Interestingly, Simple Minds weren't the first choice for "Don't You Forget About Me". It was first offered to Bryan Ferry, who claimed he was too busy to record it. It doesn't actually seem like a good fit for Ferry, but I still reckon he must have been a bit sick when he saw how big a hit the song later became!

Goes to show that, just because you're a great movie critic, it doesn't automatically make you a good judge of music

Jim Kerr wasn't very good at lip-syncing.

BIB - Well it's interesting you should say that, because that quote is nowhere to be found in my copy of his Meditations...or any other copy for that matter.

That's the problem with sourcing information from the internet alone. So easy to be caught out by misattribution. But as Marcus Aurelius did actually say...


If someone can prove me wrong and show me my mistake in any thought or action, I shall gladly change. I seek the truth, which never harmed anyone: the harm is to persist in one's own self-deception and ignorance.

Meditations, 6.21

A few thought:
- a good show on the whole, I only fast forwarded Shakatak and Survivor.
- Mari Wilson song/act was quite refreshing and I liked her voice a lot.
- Paul Weller as a romantic lead nearly sent my 14 year old self into a meltdown . Definite move away from traditional Jam song/video.
- Favorite Minds album is Sparkle in the Rain. Just before they went stadium rock.
- "your lipstick and your lip gloss seal my fate" Classic line.
- talk talk good song but shou!d have sent the video in.
- Adam Ant, truly awful both song and video, he seems to be obsessed with himself
- Why, what a cracking tune, forgotten how good it was.

Highlight for me The Jam, although the end is high.

As mentioned previously, there's a Gary Glitter track in 1984 that might be edited out in a similar way.

Someone has done such a version of the potential edit somewhere on YouTube.

Yes I was thinking of saying that knowledge, and being humble and patient in seeking it, is the main thing. There will be quotes on that from famous names I guess, but the idea is what counts.

The potential problem with 'any opinion is good' is that it doesn't foster exploration and discussion, and just confirms to people that they are right as everyone is. It feeds egos rather than lessens them.

Music is a huge subject, with many different styles and cultures. It can't be summed up in some simple statement that someone is the best ever, or someone is the worst ever. If an effort is made in producing something then it deserves some effort in trying to understand it too.

Whatever the reason, lets hope it's not down to money.

If Sarah Greene doesn't feel able to allow repeats for personal reasons, then sadly we will have to respect her wishes, but if it's down to the residual payments, I do hope she's not slagged off on social media because of it, but it seems strange Tidybread got through on BBC4 but Mike Smith still had the power of veto?

Cheers Rich. I was sure that it did quite well in the chart. I have the cassette versions. It was one of those famous 'buy 1 get 1 free' offers (yeah, right) that were common at the time. It was a K-Tel release. They would always have that thing which said "To ensure the highest quality reproduction the running times of some of the titles have been amended".
Which basically meant the songs are gonna be shorter that you expected!

It was just over a year before the famous 'Now That's What I Call Music' arrived and wiped out these slightly inferior releases.

Chart Beat:
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Char...elease/2173049

Chart Heat:
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Char...elease/2163801

Thanks for the info faversham.

Mark had found a pair by the time they appeared on the Pops 4 years later. I liked his new long hair image.

Talk Talk 'Life's What You Make It' Top of the Pops:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnFd6aRUn2s

How do ypu know that is a fact and not an opinion?

I'm sure that's Eamonn Holmes over Simes shoulder right after Adam Ant. Thumbs up to you too Eamonn!

Culture Club next Thurs and TFF with mad dancing from Roland on Friday.

Quite shocking really that both It's My Life and Dum Dum Girl failed to make the Top 40 in 1984.

'I Know There's Something Going On' was written by Russ Ballard of Argent whose songwriting credits include 'Since You've Been Gone' and 'I Surrender' (Rainbow), 'So You Win Again' (Hot Chocolate) and 'You Can Do Magic' which was a U.S. hit in 1982 for the group America. The distinctive drumming on IKTSGO sounds like Phil Collins who as it happens produced the album and wrote one of the tracks. In 1984 I saw a TV documentary about the making of that record and recall Phil sitting behind the mixing desk listening to playback smoking a cheroot.


The Kid Jensen edition last week included two videos featuring two hit songs produced by Colin Thurston performed by two groups whose names comprised of the same two words repeated in succession .


He loved the sound of his own voice so much he habitually turned Japanese on stage.

http://www.japagirl.com.br/blog/wp-c...-talk-mark.jpg

I don't know the background to this as I haven't been able to keep up with all of this thread over the last few days, but I assume that Sarah Greene is blocking the showing of Mike Smith repeats? Seems a strange thing to do, she may personally find them too upsetting to watch, but why stop other people from seeing them? I also think (and apologies if this point has already been made) that it might backfire, as Mike Smith may, as a result, be associated by some with Savile and DLT if his shows aren't shown.

I don't think anything's certain yet Boz. It was suggested that Mike's November 4th edition wouldn't be shown. My listings don't go that far to confirm that. It would fall on Thursday December 15th and I have a feeling there might be a 'Sky at Night' on that evening.

If the Mike Smith edition IS skipped and there IS a 'Sky at Night' on December 15th then, with the skipped Yewtree'd editions, on Friday December 30th 2016, the December 23rd 1982 edition would be shown.This would be the last of the '82 available editions to show which would fit in perfectly to finish off 1982 on schedule.

This will all depend on the Mike Smith edition being shown.

Oh, that's cruel!

When was 'Talk Talk' by Talk Talk out? Have we missed it or has it been Yewtreed?

OMG - Simon Cowell has just said on the X Factor that 'The Winner Takes It All' is nearly 50 years old!!!!! - This is meant to be a man in the know & in the forefront of the music business!!! - Unless he's just very bad at maths!

He's only 14 years out.

Will definitely make me feel old when they can say it is 50 years old.

It's bad enough 80s stuff seem like 60s stuff used to seem to me when I the age I was in the 80s.

I don't believe Abba's music was ever held, when they were together, in the kind of esteem it is today. They were immensely popular, for sure, worldwide, but their songs were never really examined for their ingenuity. They sold an amazing amount of records, but their credibility was never especially high. The turning point, i believe, came initially when Erasure brought out their Abba covers EP in the early nineties, and their importance and critical appreciation has grown steadily ever since.

It hasn't been so far but unfortunately it will be on a DLT edition on 25th November 1982. It was first released in April but didn't get into the top 40. It was then re-released after the deserved success of Today.

Only 1 appearance which will be DLT'd but here's a decent quality clip of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfrEUPwZR-A

Edit: Oops, Andy beat me to it!