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Links to the full show for 15/4/82, complete with added JK.
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A very early riser from me...
For those on here who may not have seen this before, which was me until not long ago, here is a programme called Stars Re-United from 2003 on the BBC, re-uniting Top Of The Pops people. I have no memory of it at all but it's worth placing on here I think for anyone interested. A certain well known 1982 studio incident gets a mention. Also for Highlander Ian in particular I want to draw your attention to the audience member asking Savile a question at 49mins 40 secs into the programme. https://youtu.be/4M2oVdyh9a0 |
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Links to the full show for 15/4/82, complete with added JK.
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'Shakatak ain't nothing but bad elevator muzak'. Plinkey, plonkey, plinkey, plonkey. Talking of which, I think I'd prefer 3 minutes of Les Dawson.
Having two vaguely similar sounding names of groups (Shakatak and Shalamar) from the 80s was confusing. The music itself couldn't be any different. Both groups tended to pass me by at the time. But I certainly remember night birds and not being fussed at all. Hearing Shalamar's songs in the intervening years, they are certainly miles better. |
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'Ever So Lonely' by Monsoon is one of those records that has been rarely played on radio sine the time of its release. I thought I did not know the song, just looking at the title, but once it started on the TOTP edition, I immediately recognised it.
Hasn't David Van Day been doing charitable works by performing around old people's homes singing 50s and 60s stuff to help alzheimers and dementia sufferers? He can't be all bad, despite his narcissistic argumentativeness. The tabloids gave him a bad press even for that, by saying some residents were falling asleep while he performed Dollar songs. 'More Than This' by Roxy Music has great melodic verses but is let down by a weak chorus. Loved Bucks Fizz, Bardo and Simple Minds from this edition. |
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I think it is hard to claim that the charts are very good on the one hand, but the songs selected for Top Of The Pops, are rubbish. I find 1982 much less consistent, but the right combination, like on this week's show actually has the potential to work well. I find it much easier to pick ten songs i love from 1982, than i do from 81, but that doesn't stop me thinking the general quality has diminished somewhat..
I really like the charts in 1982 and i fully appreciate that you're not so keen but i guess it's all down to personal taste. Quote:
And with the England 1982 squad entering the charts, we must only be a few weeks away from one of the greatest world cup songs appearing. BA Robertson, John Gordon Sinclair and the Scotland World Cup squad. We have a Dream, but maybe I'm a wee bit biased!
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I noticed that Dollar's Theresa wasn't wearing her engagement ring last night - had she & David split up in the romantic sense by this point?
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'Shakatak ain't nothing but bad elevator muzak'. Plinkey, plonkey, plinkey, plonkey. Talking of which, I think I'd prefer 3 minutes of Les Dawson.
Having two vaguely similar sounding names of groups (Shakatak and Shalamar) from the 80s was confusing. The music itself couldn't be any different. Both groups tended to pass me by at the time. But I certainly remember night birds and not being fussed at all. Hearing Shalamar's songs in the intervening years, they are certainly miles better. |
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I think it's fair to say that sometimes the songs shown on TOTP are poor compared to the quality of the charts. It's happened occasionally since the repeats have started and others have commented on it. Coming up there's going to be an episode with 3 football songs on it, i'm sure there were better songs in the charts that week.
I really like the charts in 1982 and i fully appreciate that you're not so keen but i guess it's all down to personal taste. I do miss the New Wave and the Disco sounds, from a couple of years previously, mind. |
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Night Birds was very good, and so much more than bad elevator muzac.
So who went into Virgin Records, HMV, Woollies, WHSmith or an independent record store at the time and asked for the new single by Shakatak and got Night Birds when they really wanted I Can Make You Feel Good? |
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(JK's USA segment follows the Dollar song.)
Its from the just shown Kid Jensen ep, but 'spoilers' anyway, and thanks for those links. My saved copy of the Popscene website makes no mention of his report.. http://s15.postimg.org/7bsau6dd7/15_4_82.png so thanks again. http://s14.postimg.org/ufdh9ihzl/15_4_82.png Updating Popscene folder... Quote:
Having two vaguely similar sounding names of groups (Shakatak and Shalamar) from the 80s was confusing. The music itself couldn't be any different. Both groups tended to pass me by at the time. But I certainly remember night birds and not being fussed at all.
Hearing Shalamar's songs in the intervening years, they are certainly miles better. Quote:
But there is one other thing I have just got to bring up as it's been getting mentioned yet again, and it's this daft notion that there were people who seriously got Shakatak and Shalamar mixed up with each other just because they charted in the same period. I'm not accepting that any literate and intelligent person could ever get the two groups mixed up. No excuses whatsoever!
So who went into Virgin Records, HMV, Woollies, WHSmith or an independent record store at the time and asked for the new single by Shakatak and got Night Birds when they really wanted I Can Make You Feel Good? but Shakatak's Night Birds ain't that bad. |
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I really didn't mind the early weeks of 1982, but i feel the last month or two, has gone badly off the boil. Thankfully, i think following on from last week's better episode, the next few will also mark a continuation of the improvement, but perhaps that won't be the story longterm. The likes of Tight Fit and The Goombay Dance Band, hasn't cast a very good impression generally, for me, with them both making No 1, but that isn't the real reason 1982 has seemed rather mediocre of late. New acts and old, have been releasing rather uninspiring output, that also seems to have been clogging up the charts. Bucks Fizz "My Camera Never Lies" does stand out miles in terms of quality, and melodically, "Ebony And Ivory" stands out very well, too.
I do miss the New Wave and the Disco sounds, from a couple of years previously, mind. 1976. Save All Your Kisses For Me - Brotherhood Of Man, 6 endless weeks of babyish smooching. No Charge - JJ Barrie, 1 shortchanged week, not. Combine Harvester - Wurzels, 2 weeks too long. Needed harvesting before it hit top ten. Forever And Ever - Demis Roussos, 1 small week for the big man. Into '77 we go. Don't Give Up On Us - David Soul, for 4 criminal weeks for Hutch. Lucille - Kenny Rogers, 1 week of insipid country at the top in punk/jubilee month. Angelo - Brotherhood Of Man, an unwelcome return for 1 week in the week Elvis croaked. Float On - Floaters, 1 week for Russell Grants favourite single. Way Down - Elvis Presley, 5 posthumous weeks for this single which looked to be missing the forty until he made a good career move. Mull Of Kintyre - Wings, 9 hefty weeks and joint longest of the 70's for the epitome of traditional, a new song that instantly sounded ancient. Off to 1978 we skip merrily. Figaro - Brotherhood Of Man, 1 week of middle England pop that can never be unpicked. Matchstalk Men & Matchstalk Cats & Dogs, Brian & Michael, 3 weeks and I helped that and now regret it was my first bought tune when Kate Bush was debuting at the same time. Rivers Of Babylon - Boney M, 5 weeks for a song that should have sold 5 copies. Summer Nights - Olivia Newton-John & John Travolta, 7 weeks of "summer" retro in "autumn" in the new wave era, isn't that ironic on two levels. Mary's Boy Child - Boney M, 4 weeks of utter huge selling tradition for the masses. Now for our beloved 1979. Bright Eyes - Art Garfunkel, 6 weeks and the bestest seller of them all in '79 thanks to the wabbits. Aaah...Uugh. One Day At A Time - Lena Martell, 3 weeks but 21 days taken one by one. Only two worthies here but they still make up over 2 months of the year. Considered adding Dr Hook, and yes it's a bit MOR but a good one. Into the Eighties with 1980. Coward Of The County - Kenny Rogers, a 2 week stain on the start of the new decade. Together We Are Beautiful - Fern Kinney, 1 week but it should have been back in 1975. Working My Way Back To You - Detroit Spinners, 2 weeks but it should have worked back to 1974/5. What's Another Year - Johnny Logan, 2 weeks of this wet wet wet sounding song from the Johnny Rotten wannabe...not. Theme From MASH - Mash, 3 weeks for a ten year old song from an American show, Mr Edmonds to blame it seems. Crying - Don McLean, 3 weeks of this Orbison cover, keeping up the cutting edge so far. Feels Like I'm In Love - Kelly Marie, 2 weeks of S/A/W 1988 in 1980 via some odd reverse timewarp. There's No One Quite Like Grandma - That Choir, for 2 weeks. Pity the grandads at the time, left out. The grandma's should have been too. What nana's bought it, as in yellow fruit, not nannies. Gingerly onto '81. Shaddup You Face - Joe Dolce, 3 weeks and he never shut up and still can't be muted even now. This Ole House - Shakin' Stevens, 3 weeks of 50's retro. Green Door - Shakin' Stevens, 4 weeks of 50's retro. No slamming the door in Shaky's face yet. Japanese Boy - Aneka, 1 week of faux Oriental delight to stir fry the mind. Should've been Anneka Rice instead. Begin The Beguine - Julio Iglesias, 1 week of 1981's truest heart throb. Now it's 1982, and look what we have - Tight Fit and then Goombay Dance Band and you Jedikiah along with some others on here are having a bit of a TOTP meltdown at two consecutive lightweight No1 hits and acting as if the quality pop music world is about to cave in. WELL IT'S NOT. The second British invasion of America is just about to get underway for starters! Then come 1983 there are some staggeringly all time great UK No1 hit singles to look forward to, never mind the rest that never hit the top spot. Not to forget that there remain an enormous amount of brilliant disco tracks, although maybe disco/dance is a better genre pairing from mid '82 onwards, to come, many in Summer 1982 and even many more in Summer 1983. A true classic fave of mine from exactly a year from now being by Indeep. At least you agree with me about the supreme No1 that is Ebony & Ivory which goes against the grain on here. Chin up Jedikiah and stop looking at 1976-81 through overly rosy glasses. 1982-85 holds up very well.
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I think I would have done a better job myself!!Probably each - unless they were totally ripped off! If they had written their own songs like Abba they would've got a lot more!! |
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Let's just remember some of the classic No1 hits we have endured, I mean enjoyed, since spring 1976 and through the classic era shall we....
1976. Save All Your Kisses For Me - Brotherhood Of Man, 6 endless weeks of babyish smooching. No Charge - JJ Barrie, 1 shortchanged week, not. Combine Harvester - Wurzels, 2 weeks too long. Needed harvesting before it hit top ten. Forever And Ever - Demis Roussos, 1 small week for the big man. Into '77 we go. Don't Give Up On Us - David Soul, for 4 criminal weeks for Hutch. Lucille - Kenny Rogers, 1 week of insipid country at the top in punk/jubilee month. Angelo - Brotherhood Of Man, an unwelcome return for 1 week in the week Elvis croaked. Float On - Floaters, 1 week for Russell Grants favourite single. Way Down - Elvis Presley, 5 posthumous weeks for this single which looked to be missing the forty until he made a good career move. Mull Of Kintyre - Wings, 9 hefty weeks and joint longest of the 70's for the epitome of traditional, a new song that instantly sounded ancient. Off to 1978 we skip merrily. Figaro - Brotherhood Of Man, 1 week of middle England pop that can never be unpicked. Matchstalk Men & Matchstalk Cats & Dogs, Brian & Michael, 3 weeks and I helped that and now regret it was my first bought tune when Kate Bush was debuting at the same time. Rivers Of Babylon - Boney M, 5 weeks for a song that should have sold 5 copies. Summer Nights - Olivia Newton-John & John Travolta, 7 weeks of "summer" retro in "autumn" in the new wave era, isn't that ironic on two levels. Mary's Boy Child - Boney M, 4 weeks of utter huge selling tradition for the masses. Now for our beloved 1979. Bright Eyes - Art Garfunkel, 6 weeks and the bestest seller of them all in '79 thanks to the wabbits. Aaah...Uugh. One Day At A Time - Lena Martell, 3 weeks but 21 days taken one by one. Only two worthies here but they still make up over 2 months of the year. Considered adding Dr Hook, and yes it's a bit MOR but a good one. Into the Eighties with 1980. Coward Of The County - Kenny Rogers, a 2 week stain on the start of the new decade. Together We Are Beautiful - Fern Kinney, 1 week but it should have been back in 1975. Working My Way Back To You - Detroit Spinners, 2 weeks but it should have worked back to 1974/5. What's Another Year - Johnny Logan, 2 weeks of this wet wet wet sounding song from the Johnny Rotten wannabe...not. Theme From MASH - Mash, 3 weeks for a ten year old song from an American show, Mr Edmonds to blame it seems. Crying - Don McLean, 3 weeks of this Orbison cover, keeping up the cutting edge so far. Feels Like I'm In Love - Kelly Marie, 2 weeks of S/A/W 1988 in 1980 via some odd reverse timewarp. There's No One Quite Like Grandma - That Choir, for 2 weeks. Pity the grandads at the time, left out. The grandma's should have been too. What nana's bought it, as in yellow fruit, not nannies. Gingerly onto '81. Shaddup You Face - Joe Dolce, 3 weeks and he never shut up and still can't be muted even now. This Ole House - Shakin' Stevens, 3 weeks of 50's retro. Green Door - Shakin' Stevens, 4 weeks of 50's retro. No slamming the door in Shaky's face yet. Japanese Boy - Aneka, 1 week of faux Oriental delight to stir fry the mind. Should've been Anneka Rice instead. Begin The Beguine - Julio Iglesias, 1 week of 1981's truest heart throb. Now it's 1982, and look what we have - Tight Fit and then Goombay Dance Band and you Jedikiah along with some others on here are having a bit of a TOTP meltdown at two consecutive lightweight No1 hits and acting as if the quality pop music world is about to cave in. WELL IT'S NOT. The second British invasion of America is just about to get underway for starters! Then come 1983 there are some staggeringly all time great UK No1 hit singles to look forward to, never mind the rest that never hit the top spot. Not to forget that there remain an enormous amount of brilliant disco tracks, although maybe disco/dance is a better genre pairing from mid '82 onwards, to come, many in Summer 1982 and even many more in Summer 1983. A true classic fave of mine from exactly a year from now being by Indeep. At least you agree with me about the supreme No1 that is Ebony & Ivory which goes against the grain on here. Chin up Jedikiah and stop looking at 1976-81 through overly rosy glasses. 1982-85 holds up very well. ![]() Pop generally in 1982, to my ears, seems to be getting very bland. |
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Yes it was each. The guy from Bardo, cant remember his name, was supposed to be in Bucks Fizz but changed his mind. Don't know why, maybe he didn't want to go blonde! Bobby McVay was the second choice, finally they settled on Bobby Gee.
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I see from the Radio time that TOTP82 is back to 2 eps a week next week.
I been interested by the fact that we have seen every April 82 episode I guess that explains the odd variation in quality of eps recently, given that for the last few years of eps have mostly had at least one banned episode a month, maybe its always been like that but just not noticed. |
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Re Jedkiah's comments - I also agree. I know there are a lot of great songs in 1982 & 83 - but many bands by then had lost their edginess & alternative sound in favour of a trendy look or teenage appeal. I feel much like today, pressure was on to look good rather than sound good. Think back to the charts of the late 70s. There were a lot of plain ( or even dare I say - ugly ) acts on the Pops - but the quality of some of the songs was fab!
The early 80s still had great songs - but by the mid 80s, the emphasis was definitely more on image!! |
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Now it's 1982, and look what we have - Tight Fit and then Goombay Dance Band and you Jedikiah along with some others on here are having a bit of a TOTP meltdown at two consecutive lightweight No1 hits and acting as if the quality pop music world is about to cave in. WELL IT'S NOT. The second British invasion of America is just about to get underway for starters! Then come 1983 there are some staggeringly all time great UK No1 hit singles to look forward to, never mind the rest that never hit the top spot. Not to forget that there remain an enormous amount of brilliant disco tracks, although maybe disco/dance is a better genre pairing from mid '82 onwards, to come, many in Summer 1982 and even many more in Summer 1983. A true classic fave of mine from exactly a year from now being by Indeep.
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According to GB's profile he was 7 at the time....
but Shakatak's Night Birds ain't that bad. |
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Let's just remember some of the classic No1 hits we have endured, I mean enjoyed, since spring 1976 and through the classic era shall we....
1976. Save All Your Kisses For Me - Brotherhood Of Man, 6 endless weeks of babyish smooching. No Charge - JJ Barrie, 1 shortchanged week, not. Combine Harvester - Wurzels, 2 weeks too long. Needed harvesting before it hit top ten. Forever And Ever - Demis Roussos, 1 small week for the big man. Into '77 we go. Don't Give Up On Us - David Soul, for 4 criminal weeks for Hutch. Lucille - Kenny Rogers, 1 week of insipid country at the top in punk/jubilee month. Angelo - Brotherhood Of Man, an unwelcome return for 1 week in the week Elvis croaked. Float On - Floaters, 1 week for Russell Grants favourite single. Way Down - Elvis Presley, 5 posthumous weeks for this single which looked to be missing the forty until he made a good career move. Mull Of Kintyre - Wings, 9 hefty weeks and joint longest of the 70's for the epitome of traditional, a new song that instantly sounded ancient. Off to 1978 we skip merrily. Figaro - Brotherhood Of Man, 1 week of middle England pop that can never be unpicked. Matchstalk Men & Matchstalk Cats & Dogs, Brian & Michael, 3 weeks and I helped that and now regret it was my first bought tune when Kate Bush was debuting at the same time. Rivers Of Babylon - Boney M, 5 weeks for a song that should have sold 5 copies. Summer Nights - Olivia Newton-John & John Travolta, 7 weeks of "summer" retro in "autumn" in the new wave era, isn't that ironic on two levels. Mary's Boy Child - Boney M, 4 weeks of utter huge selling tradition for the masses. Now for our beloved 1979. Bright Eyes - Art Garfunkel, 6 weeks and the bestest seller of them all in '79 thanks to the wabbits. Aaah...Uugh. One Day At A Time - Lena Martell, 3 weeks but 21 days taken one by one. Only two worthies here but they still make up over 2 months of the year. Considered adding Dr Hook, and yes it's a bit MOR but a good one. Into the Eighties with 1980. Coward Of The County - Kenny Rogers, a 2 week stain on the start of the new decade. Together We Are Beautiful - Fern Kinney, 1 week but it should have been back in 1975. Working My Way Back To You - Detroit Spinners, 2 weeks but it should have worked back to 1974/5. What's Another Year - Johnny Logan, 2 weeks of this wet wet wet sounding song from the Johnny Rotten wannabe...not. Theme From MASH - Mash, 3 weeks for a ten year old song from an American show, Mr Edmonds to blame it seems. Crying - Don McLean, 3 weeks of this Orbison cover, keeping up the cutting edge so far. Feels Like I'm In Love - Kelly Marie, 2 weeks of S/A/W 1988 in 1980 via some odd reverse timewarp. There's No One Quite Like Grandma - That Choir, for 2 weeks. Pity the grandads at the time, left out. The grandma's should have been too. What nana's bought it, as in yellow fruit, not nannies. Gingerly onto '81. Shaddup You Face - Joe Dolce, 3 weeks and he never shut up and still can't be muted even now. This Ole House - Shakin' Stevens, 3 weeks of 50's retro. Green Door - Shakin' Stevens, 4 weeks of 50's retro. No slamming the door in Shaky's face yet. Japanese Boy - Aneka, 1 week of faux Oriental delight to stir fry the mind. Should've been Anneka Rice instead. Begin The Beguine - Julio Iglesias, 1 week of 1981's truest heart throb. Now it's 1982, and look what we have - Tight Fit and then Goombay Dance Band and you Jedikiah along with some others on here are having a bit of a TOTP meltdown at two consecutive lightweight No1 hits and acting as if the quality pop music world is about to cave in. WELL IT'S NOT. The second British invasion of America is just about to get underway for starters! Then come 1983 there are some staggeringly all time great UK No1 hit singles to look forward to, never mind the rest that never hit the top spot. Not to forget that there remain an enormous amount of brilliant disco tracks, although maybe disco/dance is a better genre pairing from mid '82 onwards, to come, many in Summer 1982 and even many more in Summer 1983. A true classic fave of mine from exactly a year from now being by Indeep. At least you agree with me about the supreme No1 that is Ebony & Ivory which goes against the grain on here. Chin up Jedikiah and stop looking at 1976-81 through overly rosy glasses. 1982-85 holds up very well. ![]() Italics: Strongly disagree Others: more neutral |
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Fantastic Monsoon track Ever So Lonely. Definitely a forgotten hidden 1982 gem. I actually remember it being done by Monsoon on Blue Peter while it was a hit.
As Jedikiah has pointed out, Sheila Chandra would have been known to some viewers from Grange Hill, where she played Sudhamani Patel. Here's an interview with her - she's quite funny about her time on the show! https://grangehillgold.wordpress.com...ni-patel-s2-4/ |
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Top notch. Simple Minds were brilliant up to and including this album. Beyond that, horrible.
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I totally agree with this and I'm so relieved that I'm not the only one who thinks this!
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Pop generally in 1982, to my ears, seems to be getting very bland. Bland that lot ain't. |
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Have you both forgotten what you were told not to? Easily my favourite Simple Minds single.
For me, post-1982, Simple Minds descend into a kind of sub-U2, pompous mess. Such a shame. But each to their own!
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I think I would have done a better job myself!!