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Old 30-11-2016, 07:27
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Another thumbs up here. Although not a big DS fan (Dire Straits not Digital Spy obviously) I loved Private Investigations. Yes it does go on a bit but it is a single where you need to hear the full version to appreciate it and not the ridiculous snippet we heard on last week's Pops. File with Bohemian Rhapsody and Paranoid Android.
The album "Love Over Gold" is one of my favourites, despite the fact that it only has five tracks! Private Investigations is by no means the longest-the opening track, Telegraph Road, is 14 minutes of heaven!
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Old 30-11-2016, 07:37
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Could Sarah Greene really have blocked the Mike Smith episodes?
Sorry if I'm being thick and/or have missed something, but please can someone explain exactly why the Mike Smith editions might not be shown? Is it just because he blocked repeats on UK Gold?
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Old 30-11-2016, 08:11
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So it seems the 4/11/82 is not being shown. Confirmed by the official BBC Four listings. I hope they have got a good reason not to show it and are not simply missing out an episode because they are trying to cram all the episodes in before the end of the year. The Wham debut is a crucial episode and I'm hoping they repeated the same performance.
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W-T-F !!!!!!?? Please don't tell me they're now going to cut out all of Mike Smith's episodes AS WELL AS the Jimmy Savile episodes AS WELL AS the DLT episodes?!!!

Why don't they just save time & pull the plug on the whole lot!!!!

And never mind Wham! Blancmange 'Living on the Ceiling' is on the same episode too!!
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Old 30-11-2016, 09:39
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Sorry if I'm being thick and/or have missed something, but please can someone explain exactly why the Mike Smith editions might not be shown? Is it just because he blocked repeats on UK Gold?
We will know tomorrow anyway because thats when the Radio Times for the 10-16 December comes out and if the episode that was mentioned as his first episode is on it will be on Friday the 16th since the thursday is a Sky at night.
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Old 30-11-2016, 09:58
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W-T-F !!!!!!?? Please don't tell me they're now going to cut out all of Mike Smith's episodes AS WELL AS the Jimmy Savile episodes AS WELL AS the DLT episodes?!!!
Unfortunately, it is looking rather ominous. If we do indeed lose all of Mike's episodes, then, in addition to the other two presenters, I reckon that leaves the following numbers of episodes available to show for each year:

1983 36
1984 38 (DLT and JS both step down as presenters this year)
1985 36
1986 36
1987 37
1988 49 (Mike stepped down as a presenter at the end of March)

So although extremely disappointing, no year is worse than 1978 (35 episodes shown) or 1979 (34 episodes shown). Hopefully they will continue showing two years each year, as I'm sure no one wants to go back to not having an episode one week every month, and having a long summer break as well!
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Old 30-11-2016, 10:10
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And then Martin Fry stole his trench coat!
It's alright. Mark Knopfler's on the case.

He'll whisper his findings in due course.

Cloudbusting was her final encore at the Apollo gigs in September 2014. To be standing 8 rows from the front waving my arms and shouting "Yay ey o" was one of the best experiences of my life!


*silent open mouth to intimate total all out jealousy*
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Old 30-11-2016, 10:15
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Indeed 'Walking on Sunshine' took and re-played all the best bets of D-Train's 'You're the One For Me' & 'Keep On' over a song written by Eddy Grant (Jeez, he must have got a lot of royalties in 82) and some clever Arthur Baker production techniques and you have the best selling dance single of the year! Although I like it, it's not in my favourites of the year, that has to go to aforementioned D-Train singles, Sharon Brown's 'I Specialise In Love' and the brilliant 'Do It To The Music' by Raw Silk
BIB - I never understood why that track wasn't a bigger hit. It barely scraped into the Top 40, yet should have been Top 20 at least.

See also Vicky D's 'This Beat Is Mine', which just missed a Top 40 place in 1982 (and has echoes of Evelyn King's 'I'm In Love' about it).
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Old 30-11-2016, 10:21
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W-T-F !!!!!!?? Please don't tell me they're now going to cut out all of Mike Smith's episodes AS WELL AS the Jimmy Savile episodes AS WELL AS the DLT episodes?!!!

Why don't they just save time & pull the plug on the whole lot!!!!

And never mind Wham! Blancmange 'Living on the Ceiling' is on the same episode too!!
I don't think Sarah Greene actually has the power to ban all his episodes from being shown like they did on U.K. Gold. The rules have changed since then and the BBC can show what they like, after all we got through all of Noel Edmonds episodes which i doubt he was too pleased about.
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Old 30-11-2016, 10:32
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I don't think Sarah Greene actually has the power to ban all his episodes from being shown like they did on U.K. Gold. The rules have changed since then and the BBC can show what they like, after all we got through all of Noel Edmonds episodes which i doubt he was too pleased about.
Indeed, Rodney Bewes always used to claim that James Bolam was blocking repeats of Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads, however this never rang true since the series has in fact been repeated many times in recent years, not to mention released on DVD.
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Old 30-11-2016, 13:33
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Indeed, Rodney Bewes always used to claim that James Bolam was blocking repeats of Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads, however this never rang true since the series has in fact been repeated many times in recent years, not to mention released on DVD.
I have met Bewes and to be honest he is rather lugubrious.
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Old 30-11-2016, 15:14
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I have met Bewes and to be honest he is rather lugubrious.
His character in The Likely Lads was a bit like that too! I read his biography once & apparently he was very Ill during a lot of his childhood. It's such a shame he & James Bolam fell out.
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Old 30-11-2016, 15:28
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His character in The Likely Lads was a bit like that too! I read his biography once & apparently he was very Ill during a lot of his childhood. It's such a shame he & James Bolam fell out.
Yes, The Likely Lads is my favourite comedy of all time.
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Old 30-11-2016, 15:28
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DJs don't have the power to block episodes but artists or copyright holders perhaps have, Dave Clark 5 'Everybody Get Together ' from February 1970 has been blocked for decades and even German TV couldn't show it in the reruns of Hits A Gogo which exists in their archives as a TOTP insert.
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Old 30-11-2016, 15:33
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DJs don't have the power to block episodes but artists or copyright holders perhaps have, Dave Clark 5 'Everybody Get Together ' from February 1970 has been blocked for decades and even German TV couldn't show it in the reruns of Hits A Gogo which exists in their archives as a TOTP insert.
If that is the case, what is the problem?
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Old 30-11-2016, 15:34
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We will know tomorrow anyway because thats when the Radio Times for the 10-16 December comes out and if the episode that was mentioned as his first episode is on it will be on Friday the 16th since the thursday is a Sky at night.
The listings for that week have already been released and indeed confirm that that TOTP ep won't be shown. By this time next week we should know whether or not his 6th Jan ep will be.
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Old 30-11-2016, 15:49
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We will know tomorrow anyway because thats when the Radio Times for the 10-16 December comes out and if the episode that was mentioned as his first episode is on it will be on Friday the 16th since the thursday is a Sky at night.
It looks as though Kid Jensen from the 11th November will be shown on 16th December. Following on from that, the rest of the episodes are provisionally scheduled as follows:

Thursday 22nd December 7.00 (18th November)
Friday 23rd December 7.00 (2nd December)
Wednesday 28th December 7.00 & 7.30 (9th & 23rd December)

We'll be very busy over the festive period if all the Yewtrees appear online as well.
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:02
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It looks as though Kid Jensen from the 11th November will be shown on 16th December. Following on from that, the rest of the episodes are provisionally scheduled as follows:

Thursday 22nd December 7.00 (18th November)
Friday 23rd December 7.00 (2nd December)
Wednesday 28th December 7.00 & 7.30 (9th & 23rd December)

We'll be very busy over the festive period if all the Yewtrees appear online as well.
Those should be confirmed listings now I would think. Listings were finalised for publication yesterday afternoon. I wonder if that suggests The Story Of 1983 will be Fri 30th Dec. EDIT Thinking about it: The Story Of 1981 was 8th Jan so who knows.
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:58
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Ursula has mentioned that we should not give up on radio quite yet

I think that you can waste a lot of you life listening to cac just on the offchance of hearing something you might like a little. That is why I have spent a little more money on equipment, just to listen to what I want to listen to, not what some radio programmer thinks I should listen to.

But ultimately, radio is all about other people trying to sell you music which "they think that you should like"
They may sometimes be more independent than that, but ultimately it still is only a few people's recommendations. And on the internet you could look at hundreds of people's recommendations, making the old days when you had to rely on the taste of a few informed people just redundant now. Many many more people are informed. People can even become quite informed themselves. Of course it depends on how much time someone has and how dedicated they wish to be in exploring something. But unless someone isn't that bothered I don't see that much point in waiting for some songs to finish on a radio show. I can explore as I want when I want, concentrating on a particular style even so I can judge it better, and can move on from song to song as I wish.
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Old 30-11-2016, 17:06
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18 Nov 82 and 2 Dec 82 are back-to-back from 7pm on 23rd Dec -- doesn't seem to be any TOTP on 22nd Dec

Looks like 9 Dec 82 and 23 Dec 82 are on 30th Dec.

Still waiting for the confirmed listings.

It looks as though Kid Jensen from the 11th November will be shown on 16th December. Following on from that, the rest of the episodes are provisionally scheduled as follows:

Thursday 22nd December 7.00 (18th November)
Friday 23rd December 7.00 (2nd December)
Wednesday 28th December 7.00 & 7.30 (9th & 23rd December)

We'll be very busy over the festive period if all the Yewtrees appear online as well.
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Old 30-11-2016, 18:20
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His character in The Likely Lads was a bit like that too! I read his biography once & apparently he was very Ill during a lot of his childhood. It's such a shame he & James Bolam fell out.
I think a lot of the ill feeling came from the fact that Bolam went onto other things quite easily, both comedic and straight whereas he was given nothing. Bewes thought of himself as an 'actor' from what I can see, and Bolam was a lad enjoying himself, but did turn out to be an actual actor.

Strangely, the 'word' from TV people I know is that Bolam was not the nicest person in the world either.
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Old 30-11-2016, 18:43
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Although individuals can't block programmes from being shown, perhaps Mike Smith's family have requested that his episodes not be shown, and the BBC have agreed as an act of courtesy?
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Old 30-11-2016, 18:52
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18 Nov 82 and 2 Dec 82 are back-to-back from 7pm on 23rd Dec -- doesn't seem to be any TOTP on 22nd Dec

Looks like 9 Dec 82 and 23 Dec 82 are on 30th Dec.

Still waiting for the confirmed listings.
so at this rate could we be heading to 1983 by jan?
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Old 30-11-2016, 18:59
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Ramraider, you are spot on! Shalamar's 'Friends' is a stunningly good album, one of my soul highlights of 82 along with Aretha's 'Jump To It' & Patrice Rushen's 'Straight From the Heart'. That groove ballad you mention 'Help Me' is a gem, that impeccable gorgeous SOLAR (Sound of Los Angeles) production and those sweeping strings really make it something special & Howard Hewett's sweet vocals! 'Looking forward to seeing the band themselves in the studio soon
I have to say Groovester I love your taste in music - but with a name like Groovester I always was.
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Old 30-11-2016, 19:07
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Although individuals can't block programmes from being shown, perhaps Mike Smith's family have requested that his episodes not be shown, and the BBC have agreed as an act of courtesy?
That's good enough for me.
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Old 30-11-2016, 19:12
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Although individuals can't block programmes from being shown, perhaps Mike Smith's family have requested that his episodes not be shown, and the BBC have agreed as an act of courtesy?
Not being funny - but what would be so awful about him hosting episodes of TOTP?

It's not like he's being portrayed in a bad light or anything - he was doing a job he presumably must have liked at the time (otherwise he wouldn't've carried on), and for which he was well paid.

I think we need some kind of official answer on this. Plus if we are losing his editions, can't we please have a compilation of the performances we'll miss? I know this is potentially contentious with the Yewtree'd editions because of people appearing in the audience, but I can't for the life of me fathom why this would be so problematic in this instance.
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