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If all you are looking for from Bowie is a"memorable tune" then it is possible that you would not really get his later material.
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People can be as arty as they want, but if a tune isn't memorable it is unlikely to be remembered.
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That's similar to me. I won't like most hip hop, that's for those who have bought into the whole culture of it. And that's how it is looked at often I think, not simply just music. But I can appreciate things here and there anyway as I made an effort to listen to older stuff and modern stuff and work out what I think is more creative or fresher (and separating what I think is just hyped).
Key things for me are a powerful voice (attitude), interesting rhythms, sometimes an interesting production and some catchiness. Sometimes that can be encouraged by good lyrics. It leads on from r&b music, and I think it can be looked at from that simple rhythmic energy, but also combined with an underground attitude which may be meant to shock those not ready for it. There are also more 'pop' songs around the world which incorporate a hip-hop element into them to add some attitude and energy, some can be quite successful from my experience. As with anything I just think it depends on how well it's done and not the style used per se. But for me that's from listening to music and not reading about it or watching something on it. Nothing beats listening to as much as possible. Words are pretty much pointless I think it's about adjusting the brain to have a better understanding of different styles. If I feel I can understand and appreciate some things of a style then I definitely think that's progress. Also I think the top 40, or even just a Western perspective, are limitations that may not always help |
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No idea, you tell me. In the meantime if you could desist from further racist postings it would be appreciated.
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Hello Andy.
Just to check, with that link, are you implying that either or both Pedrok and Littlegirlof7 are trolls? If so, then you and I have both very different opinions of what a troll is. Quote:
All I will say is this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BO8EpfyCG2Y and that's it. (Sorry late edit. Forgot to add a smiley) Just to check, with that link, are you implying that I am a racist? If so, then you and I have both very different opinions of what a racist is. |
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Just saw an article saying that Colonel Abrams died. He's probably best remembered in the UK by his 1985 hit 'Trapped'. Sounds like he had a sad end to his life.
![]() http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38129229 Colonel Abrams: 'Trapped' Top of the Pops. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNtjnoZmu84 |
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Bates outing himself as the embarrassing Dad - Shakatak were never even the best live act in the room, let alone the country.
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Was this the same singer in Survivor who sang on 'Burning Heart' from '86?
The lead singer of Burning Heart, Jimi someone, passed away a couple of years ago. SORRY -just realised someone else posted this. At least we said the same thing! |
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Rightee oh.
That is also going on my playlist as well. I reckon that the next two hours will fly by. |
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UK Top 75 Singles Chart for w/e 18th September 1982 - Broadcast Radio 1, DLT @ 12.45pm Tues 14th Sept 1982.
1. (1) Survivor - Eye Of The Tiger 2. (4) Dire Straits - Private Investigations 3. (2) Duran Duran - Save A Prayer 4. (5) Rocker's Revenge Featuring Donnie Calvin - Walking On Sunshine 5. (New) The Jam - The Bitterest Pill (I Ever Had To Swallow) 6. (8) ABC - All Of My Heart 7. (6) The Kids From 'Fame' Featuring Valerie Landsberg - Hi Fidelity 8. (13) Grandmaster Flash And The Furious Five - The Message 9. (3) Dexy's Midnight Runners With The Emerald Express - Come On Eileen 10. (17) Shalamar - There It Is 11. (11) Shakin' Stevens - Give Me Your Heart Tonight 12. (19) David Christie - Saddle Up 13. (9) Toto Coelo - I Eat Cannibals (Part 1) 14. (14) Talk Talk - Today 15. (7) Soft Cell - What 16. (12) Haircut 100 - Nobody's Fool 17. (24) Carly Simon - Why 18. (29) Evelyn King - Love Come Down 19. (10) Boystown Gang - Can't Take My Eyes Off You 20. (15) Modern Romance Featuring John du Prez - Cherry Pink And Apple Blossom White 21. (16) Sting - Spread A Little Happiness 22. (New) Adam Ant - Friend Or Foe 23. (21) Depeche Mode - Leave In Silence 24. (28) Shakatak - Invitations 25. (22) Tom Tom Club - Under The Boardwalk 26. (18) Haysi Fantayzee - John Wayne Is Big Leggy 27. (27) UB40 - So Here I Am 28. (38) Simple Minds - Glittering Prize 29. (20) Irene Cara - Fame 30. (23) Kool And The Gang - Big Fun 31. (40) Wonder Dogs - Ruff Mix 32. (31) Thomas Dolby - Windpower 33. (46) Chicago - Hard To Say I'm Sorry 34. (41) Jennifer Holliday - And I'm Telling You I'm Not Going 35. (33) Associates - 18 Carat Love Affair/Love Hangover 36. (61) Mari Wilson - Just What I Always Wanted 37. (25) Gary Numan - White Boys And Heroes 38. (37) Showaddywaddy - Who Put The Bomp (In The Bompa-A-Bomp-A-Bomp) 39. (32) Wavelength - Hurry Home 40. (New) Fat Larry's Band - Zoom The lower Top 75 positions; 41. (26) Captain Sensible - Wot 42. (30) Yazoo - Don't Go 43. (70) Sylvester With Patrick Cowley - Do Ya Wanna Funk 44. (63) Odyssey - Magic Touch 45. (47) Howard Johnson - So Fine 46. (44) Natasha - The Boom Boom Room 47. (55) Aretha Franklin - Jump To It 48. (35) Hot Chocolate - It Started With A Kiss 49. (72) Journey - Who's Crying Now 50. (42) Rush - New World Man 51. (50) Gillan - Living For The City 52. (69) Michael Schenker Group - Dancer 53. (48) Frida - I Know There's Something Going On 54. (75) The Sugarhill Gang - The Lover In You 55. (52) The Steve Miller Band - Keeps Me Wondering Why 56. (75) Dennis Brown - Halfway Up, Halfway Down 57. (62) Billy Fury - Love Or Money 58. (68) Billy Idol - Hot In The City 59. (New) Dollar - Give Me Some Kinda Magic 60. (54) Fashion - Love Shadow 61. (39) The Stranglers - Strange Little Girl 62. (New) Pinkees - Danger Games 63. (64) Tygers Of Pan Tang - Paris By Air 64. (New) The Beat - Jeanette 65. (58) Irene Cara - Out Here On My Own Tonight 66. (New) Culture Club - Do You Really Want To Hurt Me? 67. (67) Diamond Head - In The Heat Of The Night 68. (New) CaVa CaVa - Where's Romeo? 69. (49) Pete Townshend - Uniforms (Corps D'Esprit) 70. (New) The Animals - House Of The Rising Sun {1982} 71. (34) The Fun Boy Three - Summertime 72. (36) Donna Summer - Love Is In Control (Finger On The Trigger) 73. (New) Stiff Little Fingers - Bits Of Kids 74. (New) Asia - Only Time Will Tell 75. (45) Kid Creole And The Coconuts - Stool Pigeon Summary 11 New entries. 25 Up. 34 Down. 5 Non movers. Longest song in chart Come On Eileen by Dexy's Midnight Runners - 11 weeks. |
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No this was Dave Bickler, who left before Burning Heart. Then re-joined. Then left. Then.....
The lead singer of Burning Heart, Jimi someone, passed away a couple of years ago. SORRY -just realised someone else posted this. At least we said the same thing!
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Who is your favourite Beatle?
Me, After years and years of veering towards Paul McCartney (but still being extremely fond of Lennon) my simple answer is George Harrison. I never took much notice of Harrison until he died in 2001. For some reason, his death really affected me, more so than Lennons in 1980, and I borrowed a load his albums from our local library. Through doing that and checking my computer, I found that he was responsible for Here Comes the Sun, Something, I Me Mine, If I Needed Someone, Taxman, While my Guitar Gently Weeps, amongst others. Apparently, much of All Things Must Pass, was intended for the Beatles overall, but because of the split, went onto his solo work instead. Sorry for all the questions but I promise that this is the last one, - do you listen to Late Junction on Radio 3 by any chance. I think if you have a preference for something you're just likely to like more of it, and are more indulgent to pretty good but not necessarily amazing songs. Maybe that's the main difference. As well as it being the kind of go-to music when you want some immediate gratification. But sticking to one or a very few things can get less interesting eventually and some I think need more variety to make things fresh again. Over time some people's musical palates can become more diverse. But most will start off with whatever pop was around when they were young as that's what gets the promotion. Radio now I don't bother with and haven't for years. There's plenty of resources to explore independently now, and you mentioned two (youtube and spotify). Never was it better for anyone to explore and expand their taste in music. |
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Over time some people's musical palates can become more diverse. But most will start off with whatever pop was around when they were young as that's what gets the promotion.
Radio now I don't bother with and haven't for years. There's plenty of resources to explore independently now, and you mentioned two (youtube and spotify). Never was it better for anyone to explore and expand their taste in music. I must admit, apart from listening to my older brother & sister's records whilst growing up, radio played an important part of learning about & exploring music for me. I would say about 70% of my musical knowledge came from the radio. Unfortunately we don't have the great music shows to go with it, that we did back in the 70s & 80s such as TOTP (obviously), The Tube, Whistle Test etc, which were also really informative. |
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I forgot to ask the other night, after seeing Frida being interviewed by Simes; but was it around this time in 1982 that ABBA appeared on the 'Late Late Breakfast Show' saying the famous words they weren't going to split!!?
- I think that may well have been their very last interview in the UK!!
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I forgot to ask the other night, after seeing Frida being interviewed by Simes; but was it around this time in 1982 that ABBA appeared on the 'Late Late Breakfast Show' saying the famous words they weren't going to split!!?
- I think that may well have been their very last interview in the UK!!As for Frida not appearing on TOTP - CBS should have done their job properly and got her over to the UK sooner, when her single was eligible to be featured … clearly promoting her was not a priority for them in 1982. |
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Of course she went off with another man. Have you seen his jumper?
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I think so, too - and I was struck also by Frida insisting the group hadn't split, when that's exactly what they had done … was this a public statement designed to prevent any 'ABBA SPLIT' headlines, or was it the group (or certain members) keeping their options open?
. I remember Agnetha or possibly Bjorn saying years later in an interview, that when they split, the public didn't really know anything about it until after the divorces, so even when they were all having difficulties privately, they still kept up the glossy 'two happy couples' Abba image for the public. |
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I think if you have a preference for something you're just likely to like more of it, and are more indulgent to pretty good but not necessarily amazing songs. Maybe that's the main difference. As well as it being the kind of go-to music when you want some immediate gratification.
But sticking to one or a very few things can get less interesting eventually and some I think need more variety to make things fresh again. Over time some people's musical palates can become more diverse. But most will start off with whatever pop was around when they were young as that's what gets the promotion. Radio now I don't bother with and haven't for years. There's plenty of resources to explore independently now, and you mentioned two (youtube and spotify). Never was it better for anyone to explore and expand their taste in music. |
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And then Martin Fry stole his trench coat!
The discussion around people's preferred Beatle has reminded me of Alan Partridge's opinion: "Wings. The band the Beatles could have been".
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I did notice both Paul Weller and Martin Fry had similar coats! It must have been a fashion item in 1982 for gents who were unlucky in love.
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I did notice both Paul Weller and Martin Fry had similar coats! It must have been a fashion item in 1982 for gents who were unlucky in love.
The discussion around people's preferred Beatle has reminded me of Alan Partridge's opinion: "Wings. The band the Beatles could have been". ![]() |
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Add his duet with Charlene (of I've Never Been to Me fame) called "Used to Be" to that list....
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We've had a Lion and a Tiger at No1 during 1982.
![]() http://static2.comicvine.com/uploads...tigerann82.jpg Along with pop music and football, I was a comic-nerd in '82! |
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The reason for little of Harrison's output being used was John's antipathy towards him in the later years. He would not turn up for recordings of Harrison songs from about '67 onwards. There are several hypotheses for this, but it is generally thought that John felt outflanked on all sides at the time - Paul was a better and more prolific writer and singer and the new burgeoning talent of George made him feel like a stranger in 'his band.'
If you want two instances of Ringo's absolute mastery of drumming listen to 'Rain' and 'She Said She Said' I also saw a documentary about Harry Nilson, which kind of said that he was very friendly with Lennon about 1972, but that both of them were off their tits on the hardest drugs imaginable (sorry again ) , which created some paranoia in Lennons mind about this and that.When I was a teenager, I went with Lennons Peace and love mantra, but when I hit my twenties, I did get a little bored with it, and started to question the hate stories that were being put out about Paul McCartney. McCartney is no saint, but I do not think that he deserves the hatred that some Lennon Beatle fans throw at him - these people do not reflect the peace and love that John preached to all. It is nice nowadays to meet a Beatles fan, who craps on about John was great this and that and how he was set up in the last few years. When you say that you do not really give a toss about JL and actually think that GH was the greatest Beatle, their eyes mist over a little and they become a little confused. Guerilla warfare on my part, may be one description for it. ![]() And yes, Ringo was not a bad drummer at all. Not brilliant, to be fair, bur certainly held his own within the Beatles, which is something I would certainly put on my own CV.
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There are quite a few "observers" (is that the right word) from that period who say that for all of Lennons pronouncements about peace and sharing stuff, he was not the best at acting out what he preached. Last year I listened to an Archive Hour programme about the last few days of Lennons life, where he was still preaching peace, but was surrounded by a cupla bodyguards sporting heavy artillery type firearms to keep him safe. It is sad that even though he had this type of protection, he was still shot dead, in the end.
I also saw a documentary about Harry Nilson, which kind of said that he was very friendly with Lennon about 1972, but that both of them were off their tits on the hardest drugs imaginable (sorry again ) , which created some paranoia in Lennons mind about this and that.When I was a teenager, I went with Lennons Peace and love mantra, but when I hit my twenties, I did get a little bored with it, and started to question the hate stories that were being put out about Paul McCartney. McCartney is no saint, but I do not think that he deserves the hatred that some Lennon Beatle fans throw at him - these people do not reflect the peace and love that John preached to all. It is nice nowadays to meet a Beatles fan, who craps on about John was great this and that and how he was set up in the last few years. When you say that you do not really give a toss about JL and actually think that GH was the greatest Beatle, their eyes mist over a little and they become a little confused. Guerilla warfare on my part, may be one description for it. ![]() And yes, Ringo was not a bad drummer at all. Not brilliant, to be fair, bur certainly held his own within the Beatles, which is something I would certainly put on my own CV. ![]() . It might be apocryphal but it always make me giggle.Thank you for standing up to the racist nonsense on here. Lately it's turned into a cliquish, back slapping Rotary Club where any diversity is looked upon with great suspicion and scorn and derision are poured on anyone with a differing view.
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Who is your favourite Beatle?
After years and years of veering towards Paul McCartney (but still being extremely fond of Lennon) my simple answer is George Harrison. From '84-ish till when I saw the 'Living In The Material World' film, I was firmly in the Lennon-camp, but since then George has been my favourite. As I've got older, I've found his more spiritual take on the world more appealing. George would've been my age in 1990, so I should be going through a Travelling Willburys phase! |
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- I think that may well have been their very last interview in the UK!!
