easily remember how it goes..
Yes I think most people remember See My Baby Jive. Baby Jump does nothing for me either. Doesn't have any hook really and never understood why it got to No.1.
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:05
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This song takes repetition and tunelessness about as far as it can go while still being likable!
Agree with this - but omit the last four words.
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:11
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Seven Tears, The Lions Sleeps Tonight, and Yours. What a fantastic top 3!
It's a top 3 straight from Hades. Andy.
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:12
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Well, you ****ed that up didn't you Garth?
Tutored by Bates, obviously.
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:14
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Team Cheryl - Go girl!!
Although I am in Team Jay - Cheryl easily wins battle of the pins tonight.
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:15
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This is as terrible as I remember it, albeit good by Fizz standards....
Yep - count me in with Team Eraserhead on this one. I just don't get the love for this piece of mediocrity.
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:18
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Love Like Blood was the Joke's finest hour. Epic power pop track.
Love like Blood is a 'powerbomb' of a track. One of my favourites from the much maligned on here 85. Have to admit, I've never heard this KJ track but it is easily the track of the night for me - though that's an easy accolade to collect on the evidence of what I have just suffered.
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:20
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Wow, three cut out to accommodate Killing Joke!

(28) FOSTER & ALLEN – A Bunch Of Thyme
(44) THE BOOMTOWN RATS – House On Fire
(26) THE NOLANS – Don’t Love Me Too Hard (video)
They were all shockers to be honest. The Nolans' video wasn't worth the effort. The other pair ? Euch!!!!!
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:29
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at least it's finished on a high - and no I don't mean the goombay dance band!!
The only positive from an utterly abysmal edition.
Don't usually do marks out of /10, but it's a 2/10 from me.

The only track I bought from that edition at the time was PF2.

Kid Creole, Shalamar, Imagination, Patrice, Odyssey to the dance floor NOW !!!!
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:33
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There have been others such as "Since Many Years" in Fernando.
Understandable error. Many European languages use their word for 'since' rather than 'for' in the past tense. e.g I have been learning Italian since 3 years'.

Grammar lesson over - I'll test it next week some time.
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:34
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I asked the question which would people pick between the 2 and 'Seven Tears' is leading 'The Lion Sleeps Tonight' by 6-4 at the moment.
Make it 6-5 - unless I have voted already. TLST is preferable.
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:38
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Had over 1,000 sexual partners apparently.
Needed a lot of practice, then. Don Juan indeed.
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:40
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Well, it was a pretty poor edition of TOTP compared to last week when we had Classix Nouveau, Japan, Gary Numan, Visage and ABC.
The above, young man , is as fine an example of litotes as you could ever compose.
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:43
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Well - upon reflection - a very average TOTP tonight! Thank goodness the episode was saved by The Associates playout! 5/10 for me!
It would need 3 promotions to reach the giddy heights of 'very average' for me personally.
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:45
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Ooh, that song's pretty bad. The Scottish chart tends to mirror the UK chart as a whole. Ok, a new Proclaimers or Simple Minds album will peak higher on their first week but apart from that there's not much difference.

The one I remember was when 'Ding Dong, the Witch is Dead' charted after Margaret Thatcher's death. It entered at No.2 on the UK Chart but came in at No.1 on the Scottish chart.
We Scots, are renowned for our excellent taste, of course.
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:50
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According to the usual rules of TOTP we should have got another showing of Classic by Adrian Gurvitz. Still climbing in the charts and hadn't been on for two weeks. Lucky escape.
To be fair, 'Classic' would have fitted in perfectly with this week's edition. Had it been the play-out track instead of PF2, I'd have awarded this TOTP 1/10.
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:54
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You're definitely right about Baby Jump being obscure. And qualitywise, it does not sound like number 1 material at all. Was this chart position more a rebound hit off the back of In The Summer Time? It does not sound hugely commercial or memorable, but perhaps I am reacting to it like that precisely because it is very fresh to my ears and it needs more listens. Another one that has been rarely played over the years.
Looking forward to reading the Rich T review of the latest TOTP. I Hope that forum member Kit Kat also posts his thoughts on the edition.
''Baby Jump'' is very blues influenced, with the familiar chord sequence etc. of the likes of Muddy Waters and Howlin' Wolf etc, and i actually really like the song and performance, although it hasn't got the more typical song hooks, that usually guarantee a No 1 hit. It isn't the most radio friendly No 1 hit perhaps, but in a blues themed show, i believe it would go down very well. Mungo Jerry's follow up, ''Lady Rose'', perhaps had more hit potential with it being a little more melodic, but it didn't get beyond the top 5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydt8Yvyf2SM

The ''In The Summertime'' type sound proved rather popular at the beginning of the seventies, with The Mixtures scoring a huge No 2 hit in 1971, with what isn't far off being an exact copy, with ''The Pushbike Song''.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mry-izVfTSI

Even the likes of T Rex with ''Ride A White Swan'', aren't too far away from the Mungo Jerry's sound back in 1970.

The ''Double Barrel'' reggae track by Dave and Ansil Collins you mention, isn't that high profile in my opinion, despite it making No 1. Reggae still seemed a pretty elitist genre in the early seventies, before Bob Marley made his mark a little later. By the end of the seventies, reggae, and its related sounds, were dominating British pop for a good year or two, so its popularity did a complete about turn. It became to be seen as accessible to a mainstream audience, and was included on the regular DJ playlists frequently. It was pretty hard to miss!
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Old 27-08-2016, 10:56
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Yes it was, holding off the top five which featured:
Patti Labelle & Michael McDonald
Level 42
Peter Gabriel

Hope the re runs do extend to and beyond 86, thought snooker loopy was on its way to the number 1 spot
Not a bad top 5 : well 3 out of the 5 are very acceptable.
If the TOTP editions do reach 1986, I can't wait for all the analysis about why 1986 is the start of the downfall of music to start all over again on here. Should be a lot of fun!
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Old 27-08-2016, 11:15
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While we are waiting for the next edition of TOTP 1982, got an interesting question for all you pop pickers.

We all know that some tunes have been dreadfully overplayed and become totally stale as a result, where your concentration just switches off when you hear it e.g. Come on Eileen from 1982 and Karma Chameleon and Red Red Wine from 1983.
But looking at youtube the other day, I was amazed to find a number one single from 1971 that I am certain I had never heard before. It was by Dave and Ansell Collins and called 'Double Barrel.' It sounded absolutely fantastic. The TOTP performance of it is exhilarating and energetic and it was just so refreshing to stumble across something that I am quite sure many people have never heard because of a complete lack of radio play in recent decades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hy-_voUuDQ

Anyone care to suggest other tunes that were number ones or big hits in their day but that people might not have heard of because they are lost gems or were undeserving bit hits?
Have to admit Gary, it will depend on your age as to what you remember / don't remember. I myself remember well 'Double Barrel' and have it both on vinyl and on my pod. The follow-up 'Monkey Spanner' ironically never seems to get any airplay despite getting to No.7 back in 71. Elvis Presley's 'Surrender' is rarely played despite being a No.1 for the King. 'Baby Jump' by Mungo Jerry is another 1971 chart topper which gets overshadowed by its predecessor. Interesting question.

Edit - just spotted all the references to 'Baby Jump'. Crikey ... great minds etc...
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Old 27-08-2016, 11:19
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The only positive from an utterly abysmal edition.
Don't usually do marks out of /10, but it's a 2/10 from me.

The only track I bought from that edition at the time was PF2.

Kid Creole, Shalamar, Imagination, Patrice, Odyssey to the dance floor NOW !!!!
Have you heard Heaven 17's version of Party Fears Two from a few years ago? It's a lovely take on the track.

https://youtu.be/mj4of1kGhYs
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Old 27-08-2016, 11:27
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Yes, Clare, I would have thought that Angel Fingers is another huge number 1 hit that many people may not have heard or many would not easily remember how it goes..
Wizzard's finest.
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Old 27-08-2016, 11:29
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Just watched the full edition.

I think I detected a moment of almost bitchiness from Peter Powell - after Garth Crooks had introduced "Buck Fizz", Peter came out with "as Garth said, that was BuckS Fizz".

The Foster & Allen song was pleasant enough but went on a bit. Last knockings of the Boomtown Rats, sounding like they're jumping on the reggae/2 Tone bandwagon two years too late. I remember hearing this song at the time, but it's pretty thin. Average effort from The Nolans, with only its saucy title of note (although Garth called it "Don't Push Me Too Hard").

Killing Joke could hardly have looked less excited to be there. I kind of liked bits of the verse, but the chorus seems to come in from a completely different song and it doesn't really hang together.

Kudos to the subtitle person for trying to keep up with the intricate interweaving vocals on "My Camera Never Lies", and for subtitling Peter's "She's a cracker!" line as "As Frank Carson:"
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Old 27-08-2016, 11:30
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Make it 6-5 - unless I have voted already. TLST is preferable.
6-6 - much as I can't stand Tight Fit, it's still better than Primark Boney M!
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