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**** off Shaky.
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Marie, Shirley and Julie. Wonder which one was best lookin'?
![]() I never even realised 'Oh Julie' was another No 1 for Shaky - they all sound the same after a bit! ![]() Well - I've just got round to watching last night's episode & apart from The Stranglers & Haircut 100 it was a very average show. 5/10 for me! Let's hope 1982 starts picking up soon.
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'Physical' and 'Waiting For A Girl Like You' were numbers 1 and 2 for only 9 weeks though! The first week that 'Physical' was at number 1, number 2 was 'Private Eyes' by Hall and Oates, on its way down from the top. Foreigner were at number 3 and climbed to number 2 the following week. The tenth week 'Waiting For A Girl Like You' was at number 2 was when 'I Can't Go For That (No Can Do)' by Hall and Oates was at the top, climbing from number 4 to 1, leapfrogging Foreigner who had their last week at number 2. Olivia Newton-John fell from number 1 to 4 that same week.
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Yes, there is still the question of whether he is really the singer, though. I think those who seem to be promoting the song have little to do with the recording.
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OMD were really getting into their stride.
Some top tunes, great stuff. |
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Back at last, having done a huge 1,000 post catch up. Enjoy/endure this MEGA multi-quote of 46 posts. ![]() Quote:
With the 1982 shows I hope to begin to watch ToTP's again, and contribute to the 1982 thread more often.
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The Jam in Feb of that year, Town called Malice/Precious was no 1 on my 14th birthday; that was the start of my Paul Weller obsession; loved The gift album as well.
Poison Arrow ABC still sounds very fresh I thought and Martin Fry looked great. Can't stand Come On Eileen, one of the most overplayed songs of all time. Quote:
I am enjoying these Zoo routines far more than Legs and co's. Controversial on here I know what with all you Sue worshippers
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The one thing i do notice in previewing some of these 1982 episodes, is how much more in the spirit of Legs & Co. several of the Zoo dance routines appear. Zoo weren't just predominantly about posing, and appearing flamboyant. I am not sure whether those more traditional routines were already part of Zoo's act from the start, or whether the opinion of the audience may have accounted for them being included. A lot, of course, also depends on the song.
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Can I ask what your Twitter handle is? Mine is Richupton1970
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Shakatak. Nice elevator musak.
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Always liked Shakatak but not Shalamar!
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Not a bad edition so far.
I quite liked the Alton Edwards song back in the day but his vocals and the music sounded a bit flat here. Or flatpack, given what I've just read about his IKEA shenanigans! I love 'Drowning In Berlin'. A nice, quirky song that kicked off 1982 in fine style. Oh Sue, where are you? Without her presence 'I'll Find My way Home' doesn't sound half as good. It certainly doesn't look half as good. Drowning In Berlin by The Mobiles is another candidate for best singles of 1982 in my opinion. Just fabulous. Quote:
Way to go, some muscle men to ruin a great Madness song!
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That has to have a point absolutely deducted for the posing body builders at the end! I mean, what the hell was that all about?
Enjoyed Yellow Pearl, Meatloaf/Cher and The Mobiles, little else of interest to me tonight. I'm bored of the HL song. Very, very average show. 5/10. Far better coming up next week which I'll catch up with in due course. No way was it an average show though. Quote:
I notice nobody stayed up for the very slightly longer late night edition, it was on way too late mind.
Only extra was a short in concert clip of Foreigner which was so poor it did no favours to the song, which on record is divine. The lush keyboard intro of the studio version is played by Thomas Dolby, sadly he's not on stage in this clip. I found the video and audio clip of Foreigner to be very poor indeed and it hardly sold this wonderful track in the best light and must have affected some on the fence sales. For some reason I always thought there was a different video to Waiting For A Girl For You. I'm sure I recall something more polished, not a live stage one. Quote:
I think those of us that were up at the time were probably busy witnessing the UK going to hell in a hand cart.
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Well we are watching the music and fashions of 1982, why not experience the economy of 1982 as well?
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just watched the jan 14th DLT hosted show and zoo totally ruin it, why did they need to stick them into the performances of shakin stevens and the stranglers
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It is always great to see an appearance by Elkie Brooks. It had been a while since the end of her last run of hits, although i am not sure her version of ''Fool If You Think It's Over'' adds much to Chris Rea's original, but i think it is always nice to hear her sing. Shame this was her last moderately sized hit until 86. Shakin' Stevens ''Oh Julie'' for me, is easily the weakest of his hits up to this point despite it reaching No 1. It was also the first hit he wrote himself, although i still find it mildly infectious, all the same.
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Top of the Pops 7th January 1982 Our head 'Zoo-keeper' for this evening's events is Peter Powell. Tune in tonight for more countdown capers pop pickers! ![]() ![]() Quote:
What a week - first we're out the EU & now no TOTP!!
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Love this ELO track. Nice to hear them tonight after their great Glastonbury set. The 'best of' album's just hit the million sales mark this week.
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An ELO track I haven't a clue about. Don't remember it at all
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I'd enjoy this XTC performance more if Andy Partridge didn't bear a striking resemblance in it to a technology teacher I hated at my old secondary school.
Great song though. Senses Working Overtime is just a great title and a great single and it never dates. Liked this XTC appearance on TOTP very much. Quote:
'Arthur's theme' takes me straight back to early 1982. Shiver down the spine stuff.
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Who is Christopher Cross reminding me of? Seth Rogen?
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If you get caught between the moon and New York City, your map reading skills leave a lot to be desired
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Yay for 'Land of Make Believe'. Great No.1. Is this the performance that Cheryl gets dragged up to the stratosphere?
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Weren't Bucks Fizz great? Proper pop band.
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I know, I wonder how he felt about the 'kid' thing. I'm sure it would pee me off quite quickly if it was me.
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Nice to see 'One Of Us' making your Top 10. Slipping down the 1982 chart at the moment after peaking at No.3 over Christmas '81.
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Excellent tracks. The 'Super Trouper' and 'The Visitors' albums are pretty amazing. So glad they went out on a high.
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'I'll Find My Way Home' always reminds me more of 1981 than '82.
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Great to see the 'Yellow Pearl' video. Shame it didn't get any higher than 14.
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This edition is from the night before my 9th birthday
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Christopher Cross represented everything thing that was wrong with American pop at this time. Insipid, unsexy, middle aged, middle of the road. He was huge over there ... we had Adam Ant and they had this falsetto-voiced eunuch !
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I'm looking forward to Night Birds entering the charts. I could listen to that all night long.
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I'm not that familiar with Ticket To The Moon and found it quite dreary. The dacne routine didn't do much to hold my interest either.
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One consequence of the Jonathan King segments being edited out is that there will be a few US songs appearing in the charts shortly which will seem to have come out of nowhere, e.g. J.Geils Band "Centerfold", which would probably have got nowhere near our top 40 had JK not featured it in his roundup.
Looking ahead a few weeks - what on earth is this - a Bucks Fizz parody? No memory at all of it. CHAMPAGNE D’ORANGE – C’est Seulement Une Wynd Oop (video) Champagne D'orange, is that a joke or real? Quote:
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Top of the Pops 14th January 1982 Following last Weeks' display of Circus/Fairground-themed events which are now permanently etched in my cerebral cortex and not in a good way, a marginally more restrained & dignified event this episode as our head Zoo-keeper for this evening's entertainment is the stoic DLT. Tune in tonight for more countdown capers pop pickers! ![]() Quote:
What a fantastic episode, though. After a crap start with Gillan's tedious metal-by-numbers we had a string of wonderfully crafted pop songs all the way to the end - Jon & Vangelis, Phil Lynott (where was Midge?), ELO, Meat Loaf, XTC, OMD. Even the cheesier end of things with Foreigner, Chris Cross and Bucks Fizz was a showcase for some classic 80s tunes.
In fact the whole thing (minus Gillan and the dreary Shakatak track bookending the show) played like a compilation of the best of the 80s, all in one show. An easy 8/10 for me. Quote:
Just outside the Top 40 this week for 'Lion Sleeps Tonight'. Wonder how we'll feel about it when it gets to it's 5th appearance?
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Hands up who'd totally forgotten this ONJ track?
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I really love Landslide, better than Physical IMO. One of the most underrated songs of 1982. I don't think it got very far in the charts.
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It's not one of her best known tracks. It'll be jumping in and out of the Top 40 in the next editions.
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Maybe one day I'll find the appeal of Haircut 100. It's taking a while though!
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One of my least favourite number ones of the 80s. Sorry Shaky. Would have preferred either Kraftwerk or the Stranglers to be number one this week.
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Did he say that was Shaky's 3rd consecutive number 1?
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They won it for Shaky!
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Shaky was definitely on the slide, i'd say, despite ''Oh Julie'' making No 1.
Songs like ''Oh Julie'', alongside Elkie Brooks ''Fool If You Think It's Over'' and Alton Edwards ''I Just Wanna'', aren't perhaps the most inspiring of tracks, but they also aren't truly bad. It seems unbelievable to think Tight Fit's ''The Lion Sleeps Tonight'' actually managed to reach No 1, and stay there for three weeks, when the charts were still fairly inspiring, on the whole. It seems like an early example of the charts becoming dominated by disposable pop, as they have been in the last decade or two. You talk about disposable pop in this period. I agree on Tight Fit. The worst kind of sham group. Disposable pop music is hardly new is it Jedikiah. Surely there was just as much disposable pop way back in the 1960's too. It's nothing unique to the 1980's. Wasn't all pop music meant to be ultimately disposable though at the beginning? It was never meant to be Mozart or Beethoven being heard down the centuries. Clearly some will indeed do so though. |
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![]() I never even realised 'Oh Julie' was another No 1 for Shaky - they all sound the same after a bit! ![]() Shaky's fourth and final No 1, will be "Merry Xmas Everyone" from Christmas 1985, although the original release date of 1984, was put back because of clashing with the Band Aid single. |
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that was some mega-quoting post by Rich Tea! I still can't work out how to multi-quote despite trying my best several times over the years I've been posting here at DS! ![]() Regarding Rich's mega quote post - I haven't got time to re quote it - but I must admit I found the forum referendum quote quite funny! Also - I would like to say I'm proud to be one of the few who remembers the great 'Ticket to the Moon' by ELO. - I am surprised they haven't included it on their latest Greatest Hits CD. |
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I think Shaky's sound increasingly begins to seem watered down, though. I believe his first two hits, "Hot Dog'', and "Marie Marie", have more to offer than "Oh Julie". There is some interesting more technical country slide guitar sounds that always grab me on "Hot Dog", and "Marie Marie" definitely has a harder rock 'n' roll edge. "Oh Julie" strikes me as merely a whimper by comparison. The public, though, went for his more lean take on rock 'n' roll more than anything. His biggest hits don't appear to show much diversity to his sound. "It's Raining" was different, and for me, was perhaps more satisfying than "Oh Julie". I wouldn't argue with the likes of "This Ole House" and "Green Door" making No 1, or "You Drive Me Crazy" reaching No 2, during 81, because i found them all highly effective, if they did lack a little of the more interesting instrumental sounds of, say, "Hot Dog". They had a little more rawness and vitality about them, which i think Shaky's later hits begin to lack. His most successful year was most definitely 1981. His success becomes more spotty thereafter.
Shaky's fourth and final No 1, will be "Merry Xmas Everyone" from Christmas 1985, although the original release date of 1984, was put back because of clashing with the Band Aid single. ![]() I enjoyed his duet with Bonnie Tyler & his Christmas hit isn't too bad either! |
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You really reckon that a quick TOTP segment propelled Centrefold all the way to the top three in the UK when it might never have been a hit at all otherwise?
I wouldn't say that the JK feature propelled Centerfold all the way into the top 3, but it got it the necessary exposure to get into the top 40, and picked up from there. |
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Finally getting the chance to comment on Friday's edition. Better music than Thruday's and dare I admit I don't mind Simes, despite his mistakes. So it gets an 8 out of 10 from me. I got hold of a copy of this edition a couple of months ago when it was clear we wouldn't be seeing in full.
It's always better to start of the edition with something upbeat and fun, rather than something like Gillan's Restless, and Tight Fit certainly fit the bill. I thought Simes might have mentioned the change of line up from their last appearance. I still can't help but like The Lion Sleeps Tonight even though we now know it was a sham and they don't even sing on the record. At least they made up for this with the excellent Fantasy Island. I do like ONJ's Landslide, though I think its fair that it didn't make top 10 like Physical did. As for the video, I haven't made up my mind yet if it falls into the "so bad its good" category or if it's just bad! Simes seemed genuinely pleased that Haircut 100 were back with their second hit and I won't argue with that. The intro is so memorable and that alone makes it an 80s classic. I read that Love Plus One is supposed about the Falklands Conflict. I don't think we'll be seeing Golden Brown again and, great song it is, I'm not sorry about that. I've seen/heard it enough for the time being. I was struggling to remember the Stiff Little Fingers song until it got to the chorus, which is quite melodic. It's a shame the rest of song isn't as memorable as that. Not sure if the JK segment has shown up online yet. If it hasn't I'm sure it will. The Hall and Oates interview is cringey and the only thing of note to me is that it was filmed at World Trade Centre. I'm glad that Elkie Brooks wasn't completely yewtreed. I'd say hers is my fave version of Fool If You Think Its over. The Popscene site doesn't have it listed as a repeat, but it looked like the same performance to me. Mr Ikea fraudester back in the studio again. When he was singing I Just Wanna Spend Some Time With You, I'm sure he wasn't referring to prison cell! While Oh Julie is by no means by fave Shaky hit, I don't begrudge him his week at No. 1 with this. At least this was a song he wrote himself and not a cover. Always enjoy hearing Don't Walk Away, though it would've been nice to see the vid again instead of it being danced as the playout song. |
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Simes seemed genuinely pleased that Haircut 100 were back with their second hit and I won't argue with that. The intro is so memorable and that alone makes it an 80s classic. I read that Love Plus One is supposed about the Falklands Conflict.
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I think that whoever came up with the idea of Love Plus One being about the Falklands is overlooking the fact that it was released in 1981....a full six months or more before the conflict!
'Shipbuilding' by Robert Wyatt (and written by Elvis Costello) which made number 35 a year later in 1983 was though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Res3-YX4X8g |
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Funnily enough - I preferred Shaky's later hits to his earlier rockabilly ones - even though I prefer the early 80s to the later 80s!!
![]() I enjoyed his duet with Bonnie Tyler & his Christmas hit isn't too bad either! |
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I seem to remember the JK segment as being quite influential to our charts at the time - would Hall & Oates have had their run of hits over here without having been featured several times in that slot? The Kinks hadn't had a top 40 hit in over a decade before JK featured "Come Dancing" as a US hit - indeed it had even been released over here the year before without success - but after the JK feature it became a hit.
I wouldn't say that the JK feature propelled Centerfold all the way into the top 3, but it got it the necessary exposure to get into the top 40, and picked up from there. |
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Being Boiled by The Human League got to number 6 but I think it was only given a play-out on the 14th January episode. Seems a bit unfair to penalise it for being a 1978 single.
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Christopher Cross represented everything thing that was wrong with American pop at this time. Insipid, unsexy, middle aged, middle of the road. He was huge over there ... we had Adam Ant and they had this falsetto-voiced eunuch !
Personally, 'Arthur's Theme' leaves me cold (certainly not Burt Bacharach's or Carole Bayer Sager's finest, by a long chalk) - but I do like Cross' 'Ride Like The Wind' from 1981. Cross may have better heard than seen, but that is a great track, which has just been made even greater by Joey Negro on a recent remix compilation (very sympathetically done, in case CC fans are worried …) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEBGZn-FqDs |
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On the other hand Hall and Oates were about to release I Can't Go For That (No Can Do) which some people credit as the beginnings of hip-hop music.
![]() I'm not sure Hall & Oates can really eclipse the Sugarhill Gang, Kurtis Blow or Grandmaster Flash … or even Bondie and The Clash, for that matter!
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The original version of 'Xanadu' is another one that never seems to appear on compilations, apart from 'Light Years' about 10 years ago.
A later ELO Greatest Hits compilation featured Jeff doing his own vocals on a slower version. A contractual issue between ELO & Livvy's management, or is Jeff being a bit precious, as he never had a number one with his own vocals? (He doesn't perform his version live either!) |
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The original version of 'Xanadu' is another one that never seems to appear on compilations, apart from 'Light Years' about 10 years ago.
A later ELO Greatest Hits compilation featured Jeff doing his own vocals on a slower version. A contractual issue between ELO & Livvy's management, or is Jeff being a bit precious, as he never had a number one with his own vocals? (He doesn't perform his version live either!) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Olivias-Gre...ia+newton+john And also on this, more recent ONJ compilation … https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gold-Olivia...ia+newton+john |
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I seem to remember the JK segment as being quite influential to our charts at the time - would Hall & Oates have had their run of hits over here without having been featured several times in that slot? The Kinks hadn't had a top 40 hit in over a decade before JK featured "Come Dancing" as a US hit - indeed it had even been released over here the year before without success - but after the JK feature it became a hit.
I wouldn't say that the JK feature propelled Centerfold all the way into the top 3, but it got it the necessary exposure to get into the top 40, and picked up from there. What opened up British audiences to those acts was the sudden advent of promo videos, with white rock acts targeted at a male audience benefitting most from them … so King's US charts features on TOTP were a perfect platform for them. Radio listeners clearly weren't responding to multiple plays - but a distinctive video could hook an audience in … and duly did, in many cases. Unfortunately, as mb@2day rightly says, it was all coloured by King's own predilections, at a time when much of the more inventive US music wasn't in the Billboard Top 20, yet would often find popularity here (Kid Creole & The Coconuts spring immediately to mind). Those segments also denied exposure to UK acts who arguably had greater need of it. Personally, I don't think they ever felt a real part of the TOTP format, and I'd've been happier had they never come to pass. The only upside of the edits now being made to the BBC Four repeats is that we won't see them, thanks to King's misdemeanours (alleged or otherwise). |
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It's always better to start of the edition with something upbeat and fun, rather than something like Gillan's Restless, and Tight Fit certainly fit the bill. I still can't help but like The Lion Sleeps Tonight even though we now know it was a sham and they don't even sing on the record.
I read that Love Plus One is supposed about the Falklands Conflict. I don't think we'll be seeing Golden Brown again and, great song it is, I'm not sorry about that. I've seen/heard it enough for the time being. Tight Fit's ''The Lion Sleeps Tonight'' being immediately followed by The Goombay Dance Band's ''Seven Tears'', at the top of the charts, got me wondering at the time whether the number ones of 1982, were seriously going to pot for a while. Then a little later it was the turn of Captain Sensible's ''Happy Talk'', followed at the end of the year by Renee And Renato! I actually don't mind Renee And Renato, and it was Christmas also. However, a little like 1981, 82's No 1's weren't very representative at times of the quality 1982 had to offer. Not a vintage year for No 1 singles (although there is the odd cracker here and there along the way)! |
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Tight Fit's ''The Lion Sleeps Tonight'' being immediately followed by The Goombay Dance Band's ''Seven Tears'', at the top of the charts, got me wondering at the time whether the number ones of 1982, were seriously going to pot for a while. Then a little later it was the turn of Captain Sensible's ''Happy Talk'', followed at the end of the year by Renee And Renato! I actually don't mind Renee And Renato, and it was Christmas also. However, a little like 1981, 82's No 1's weren't very representative at times of the quality 1982 had to offer. Not a vintage year for No 1 singles (although there is the odd cracker here and there along the way)! 1) I honestly thought the Goombay Dance band came out at the end of 1982 (around Christmas time) rather than near the beginning. 2) I had no idea 'The Model' by Kraftwerk was out in 1982 & always thought it was 1983 & 3) I was convinced 'Rio' by Duran Duran was a No 1 hit single, when it never even made the Top 5!! Anyway, I now find out I am wrong on all three facts & can only blame my 12 year old hormones, at the time for confusing things!
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I'm often very good at remembering times & dates of certain songs & when they were in the charts etc - I can even recall events from my past, due to when a certain song was out/released - however with 1982, I seem to have some strange memory lapses:-
1) I honestly thought the Goombay Dance band came out at the end of 1982 (around Christmas time) rather than near the beginning. 2) I had no idea 'The Model' by Kraftwerk was out in 1982 & always thought it was 1983 & 3) I was convinced 'Rio' by Duran Duran was a No 1 hit single, when it never even made the Top 5!! Anyway, I now find out I am wrong on all three facts & can only blame my 12 year old hormones, at the time for confusing things! ![]() After experiencing a bit of a barren patch with regards to me appreciating many of the sounds of the latter half of 1981, i can recall my ears pricking up significantly in early 1982, especially with the single releases of Kraftwerk's ''The Model'', The Jam's ''A Town Called Malice'', Soft Cell's ''Say Hello, Wave Goodbye'' and The Stranglers ''Golden Brown''. I can remember distinctly thinking things in pop were getting very interesting again. Not that i dislike the likes of Bucks Fizz, and The Human League etc. but these early 1982 single releases were really more to my taste (not that ''The Model'' was a new track, of course). It will be interesting to see, though, in more general terms, how these episodes will stack up with me now, compared with my thoughts in my teens. The first three episodes of 1982, i have enjoyed immensely, with just the last one i feel being a little mediocre. It is noticeable, though, how the dance troupe, Zoo, appeared to completely pass me by back then. They failed to garner any kind of recognition, or warm memories, for me. I agree with Rich Tea completely, in that their dancing conveys very little meaning, or connection to the songs, and that appears to be the real problem. It is like listening to, in a sense, many of these power ballad singers today, who go for spectacle over any type of emotional investment. It is all just flash over substance, which pretty much sums up Michael Hurll's interpretation of what Top Of The Pops should have been all about, too. I believe Duran Duran's title track, ''Rio'' was a late single release from their album, hence the reason it only made No 9 in the charts. Many fans by its October release date, had had close on six months to buy the album, so interest for the single wasn't so high. |
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Ursula, being a little older, i can perhaps remember 1982 a little better. However, The Goombay Dance Band track, does have a novelty feel, which is often associated with songs released around Christmas time.
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I believe Duran Duran's title track, ''Rio'' was a late single release from their album, hence the reason it only made No 9 in the charts. Many fans by its October release date, had had close on six months to buy the album, so interest for the single wasn't so high.
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